Can Windows 8 save the PC from extinction?

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Can Windows 8 save the PC from extinction?

By David Goldman @CNNMoneyTech September 14, 2011: 3:13 PM ET

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/14/technology/windows_8_pc/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2

ANAHEIM, Calif. (CNNMoney) -- There's no question that Microsoft got the message: Mobile devices and tablets are the future of computing. Here's the next quandary: Is Windows 8 enough to salvage the PC, or is it too late?

Love it or hate it, Microsoft made a bold bet with its radically redesigned, re-engineered Windows 8. It rejected Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) chairman Steve Jobs' declaration in March that the post-PC era has begun.

Rather than simply putting its Windows Phone software on a tablet to try to compete with the iPad, a battle all other rivals are currently losing, Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500) gambled that people want more out of their tablet experience. It believes that buyers -- including home users, not just office workers -- are still clamoring for storage, processing power, and robust content creation tools.

Yet consumers have been voting "no" with their pocketbooks. PC sales growth has tumbled in the United States and have even come to a screeching halt globally. The unstable economy has contributed significantly to that, but the iPad has also chomped away at the PC. When Hewlett-Packard (HPQ, Fortune 500) decided to exit the PC business, CEO Leo Apotheker cited as a prime reason that "the tablet effect is real."

With Windows 8, Microsoft is in a sense betting the house on form factor. The company believes that when people buy an iPad, what they really want is a PC on the go that's just not available to them yet.

"It looks like Microsoft is finally on the right track, writing the evolution of the Windows PC on its own terms," said Al Hilwa, analyst with IDC.

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Time is not on Microsoft's side. It's still very early on in the Windows 8 development cycle, with the developer preview just launched on Tuesday. Microsoft wouldn't say when Windows 8 will be ready for a test release, never mind general availability. Meanwhile, the iPad is already five months into its second-generation device.

"I think it's too early to call Windows 8 the revival of the moribund PC market," said Carl Howe, analyst with Yankee Group. "It's really easy to demo stuff that is completely unusable in real life -- see Windows Vista -- and sells poorly when the final product packaging is done -- see Windows Vista."

Laptop and desktop PCs will never die off entirely; the keyboard and big-screen form factor is ideal for desk-bound tasks.

But will users always need software like Windows and Microsoft Word to power those computers? Google's current batch of cloud-powered Chromebooks are more like proof-of-concept prototypes than actually useful devices, but they point the way toward a very different future of what "the PC" could look like.

Microsoft needs to steer the world in another direction.

It will have from now until Windows 8 hits store shelves to work on its sales pitch. Consumers have become accustomed to simplicity when using tablets. Microsoft may need to convince them that they're missing out on a fuller experience.

"Windows 8 certainly has potential to put Microsoft back in the consumer market," said Michael Silver, analyst at Gartner. "But the Microsoft offering will do more to converge PCs and tablets, which also may mean it will be more confusing for consumers to buy a Microsoft tablet."

Though a Windows 8 tablet would come with a distinct app advantage over the iPad -- there's more software written for Windows than the iPad -- even native software has taken a backseat as the Web continues to solidify itself as the most-used application on any connected device.

"I don't think Windows 8 can save the PC market," said Zeus Kerravala, analyst at Yankee Group. "The simplicity and portability of a tablet makes them ideal for what most people want to do with computers."

Still, others say that the PC, though fading, is far from dead. IPads are great complimentary devices, but the PC is the only serious content creation device on the market. With Windows 8 could be the missing bridge between the desktop and mobile worlds.

"Microsoft has in effect thrown down the gauntlet to Apple and Google (GOOG, Fortune 500)," said Laura DiDio, principal at tech consultancy ITIC. "Microsoft said, 'Not only are we still relevant but we have every intention of giving you a run for your money and users' hearts and minds."


First Published: September 14, 2011: 3:05 PM ET
 
Laptop and desktop PCs will never die off entirely; the keyboard and big-screen form factor is ideal for desk-bound tasks.

Still, others say that the PC, though fading, is far from dead. IPads are great complimentary devices, but the PC is the only serious content creation device on the market. With Windows 8 could be the missing bridge between the desktop and mobile worlds


This is me - I use my PC for serious Photoshop work.

I can see how the PC may become a niche market for people who create content. Most consumers don't create content - they just want to use Facebook to message their friends in real time, or do apps, or surf the web - those tablets and iphones are great for most consumers. Creative types may use them too, but still demand a PC for writing novels in Word, or Photoshop image work, etc. Typing a novel on a laptop or tablet? No, thanks. A paper notepad would be easier lol.
 
