Canada elections results 2025

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I posted he was not aligned with trump. You deny reality and call it lip service.



People like you are the reason this country has gone to shit.

Congrats.
I explicitly mentioned a few things on DEI, gender identity etc.,
What do you have to say about Pierre's responses to that?
Do you want me to post videos of his responses to see where he made the error?
 
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Frankfooter

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He’s a politician, his manner of communication is extremely important, both verbal and non-verbal. And yes, he should be able to “sell”, to persuade, and to get people to work in our interests. That is his job. That’s not any more or less “superficial” of a requirement than a good resume.

He is our front facing person. Lacking these skills would make him impotent.

(I’d argue this stuff is important for everyone tbh, but I don’t push that on people and worry about myself.)
Wait, Carney isn't a politician, he's a banker.
trump isn't a politician, he's a conman.
Pee Pee was a career politician, big pension, uses all the perks and spends more than anyone else.
 

boobtoucher

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I don’t know what was so authoritarian about Pierre to you. What do you find so threatening? That he wants to give harsher sentences to criminals? He wasn’t like Trump re. immigration or foreign policy. I genuinely never heard him suggest anything radical, ever.
Running on using the notwithstanding clause is extremely radical. That's as authoritarian as it gets.

He's saying "I don't like the rules in canada, and I can't be bothered to use parliament (which I want to control) to change them. So I will just use my AUTHORITY to DICTATE what I want."

Using the notwithstanding clause for some kind of unprecedented event is one thing. Planning on using it because you can't be arsed to actually govern is authoritarian dictator shit.
 
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JohnLarue

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Kirk, to quote Frank Zappa, the crux of the biscuit was the Ontario Tories not supporting PP. It was Stephen Harper who got Erin O'Toole ousted then lobbied for PP. Now the tables have turned, Ford holds the hammer. Michael Guglielmin unseated a Liberal Party stalwart in Greg Sorbara by almost 10K votes. If he decides to run for the Conservative Party leadership, you bet your ass Ford will support him.
RE: Erin O'Toole

nice guy , he would have been a good PM
did not get the job done
you get one kick @ the can in politics.

did you vote for Erin O'Toole ?
If not, your statement is meaningless
 
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kittykellykat

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His error was in adopting Trump adjacent positions to appeal to what he saw as a populist turn in Canada.
I don't care what Pierre believes on issues such as DEI and gender, for example. His opinion.
But when asked, he should have said said that in Canada we are inclusive and people of all gender identities and sexual orientations are protected by law, and the conservative party will continue to uphold those values.
Would have been simple enough, but he answered the question with a question saying "Do you know of more than 2 genders"?
Then he blew the crime rate in Canada out of proportion to propose a 3 strikes law, that could face constitutional challenges.
Which reminded Canadians of Trump and his violating of the American constitution as he denied due process to the people he deported.
This scared people into voting Liberal because Canadians saw this as authoritarian.
American authoritarian populism is popular on social media.
But this doesn't work in Canada.
He should have stuck to economy, housing, bringing immigration down to a reasonable level and came out swinging against Trump during the tariffs (which he didn't. he was largely invisible imo).
Which positions did you consider Trump adjacent? Real question, because I’m just not seeing it, aside from the hard on crime stuff. That’s not Trumpesque though. It’s just a generalized conservative tendency.

Was it the “populist” approach taken, rather than positions? Every thing he said he wanted to do seemed fairly innocuous to me. Like you could spin his platform as a Liberal one, nobody would be the wiser. Except for the strong anti-ecozealotry undertones hahaha
 

Frankfooter

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RE: Erin O'Toole

nice guy , he would have been a good PM
did not get the job done
you get one kick @ the can in politics.

did you vote for Erin O'Toole ?
If not, your statement is meaningless
One kick at the can?
So Pee Pee is finished?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Don't be dumbfounded.
This is what we have been saying all along.
You guys, and even Pierre, thought that the authoritarian ideals that worked in the US, would work in Canada.
This election highlighted how wrong you were with that assumption.
There is no place for far right politics in Canada and this election was a resounding rejection of the far right by Canadians
Now you're exaggerating again.
Almost half the country voted for PP.
Thats not a resounding rejection, nor is PP a far-right politician.

Vote tally so far is:

Carney 43.5% (8.3 million votes)
PP 41.4% (7.9 million votes)

Thats a difference of 400,000 votes. The country is almost evenly split.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_federal_election
 
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DesRicardo

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I explicitly mentioned a few things on DEI, gender identity etc.,
What do you have to say about Pierre's responses to that?
Do you want me to post videos of his responses to see where he made the error?
Doesn't make you maga nor doesn't mean he aligns with trump politically.

It's just a way to make him a villain and get simple minded people like you in a frenzy. Not once have you mentioned anything that really matters.

That's all that you can come up with.
 
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Frankfooter

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Which positions did you consider Trump adjacent? Real question, because I’m just not seeing it, aside from the hard on crime stuff. That’s not Trumpesque though. It’s just a generalized conservative tendency.

Was it the “populist” approach taken, rather than positions? Every thing he said he wanted to do seemed fairly innocuous to me. Like you could spin his platform as a Liberal one, nobody would be the wiser. Except for the strong anti-ecozealotry undertones hahaha
That's an entertaining question. First, because trump doesn't really have any policies other than attack minorities, implement tariffs and tax cuts to benefit the super rich and destroy democracy.

Pee Pee was clear he'd use the notwithstanding to attack rule by law here and crack down on minorites, aka 'immigrants' as well as do tax cuts for the rich.
But is Pee Pee as corrupt as Doug Ford or trump? We don't really know, except that he spent more tax money on himself and office than any other politician. Otherwise, despite a career in office he's never been able to implement once single policy or bill.

bye bye

 
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kittykellykat

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Running on using the notwithstanding clause is extremely radical. That's as authoritarian as it gets.

