C. Ronaldo - Portugal - franky66 - read this article

[Cobster]

Here's one of the reasons, I can't stand Ronaldo.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...&headline=ron-was-in-the-wrong-name_page.html
Also, one of the reasons, he was overlooked and not given the "Best Young Player" award at the World Cup
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28749-2261035,00.html
He's a cocksucker sack of shit, typical.

edit - My Portuguese buddy showed me this site, thought I'd add it
http://www.ihateronaldo.com/
fyi, my buddy isn't a big fan of him either.

 

[SPQR]

Ronaldo reminds me of school in the summer time. No class.

 

[luckyjackson]

That is too funny. Oh boo hoo..."I wouldn't have done what Ronaldo did...maybe we're penalized for being too strong" What a load of b.s. Let me hold up the truth about these two-faced bigots. Shame on them and the English press for playing on prejudice and bigotry to draw attention away from their inability to win.

Let's disregard the obvious for a moment...that the ref was on the spot and that it was Rooney grabbing onto Carvalho's thigh, (before he went down), hoping to draw the foul, and that immediately after the game and since, the ref consistently said Rooney got the red card for purposely stomping on Carvalho's balls, and that it had NOTHING to do with pushing Ronaldo. Let's forget all that, and let's forget that English papers have never stopped lying about the reason for the red card, and lets consider this...

1. Can anyone honestly say that Neville, Rooney, or Ferdinand would not have said a word to the ref if the situation were reversed and Ronaldo had done what Rooney did? This needn't be a controversial question, there's an easy test. Watch past, or future England games where a foreign player based in the EPL gets a card. Tell me English players never say a word to the ref. Hypocrites.

2. Ronaldo has said repeatedly that all he said to the ref was that it was a foul, he didn't ask for a red card. If he's lying, why doesn't Rooney or Hagreaves, who were both there, expose him as a liar? Why haven't either of those guys, or the ref for that matter, said, "the kid's lying, he did ask for a red card".

3. The utter hypocrisy of the English over the wink. So what if Ronaldo winked? So what if he was acknowledging that we'd just won an advantage? Do any of you think other players, including the English do not do that in the privacy of the locker room? Ronaldo was open, good for him. There is nothing wrong with what he did.

Face the truth. The English can't admit that Rooney, gifted a player though he may be, has no one to blame but himself. The players and press are ready to say anything to keep themselves and their fans from admitting they simply weren't good enough on that day, (for the third time ), to beat us.
If you're looking for lack of character, there's the most glaring example.

Forca Portugal, Forca Ronaldo. He'll be back to "torment" England plenty more.

 

[Cobster]

I disagree on when Rooney got the card.
You are watching the same video right?
The ref reacted and immediately flinched, then moved to give Rooney the card RIGHT after he shoved Ronaldo. (wow, that would be a first in Soccer, my God ).
Like the 2nd post in this thread, "no class". My buddy says it's an "island" thing.lol

 

[luckyjackson]

You're grasping at straws. Do you watch the game much? There was nothing unusual in the timing of the drawing the red card. The ref often allows the ruckus to settle down before drawing the card. Of course Rooney did his cause no good by shoving Ronaldo, but the lesson from that is that he had no business doing it. To look at the incident and blame Ronaldo for being shoved is absurd. Don't you see that?

I take it then that in your mind, it's not only Ronaldo who is lying, but also the ref, and Rooney is deciding to keep quiet about what he actually heard Ronaldo say to the ref .... for mysterious reasons?

You know what Occam's Razor is? If not, find out...and consider finding a better class of friend, one who's not a Benfiquista.

 

[Esco!]

Luckyjackson, who cares about the Rooney incident, why havent you admitted his other faux pas, which was constant and obvious diving. (see my sig).
Check out www.ihateronaldo.com for more dives.

I dont hate Ronaldo and that website takes things a bit too far but you have to admit his diving is out of control and needs to be severely punished by FIFA

 

[danmand]

Luckyjackson, who cares about the Rooney incident, why havent you admitted his other faux pas, which was constant and obvious diving. (see my sig).
Check out www.ihateronaldo.com for more dives.

I dont hate Ronaldo and that website takes things a bit too far but you have to admit his diving is out of control and needs to be severely punished by FIFA

I think, that you are overdoing this diving incident. It is preposterous to claim "constant" diving.
He showed himself as one of the most gifted players in the world cup, and a joy to watch, even if he sometimes overdid the agony.

 

[luckyjackson]

Luckyjackson, who cares about the Rooney incident, why havent you admitted his other faux pas, which was constant and obvious diving.

Maybe you're too preoccupied with the video tricks to read my posts, but I have acknowledged and bemoaned the diving repeatedly in the threads here. See my most recent post on the other thread for some hard stats on diving at this W.C.

As for the Rooney incident, you're right, I don't care about it; as in my mind there isn't the slightest controversy. The red was justified. But in case you haven't noticed, it's the subject of this thread. As long as some feel the need to distort the truth, I think it's only reasonable for me to set the record straight.

 

[Esco!]

