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Canada's Economy Is Slowing Down - Unemployment Rate Is Up - Carney Promises Austerity on the People

WyattEarp

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Mark Carney does not have enough chips to cash in
here is the cold hard truth of the matter
perhaps you may consider waking up to the reality



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Mark Carney misrepresented himself to the Canadian electorate as the man to stand up against Trump
instead he has waived the white flag and Canada is slipping into what might be a very nasty recession

recessions are not very kind to the incumbent politicians

Mark Carney's legacy will be that of someone who misrepresented himself to gain power and then failed miserably
Imagine the tremendous opportunity for Canada to expand the negligible trade with Italy.

Always think of trade in terms of balance accounting. Every trade surplus has to be balanced by a trade deficit somewhere else.
 

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....and then PP will guide us to the promised land?
reversing the insanity of damaging liberal policies' is required

You're an idiot.
look in the mirror for the idiot
Carney has compromised and moved to the right, but you still predict failure.
yes failure- what part of "slipping into a nasty recession" is beyond your comprehension ?

he is still going to push the insane EV mandates , net zero stupidity and will never permit building of the pipelines required-all failures


Carney is standing up to Trump, but not in the stupid way of verbal warfare, but in the smooth, quiet , level headed way of non-confrontational behind the scenes action.
Carney caved , elbows down ass up
 

JohnLarue

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Larue likes to blow methane.We have to be fair with him, he says that he's not a fan of The King of Kings.
i would have preferred Trump had not run
The deal was sealed when the cackling fool was anointed for the democrats

He made my point Canada cannot afford to be dependent on the USA. Carney has been negotiating deals to diversify our economy since before he became Prime Minister.
you really do not understand
diversify our economy has been an objective since confederation

but here is the reality

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He could stumble with austerity. It's wasn't good medicine for the UK with riots and Brexit as the outcome. There will be a very important visitor coming to Canada soon.
good luck watching him failing to control costs
it costs big $ to reduce govt headcount - severance

the moron Trudeau left carney a god damn mess - he will fall for sure and Canada will pay the price
 

WyattEarp

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Where is your proof? Larue don't confuse Marc Carney with Mark Zuckerberg, ass up indeed.

If Canada can ship LNG to Germany to replace any reliance on Russia going forward, it would be a win for Canada and NATO.

The problem is a few years after the Ukrainian war Germany will be looking for the best deal.
 
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WyattEarp

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Larue do you enjoy eating chimichangas?

How does this trade deal work in practice?
Norway is an energy powerhouse.

Before the tariff dust-up, people here generally realized these headline trade deals were often times PR moves for the leaders involved.

You don't want to get caught up with what you see on the internet. There is a lot of junk news on YouTube and Twitter.
You can pretty much find someone packaging and propagandizing news that appeals to you.
 

Butler1000

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You're being dramatic. It's been a month.
Trump is not the first to fudge numbers. However as always he is the first to do it so blatantly. Again it's about how different nations report the rates, how they are calculated. The US govt stops counting those who stop looking. It makes a difference. As well they use different metrics for under employment.

All I see are numerous announcements of layoffs. And several other indicators. Rent defaults are up 2% year over year. Loan defaults are up. Student loans are going to be a huge issue. Car loan defaults are up. Increased credit card debt. Increased use of debt to buy groceries.

These are far better signposts than anything the Fed has to say.
 
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Butler1000

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You're manipulating the chart to suit your argument.

When I saw your post that you were 18th and the U.S. was 10th, I thought what are we are doing seeding a tennis tournament.

To understand country productivity comparisons, you need to focus on the G-7 or the G-20 countries. I would focus on the productivity metric and not the ranking. Europe has had slowing productivity growth for several years. Running with a slow pack is frankly just being slow.
I don't. I see a nation that is still a top tier nation. And one btw that has woken up now. Watch as we start to add things and reduce our trade with the USA.
 

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Insidious Von

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And stop posting propaganda pieces.

It's either verified sources or don't spam.
Interesting, only MAGA is allowed to spam. Des Riccardo why are you accepting data from the CBC, don't you want it eliminated? Maple MAGAs are such hypocrites.

