Canada lets murderers off too easy

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NO KIDDING! :mad:

The worst is they are sent back into society so they can re-offend upon the unsuspecting public!
 
I agree seems many sentences are too light but then crime isn't as bad and as violent compare to the USA :confused:

Murder is murder but take like in the USA last winter near Chicago..man robs a store 9am or so and shoots and kills 5 women who happen to be in the store as he rob it (he was never caught either)..crimes like that seem not to happen in Canada.

Its like when one side gets tough, the other side does too....that guy robbing the store knew he be locked up "forever" if caught, so he killed all the witnesses to his crime.
 
a 1 player said:
The only problem with our justice system is that it is not just.
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This is precisely the reason I personally refuse to call it a "justice system". Very little if any justice is rarely served. :mad:

Our legal system is geared towards the rights of the accused instead of the rights of the victims. It should instead be geared towards making the accused responsible for the harm they have caused.

Just my nickels worth.
 
The answer is simple but too polically incorrect. The Paul Bernardos and Karla Homolkas of the world should be hung. And while we are at it, bring back the strap or the cane like in Singapore for violent crimes.
 
superman said:
these guys have been charged many times and keep getting released and then murdered 2 more pppl and will be released in 5 years again
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The case of the bar owner is very tragic. The other guy who was murdered, its less clear, as no background is given to the case. But you'll have to fill me in. Why do you say they will be released in 5 years. The one guy, Abdi Omar Mohamed, received 2 life sentences. How do you figure he will be out in 5 years? I realize that he could be released on parole, but I believe that 2 life sentences would make release in 5 years extremely unlikely. Any lawyers care to comment?
 
im confused, all 4 killers have mohammed in their name?

Police say Peiris went after the most aggressive of the intruders, Abdi Omar Mohamed, with a metre-long pipe. When Mohamed pulled a knife, the bartender swung at him, hitting him on the second try. Mohamed then stabbed him.

"We are feeling sad, not only today, every day," said Karu, 51, yesterday. "It's lonely."

Her daughter, Roshel, 23, said tearfully her stepfather was the only dad she ever knew. "I just don't understand what provokes these people to do things like that."

Yesterday Ontario Superior Court Justice Anne Molloy sentenced Mohamed, 28, to a rare life sentence for manslaughter in the bartender's death.

Mohamed has spent more of his adult life in jail than out for a string of crimes, including uttering threats, robbery and assaults.
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Questor said:
The case of the bar owner is very tragic. The other guy who was murdered, its less clear, as no background is given to the case. But you'll have to fill me in. Why do you say they will be released in 5 years. The one guy, Abdi Omar Mohamed, received 2 life sentences. How do you figure he will be out in 5 years? I realize that he could be released on parole, but I believe that 2 life sentences would make release in 5 years extremely unlikely. Any lawyers care to comment?
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He would not be eligible for parole until serving at least 10 years of the first life sentence. No details are provided, but the judge may have imposed a higher minimum period for parole eligibility (up to 25 years).
 
two things about the legal system I wish we would change. First, actual life sentences, we need the ability to say some crimes are so horrible a person should never get out of jail. And second, repeat offenders sentences MUST increase time served much more then they do. from the two time armed robber to the 6+ time drunk driver, penalities should increase exponentially, not gradually.
 
arotkca2 said:
The answer is simple but too polically incorrect. The Paul Bernardos and Karla Homolkas of the world should be hung. And while we are at it, bring back the strap or the cane like in Singapore for violent crimes.
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Paul Bernardo is lock up and likely never will be released...as for his GF, they screwed up giving her a plea deal before seeing those tapes...both should be in prison now.

As for Singapore, screw that shit....we need no stuff going on like cranes and whips..just cause somebody might treat somebody wrong doesn't make it right to act like them.

