Depending on what you said in your texts, you might have broken the law. However, as oldjones said, from a practical point of view it is unlikely the COPS would go to the effort of tracking you down. They will get more than enough suckers who will come to them without the need to track down and try to make cases against the people who didn't show up.
Can cops arrest you if you reply to fake backpage ad?
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Trillgod, what OldJones posts, I wouldn't loose sleep over this.From a practical point of view, for the police to come after you, they not only need clear evidence that you were offering money (the consideration) and that it was for a sexual service, but they also need to hunt you down and establish no one else could have been using that phone to send that message.
Given the paperwork involved and the tactical need to send two cops and a car to get you, that seems way more expensive than us taxpayers would be willing to pay just to stop a telephone pooner making an incall appointment.
But if they'd already busted that incall because the neighbours repeatedly complained about rowdy customers ….
In almost all sting operations in Canada they are interested in one of two things: "she said she was 15, you didn't reply: do you need help? I will not be seeing you, I do not see 15 year-olds INSTEAD you said great!
Or you attempted to pick up an undercover officer Streetwalking.
I doubt she would do that because THAT deserves a negative review in every review board and would affect her business.Even worse, she can tell you "I'm paid for time and companionship only, don't ever touch me" , lol
We all hear your valid point here, but if we get a conservative government in Ontario (which isn't bad from a fiscal policy perspective), things may change.Sorry, it never has been in Ontario for a long time. You need the provincial government to enforce it and that was always missing in Ontario. I find it very tiresome your fearmongering.
Nevertheless, C-36 is still an ominous cloud to be wary of.
Thanks for highlighting this. I didn't have time to read that linked article.If you read the article:
"Between 80- to 90-per cent of those we had conversation with, once they learned they were speaking with an alleged 16-year-old, didn’t follow through any further,” Casey said. “The 10-plus per cent that did follow through with the transaction and showed up knew exactly what they were doing.”
technically they could had charge the 80-90% Johns for "normal" prostitution... they just didn't. Their focus was on the much more serious offense of under age sex offense.
I always say call the girls or ladies, They take text, but most want you to call them in the end anyway, so why not call from the start. Then nothing is on your phone. And I don't believe for a minute that cops are going to go to the trouble of tapping everyone's calls. They need a court order to listen. But if for some reason you go and it is a trap, Then you have it all on your phone, prices, asking BBBJ etc etc. That is intent to buy sex.
Call and do it the old way. I only text ladies I know such and Sweet Jamie or whoever.
You raise an important but admittedly, obvious point. I was going to say that you should phone to discuss particulars, however, I backed off thinking that if it's a sting, they will get you on tape, however, that's not necessarily true.
So it begs the question. Can the police get a court order to record random phone calls made to an undercover cop for the purpose of conducting a sting in respect of offences under C-36?
Sorry, I disagree. The law used to be quite draconian and yet people still hobbied because enforcement was never that stringent (even under Conservative government). This doesn't even address whether C-36 will survive a constitutional challenge (which I believe it will have its problem to be found constitutional). Until the climate noticeably change, and at this date there is no indication it will, I don't understand the doom and gloom voiced by people in this board.We all hear your valid point here, but if we get a conservative government in Ontario (which isn't bad from a fiscal policy perspective), things may change.
Nevertheless, C-36 is still an ominous cloud to be wary of.
Paranoid or what as I shake my head.You raise an important but admittedly, obvious point. I was going to say that you should phone to discuss particulars, however, I backed off thinking that if it's a sting, they will get you on tape, however, that's not necessarily true.
So it begs the question. Can the police get a court order to record random phone calls made to an undercover cop for the purpose of conducting a sting in respect of offences under C-36?
Not worse than C-36 (eg., outcalls & private communications are no longer 'legal')?Sorry, I disagree. The law used to be quite draconian and yet people still hobbied because enforcement was never that stringent (even under Conservative government). This doesn't even address whether C-36 will survive a constitutional challenge (which I believe it will have its problem to be found constitutional). Until the climate noticeably change, and at this date there is no indication it will, I don't understand the doom and gloom voiced by people in this board.
We aren't talking about doom and gloom here but due diligence under a different environment. If you're not risk averse, hobby as freely as you like.
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It's not paranoid to ask a legitimate question.Paranoid or what as I shake my head.
Can you answer it directly? (The answer may be obvious - 'no', but I defer to higher legal minds).
Was a minor or the girls being coerced involved? If yes that changes everything and rightly so.I can't find the link, few months ago hey shut down a massage parlour somewhere in GTA and a client found there was charged with obtaining sexual services
Lol, you are an idiot.It's not paranoid to ask a legitimate question.
Can you answer it directly? (The answer may be obvious - 'no', but I defer to higher legal minds).
Then show me the link.No there were no minors the girls were adults working of their own will
Sorry, human trafficking was involved. Look at my earlier post.Thanks this is what I was referring to
that milton place is still sitting empty. a massage parlor available for first and last months rent if any asian ladies want to do it themselves for peanuts, now is the time
(Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me)Lol, you are an idiot.
Your response doesn't answer my legitimate question, even if it's an academic one.
I repeat for others to respond (posed more accurately).
If the police are conducting an undercover sting operation and record calls made to THEIR OWN phone*, can evidence obtained when you call their undercover officer posing as an SP be admissible in court?
*My ex tried to record a conversation in a divorce proceeding against me but the volume was too low, although it was legal. So I turned the tables on her and recorded her accepting a job from someone posing as a prospective employer, and it was admissible in settling the divorce because no 3rd parties were eavesdropping on the conversation.
I would think that if it was a sting then the call would be recorded.... Then nothing is on your phone. And I don't believe for a minute that cops are going to go to the trouble of tapping everyone's calls. They need a court order to listen. But if for some reason you go and it is a trap,....
When I read his article, even with the consent of one party, it appears that it may still be inadmissible as a Charter violation.I would think that if it was a sting then the call would be recorded.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/content/sen/committee/371/ille/library/powers-e.htm
I always say call the girls or ladies, They take text, but most want you to call them in the end anyway, so why not call from the start. Then nothing is on your phone. And I don't believe for a minute that cops are going to go to the trouble of tapping everyone's calls. They need a court order to listen. But if for some reason you go and it is a trap, Then you have it all on your phone, prices, asking BBBJ etc etc. That is intent to buy sex.
Call and do it the old way. I only text ladies I know such and Sweet Jamie or whoever.
Apparently, they need a warrant to retrieve your text messages from your cell phone provider.
They don't need a warrant if there's a case involving immediate harm to an individual or national security.
Furthermore, if you are arrested, they can search through your phone without a warrant, UNLESS you password protect it. If password protected, then they need a search warrant.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/what-powers-do-police-have-for-online-surveillance-1.1333667
This entire thread is paranoia at it's finest
Even if you txt a cop, they can't get you
It is quite difficult to get a cell co to divulge your details (and that's even assuming they have it, could be a prepay phone, what then, trace you?)
If it was a sting they would wait for you to go to them
Even if you txt a cop, they can't get you
It is quite difficult to get a cell co to divulge your details (and that's even assuming they have it, could be a prepay phone, what then, trace you?)
If it was a sting they would wait for you to go to them