I have acknowledged and bemoaned the diving repeatedly in the threads here

So you're admitting Ronald & Portugal are one of the worst diving teams this WC???? (if not the worst)

 

[franky66]

Here's one of the reasons, I can't stand Ronaldo.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...&headline=ron-was-in-the-wrong-name_page.html
Also, one of the reasons, he was overlooked and not given the "Best Young Player" award at the World Cup
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28749-2261035,00.html
He's a cocksucker sack of shit, typical.

edit - My Portuguese buddy showed me this site, thought I'd add it
http://www.ihateronaldo.com/
fyi, my buddy isn't a big fan of him either.

I posted this already dude. Surf and you will see

 

[luckyjackson]

Well, I've already showed they're not the worst. But yes, I did already admit that Portugal dives way too much. What's your point? Are you new to this game?

 

[Oil Please]

I cheer for England and can't stand Portugal but Rooney did stomp on the guy's balls and did deserve to be red carded for that. So if the ref tossed him for the push and missed the ball stomping , well in the end Rooney got what was owed to him. At that level of play Rooney has to have some control or he is useless. Oh and by the way how many goals did Rooney score in this World Cup?

 

[Esco!]

Well, I've already showed they're not the worst. But yes, I did already admit that Portugal dives way too much. What's your point? Are you new to this game?

My point is I just wanted to hear a Portuguese finally own up to it.

 

[luckyjackson]

No problem. I'm glad to see you're not bothered by Italy drawing top honours in the diving department.

But I can't help but notice that no one has bothered to refute the points I've so patiently made in my first post on this thread. I take it everyone agrees that the English press has been bigoted and cowardly in their reporting.

It's so nice to have a consensus.

 

[Esco!]

But I can't help but notice that no one has bothered to refute the points I've so patiently made in my first post on this thread

Rooney left his foot in against Carvalho (or whomever it was), no doubt!!!!
At that point I'd say its probably a yellow card.
Then Ronaldo starts asking for punishment (which is illegal under FIFA rules, you cannot ask for cards..etc). At that point Rooney pushes Ronaldo, and the rest is history. Was it deserving of Red?? Thats debatable, but Rooney cant do what he did and get away with it, so it was probably deserved

 

[luckyjackson]

Rooney left his foot in against Carvalho (or whomever it was), no doubt!!!!
At that point I'd say its probably a yellow card.
Then Ronaldo starts asking for punishment (which is illegal under FIFA rules, you cannot ask for cards..etc). At that point Rooney pushes Ronaldo, and the rest is history. Was it deserving of Red?? Thats debatable, but Rooney cant do what he did and get away with it, so it was probably deserved

Again, allow me to correct you. He didn't "leave" his foot in. He stomped back and into Carvalho's balls. You and I can disagree over his intention, but the ref, who was on the spot, deemed it intentional. The same ref has repeatedly stated that it was the stomping, not the shove, that got him sent off. I've now told you this a couple of times. The red card is not debatable in the least, and more to the point, Ronaldo did not ask for a card. Do you refute this, or just not understand?

By the way, thanks for your tacit acknowledgement on that Italy diving thing.

 

[Esco!]

Again, allow me to correct you. He didn't "leave" his foot in. He stomped back and into Carvalho's balls. You and I can disagree over his intention, but the ref, who was on the spot, deemed it intentional. The same ref has repeatedly stated that it was the stomping, not the shove, that got him sent off. I've now told you this a couple of times. The red card is not debatable in the least, and more to the point, Ronaldo did not ask for a card. Do you refute this, or just not understand?

By the way, thanks for your tacit acknowledgement on that Italy diving thing.

No it wasnt a stomp he had to land his foot somewhere and couldnt get it outta the way. Look at the clip the ref never got his card out for the "stomp"
Also Ronaldo is asking for either a card or punishement which is illegal under FIFA rules

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6SDBlkjb9Q&search=rooney portugal red

By the way, thanks for your tacit acknowledgement on that Italy diving thing.

I havent even begun to address that yet

 

[luckyjackson]

Like I said, we'll always disagree about his intention. The ref's actions and words agree with me, not you.

Again, if Ronaldo was asking for a card, why hasn't Rooney or the ref exposed his lie? I'll tell you why, again, since the obvious eludes you. He was simply pointing out the foul, as all players do in those situations. All three are consistent on that point, Ronaldo, the ref, and even Rooney. So unless you have knowledge you haven't shared, just admit you're in error.

havent even begun to address that yet

Yes, I know it's not easy.

 

[Esco!]

Like I said, we'll always disagree about his intention. The ref's actions and words agree with me, not you.

Then why didnt he give Rooney the Red on the spot, why wait till after the push??

Again, if Ronaldo was asking for a card, why hasn't Rooney or the ref exposed his lie?

Because the ref is a softie, he must have missed all other Ronaldo dives as well

just admit you're in error.

NEVER!!

 

[luckyjackson]

NEVER!!

...and we're the ones with character issues.

You're really reaching to insist there was anything special about the timing of the red card. It's absolutely normal for the ref to wait for the confusion to die down before following the player and showing him the card. Someone who doesn't watch the sport regularly might be confused on that point, but I was under the impression you watch during the year too. Am I wrong?