He's saying "I don't like the rules in canada, and I can't be bothered to use parliament (which I want to control) to change them. So I will just use my AUTHORITY to DICTATE what I want."

Using the notwithstanding clause for some kind of unprecedented event is one thing. Planning on using it because you can't be arsed to actually govern is authoritarian dictator shit.
Ah, fair. Yeeeeeah I’d say the severity of that depends on what you want to use it for. I mean, it exists for a reason. I’m not especially anti-authoritarian though (I think by nature lol) so I am probably just not as sensitive to these things.

But yeah on the notwithstanding — it’s dishonest to slippery slope PP and accuse him of wanting to just use it for anything, like abortion etc. Which is what they did to him. Carney was so casual about saying it too 😂.

“He’s going after abortion. It’s a fact. Source? Just trust me. Next question?”

That was funny to me, ngl.

I accept him though, tentatively. I don’t know much about the guy. I’m not too upset about this.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Which positions did you consider Trump adjacent?
- Framing himself as an outsider fighting the elites.
- Support for the freedom convoy.
- Double speak on issues such as DEI, gender identity and other cultural issues.
- Media antagonism where he regularly attacks the mainstream media as biased and calls to defund CBC.
- Speaking about wokeism even in parliament.
- Calling liberals "radical left", which is a Trump tactic to call the Dems "radical left".
- Even straws. Trump signed an EO against paper straws and he was talking about plastic straws.
Essentially he'd take some Trump position, water it down and present a more milquetoast version of it.
That turned out to be a mistake.
 

jalimon

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One kick at the can?
So Pee Pee is finished?
It's time for the conservator to bring a real politician with real-life experience. Carney turned around this election because of what he did in the past. Enough of Trudeau, pp and the likes...

We are not the US. We do not elect ass hole greedy prick because they 'tell things as it is...'. We Canadians are more intelligent than that.
 

boobtoucher

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it proposes far too many people in Canada
Have you priced a house recently ?
Take a step back and examine your beliefs. Capitalism requires growth. If Canada is not growing, it's dying. One of my houses is in a small town in the middle of Italy. You can get houses nearby for free. Is THAT a good future for Canada? Because that's what flat or declining poplulation growth looks like under capitalism.

Which countries in the world hold the most power? Can you chart "power on the world stage" and "population' and see if there are any correlations?

If you are pro-capitalism, you need population growth. If you are looking to maintain the population at some set number, you need a robust social safety net.

I'm sure you've only listened to youtube shorts of men talking to their cell phones while sitting in their cars, but straight form the Century Initiative:

Fiction: Century Initiative wants mass, unplanned immigration.

  • Fact: Century Initiative supports smart, gradual, and sustainable immigration growth — consistent with historical norms. We have advocated for growth rates of 1.15% to 1.25% of Canada’s population annually and emphasized the importance of aligning immigration with infrastructure, housing, and essential services. In fact, recent immigration levels have exceeded what we have recommended.
Fiction: CI has advocated for 100 million immigrants.

  • Fact: Our 100 million population vision refers to Canada's total population by 2100, not immigration numbers. It’s meant to spark national conversations about smart, responsible growth—it is not a policy target. The point is to set bold, forward-looking goals that reflect the scale of the opportunity ahead. Canada needs that kind of ambition to thrive in a changing world.
 
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Gooseifur

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Last night proved that the country is very divided, just like the U.S. I think the Libs owe a debt of gratitude to Trump for winning the election. There was no good choice last night , I think they all suck . Carney will spend just like Trudeau and likely raise taxes so we have that going for us. Canada's best days are behind them. The question is how bad is it going to get with more Liberal leadership? Time will tell
 
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boobtoucher

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Ah, fair. Yeeeeeah I’d say the severity of that depends on what you want to use it for. I mean, it exists for a reason. I’m not especially anti-authoritarian though (I think by nature lol) so I am probably just not as sensitive to these things.

But yeah on the notwithstanding — it’s dishonest to slippery slope PP and accuse him of wanting to just use it for anything, like abortion etc. Which is what they did to him. Carney was so casual about SAYINH it too 😂.

“He’s going after abortion. It’s a fact. Source? Just trust me. Next question?”

That was funny to me, ngl.

I accept him though, tentatively. I don’t know much about the guy. I’m not too upset about this.

I mean, if you know his past record on abortion (and that of the conservative party in general), you can make a reasonable assumption that he would allow a free vote on abortion issues, as the conservative party has done in the past.

"I don't want to reopen the abortion debate" and "as prime minister, I will protect a woman's right to choose, and the conservative party of canada will not vote for anti-choice measures" are 2 very different statements.
 

DesRicardo

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It's time for the conservator to bring a real politician with real-life experience. Carney turned around this election because of what he did in the past. Enough of Trudeau, pp and the likes...

We are not the US. We do not elect ass hole greedy prick because they 'tell things as it is...'. We Canadians are more intelligent than that.
Conservatives have given you every type of candidate in the past 10 years.

the truth is the left will do anything to block the CPC.
 
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squeezer

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We lived under Trudeau for years, bro was a dictator in spirit 😂. If he wasn’t such a tampon, and more of a chad like his father (the Cuban one) we may have been in trouble.

I don’t know what was so authoritarian about Pierre to you. What do you find so threatening? That he wants to give harsher sentences to criminals? He wasn’t like Trump re. immigration or foreign policy. I genuinely never heard him suggest anything radical, ever.
I guess the folks in his riding didn't think much of the man who held the seat for how long??? Enough to know him inside and out??
 
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