 

WyattEarp

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Trump is not the first to fudge numbers. However as always he is the first to do it so blatantly. Again it's about how different nations report the rates, how they are calculated. The US govt stops counting those who stop looking. It makes a difference. As well they use different metrics for under employment.

All I see are numerous announcements of layoffs. And several other indicators. Rent defaults are up 2% year over year. Loan defaults are up. Student loans are going to be a huge issue. Car loan defaults are up. Increased credit card debt. Increased use of debt to buy groceries.

These are far better signposts than anything the Fed has to say.
Butler, you are not the first one to try to send people into a panic regarding a cyclical recession. When the Fed starts to drop rates this month, I'm guessing it will be a quick march down to levels that stimulate not just the economy, but the global economy.

BTW, global recessions are a fairly normal phenomenon.

PS- If you want to keep your eye on something globally, keep your eye on China. Don't follow the "official" CCP numbers. Follow reliable third party sources who analyze other data to back into the true performance of the Chinese economy.
 

WyattEarp

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Interesting, only MAGA is allowed to spam. Des Riccardo why are you accepting data from the CBC, don't you want it eliminated? Maple MAGAs are such hypocrites.

What do you think Carney and Merz had for dinner in Berlin.
I'm wondering if the Chancellor serves German food.
Do you suppose it could have been French or Italian?
 

DesRicardo

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Interesting, only MAGA is allowed to spam. Des Riccardo why are you accepting data from the CBC, don't you want it eliminated? Maple MAGAs are such hypocrites.

You're drunk and not even making sense. Just admit you have a problem.

Did Canada have a 66K job loss in August?
 

Butler1000

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Butler, you are not the first one to try to send people into a panic regarding a cyclical recession. When the Fed starts to drop rates this month, I'm guessing it will be a quick march down to levels that stimulate not just the economy, but the global economy.

BTW, global recessions are a fairly normal phenomenon.

PS- If you want to keep your eye on something globally, keep your eye on China. Don't follow the "official" CCP numbers. Follow reliable third party sources who analyze other data to back into the true performance of the Chinese economy.
Oh, I absolutely don't trust the CPP. Hell I don't even trust their population numbers, let alone any economic forecasts.

I agree there is a cyclical recession. I called it happening this year. What I find though is the present US admin is denying it. At least Carney has stated it's going to get worse. And is preparing to help things while working on long term policy.

Trump is cutting jobs, social services funding, tariffs are in reality a sales tax that will affect lower income brackets. It's going to be far uglier when it really hits by next summer.
 
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WyattEarp

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I don't. I see a nation that is still a top tier nation. And one btw that has woken up now. Watch as we start to add things and reduce our trade with the USA.
Canada's productivity number outside natural resources might be anemic in more ways.

You see Norway with a supercharged productivity number on the posted chart. That's obviously because of the enormous Norwegian energy production. That's a lot of value-add per capita.

So you take the Canadian economy that is around 20% natural resources and that adds significant value-add per capita. Obviously, not as much value-add per capita as tiny Norway's natural resources.
 
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WyattEarp

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I agree there is a cyclical recession. I called it happening this year.
If you did, that makes two of us. Why don't you tell squeeze that?

What I find though is the present US admin is denying it. At least Carney has stated it's going to get worse. And is preparing to help things while working on long term policy.
All U.S. Administrations downplay recessions. I'm guessing Canadian Administrations generally do to.

Carney as the new PM is managing expectations. He can blame Trump.

Trump is cutting jobs, social services funding, tariffs are in reality a sales tax that will affect lower income brackets. It's going to be far uglier when it really hits by next summer.
Very true, but I have not seen a drop in the U.S. fiscal deficit. So fiscal policy is relatively neutral to date.

I mentioned the Fed cutting interest rates which is a big and fast stimulus. Also, Trump's recent tax policies for business investment and R&D are stimulative.

The U.S. is an enormous and diversified economy. There are many levers that impact its performance. Looking at one or two factors often doesn't give you a sense of the big picture.

The bigger issue is how fast is AI impacting the labor market. No Administration can or should hold back technological advancement. It could be a painful but worthwhile transition.
 
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