I haven't been in prison but it can't be that great in there...if they are lock up and are a threat to nobody, no need to hang them, let them rot in prison. (the governments throw away lots of cash right now..bail outs, pork spending, whats a few more $)

I don't wanna see Canada become like the USA and have life terms for arm robbery...cause then those guys turn in to murders. (but yes, they should not be relased in 1 to 3 years either).
 
thompo69 said:
He would not be eligible for parole until serving at least 10 years of the first life sentence. No details are provided, but the judge may have imposed a higher minimum period for parole eligibility (up to 25 years).
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Thanks. So minimum 10 years before parole. This guy sounds like he might have some trouble convincing a parole board that he has reformed, given his repeat convictions. I hope he does a lot more than 10 years.

The bar owner was really stupid to go after him with a pipe. No way he deserved to die, but he put himself in a dangerous situation. It was a fatal error in judgement.
 
gramage said:
two things about the legal system I wish we would change. First, actual life sentences, we need the ability to say some crimes are so horrible a person should never get out of jail. And second, repeat offenders sentences MUST increase time served much more then they do. from the two time armed robber to the 6+ time drunk driver, penalities should increase exponentially, not gradually.
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We do have actual life sentences. A life sentence is for life, but after certain periods of time have elapsed, parole can be applied for. Depending on the circumstances, this may or may not be granted. Clifford Olson comes to mind. Also, an offender can be declared a dangerous offender, subjecting them to potentially indefinite incarceration, even if they have not been sentenced to life imprisonment.
 
Why was the murder, with a grade 8 education (can barely read) & who has never had a job, allowed into Canada in he first place?
 
JohnLarue said:
Why was the murder, with a grade 8 education (can barely read) & who has never had a job, allowed into Canada in he first place?
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How do we know when he came over? He was likely young and came with a parent.
 
arotkca2 said:
The answer is simple but too polically incorrect. The Paul Bernardos and Karla Homolkas of the world should be hung. And while we are at it, bring back the strap or the cane like in Singapore for violent crimes.
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Sweet, I like the way you think. Bernardo, Holmoka, Clifford Robert Olsen, should not only be executed, they should have done to them what they did to their victims. And any of these Judges and parole boards who let a killer off easy or let one out early, they should be held criminally repsonsible for any future crimes that scumbag commits.
 
Like I said in the Lawyers thread... They are THE ONLY reason these bastards are still alive.

Karla Homolka is out and allowed to live free among us... WHY? A LAWYER got her a sweet deal from other lawyers!

Clifford Olsen should have been put in general population, but instead is in protective custody and is getting a free education amongst ALL sorts of other perks! Why, because a lawyer got him a sweet deal from other lawyers...

Paul Bernardo... don't even get me started!

Lawyers! :mad:
 
thompo69 said:
How do we know when he came over? He was likely young and came with a parent.
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Well if that is the case how did the parents get in?
Did they bring specialized skills, tremendous wealth or the capability to enrich our society into our country?
Or is raising an illiterate, unemployable, multiple murder, their contribution to our country

I know you can not hold a parent totally responsible for actions of their child and there is a chance they are honest hard working decent people, but the apple usually does not fall that far from the tree.

I also know that there are lot of violent crimes committed by born and raised Canadians, but I am also noticing an alarming increase in number of these incidents perpetrated by people who come form other areas of the world.

Before the racist comment come flying, there are a lot of immigrants I like very much and consider to be great Canadians.
Immigration to Canada can be one our greatest strengths as we can all benefit from new culture and the addition of hard working resourceful people, most of whom respect our laws and human life.

However, it may be time to perhaps be more selective in the admissions process & more aggressive with deportation for those that do not respect the law or bring the old countries problems here
 
I doubt very much this guy will be out in five years. However on the other hand if he were out in 10 it would not surprise me. IMO he should have been sentenced to consecutive life terms min 25 yrs on each.

Having said... an even more pathetic case IMO is one I read the other day (I been looking for the link to post but can't find it) is one where a guy stab to death a woman and left her body in snowbank. He was sentenced to 30 months. Judge gave him double time credit for 14 months he had been in pre-trial custody so ends up his sentence works out to ONE day! :mad:

The victim in this case was a sex worker so I was a bit surprised it was not posted on here already... I thought this thread maybe about that... if anybody can find by all means do post.
 
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