Still, others say that the PC, though fading, is far from dead. IPads are great complimentary devices, but the PC is the only serious content creation device on the market. With Windows 8 could be the missing bridge between the desktop and mobile worlds.

This says it all. If you want to do real work you need a PC.
Tablets are good for just dicking around....:eyebrows:
 
This says it all. If you want to do real work you need a PC.
Tablets are good for just dicking around....:eyebrows:

They said the same thing about PC's when they first came out. I'm pretty sure the same thing about the Internet.
 
You can go back further. They said the same about the first autos. Folks yelled at them, get a horse....:eyebrows:
 
PC rules...upgrade the hell out of it, keep in step with the latest technologies...yes I want USB3, SATA3, real god damn keyboard, etc...insteada carrying around some locked down mortgaged gadget only to have a fancier one come out a few months later.

Windows 8 doesn't matter...Linux & BSD will keep PC' scene runnin...even if it becomes once again like the nerd days in the mid 80's whenya had to go into little ma & pa computer shops sprinkled around town...I miss those places...all the BestBuy, CompUSA and mother fucking evil Frys shit ruined things.
 
I concur with zorlack, even apple is leaning that way with their new os. Well if newspapers are still around that should say something. I don't have the time to pick one up myself, the data is old. I"m old skool and mankind hangs on to shit for along time. Where are the aerocars etc? All of these devices can co- exists, linux rules and microshaft I wouldn't put up the house on stuff they come out with.
 
ummm. you guys read that it's only GROWTH that has slowed down or stopped? right? i could see the tablet users upgrading to notebooks with large monitors for home use. this may just be a cycle. the big towers tho? just for gamers and other high end users. most people's needs are more than satisfied by mid-level notebooks. my thought is that I need a portable device (smart-phone), a bit larger form factor (ipad), a more powerful notebook and a heavy duty i7 based desktop with room for expansion. plus NAS.
 
... and a heavy duty i7 based desktop with room for expansion.

Once you get used to the power of the i7, you won't be happy with anything slower....;)
 
.... linux rules and microshaft I wouldn't put up the house on stuff they come out with.

Moving to Linux was the BEST move I ever made!...:cool:
Don't miss M$ at all....
 
But, you can't tell the difference, not with the software that you use.
If YOU can't tell the difference YOU don't know squat!....:rolleyes:
 
You can go back further. They said the same about the first autos. Folks yelled at them, get a horse....:eyebrows:

Yeah, that idiot is you saying the tablet market is a niche.....

OTB
 
Yeah, that idiot is you saying the tablet market is a niche.....

OTB
It is!

Tablets are dominated by kids just dicking around!.....:eyebrows:
 
It's been proven over and over again that you're the one who doesn't know squat.

What do you actually use on your machine that requires an i7? From what you posted before, all you do is surf the web, email, do a bit of word processing and listen to music. An i7 won't make a difference at all in those situations.

If YOU can't tell the difference YOU don't know squat!....:rolleyes:
 
You haven't been paying attention nibs!

A common affliction suffered by many fanbois......

I had stated from the git-go the need for a PC to last like my P2 that served me well for 14 years....and still keeps on ticking. Didn't want to get a PC that would be dated in a couple years, requiring the need to get another. This i7 fit that bill, is blazing FAST and expandable and more easily upgradeable than that trusty old Gateway P2.

If you can't understand that, then YOU don't know squat and deserve being raped by Apple.

Another good reason for the i7 is multitasking which I do a lot of. Usually have 4-6 desktops running at the same time. This is very easy to do with Linux and the i7 handles this with NO strain or pain. Something not possible with less powerful PCs ......not to mention those silly underpowered but pricey iPads sooooo popular with kids and the tech challenged who gravitate to Apple, after swallowing too much Apple iJuice.....
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Multitasking is not possible with pricey iPads, which mainly are used for simply dicking around. For multitasking an i7 surely matters and again if you don't realize that YOU don't know squat and deserve being raped by Apple.
 
Actually, what you don't seem to understand is that even if you are running 4-5 desktops it's meaningless because your applications are not CPU-intensive. Plus, you've never tried an i3 or an i5 so you have no basis for comparison.
 
oh boy. i hate to get in the middle of this love-fest. sometimes i use a graphics editor to review a set of raw images, adjust and covert to jpg. i have an i5 mobile. the operation is so slow, i stopped doing it. one day i'll pick up an i7 desktop.