C-36 timeline
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It needs to be in place by December (what date I can't remember) according to the Supreme Court decision last year that gave them a year. If not in place, then the 3 provisions that were decided in that case will be struck down until the new law is in place. Or something like that lol
At the very earliest, the law could technically be passed the same week the senate and parliament are back from break. There probably would be a month delay for the law coming into force so mid-late October would be the absolute earliest it could be an enforceable law.
Realistically the senate stage could take a week or two before a vote by parliament which would push the law back to at least around mid November. Maybe if we are extremely lucky, the senate could propose a few amendments which would definitely drag the process out (This is quite unlikely but who knows...)
After the law is actually enforceable, it doesn't necessarily mean there will be active enforcement. This is where provincial and municipal governments will decide how aggressively they wish to enforce this and what funding they are willing to commit to this. Given the current fiscal situation, it is doubtful there is much enthusiasm for committing anything to this. Furthermore, with the exception of Manitoba I don't think any of the territorial governments were extensively consulted or gave their approval for bill C-36. When you take into consideration that criminal investigations (to close massage parlours and incalls) could cost hundreds of thousands, the thousands needed for the Attorney General to successfully convict in court, and the $100k/year to keep someone in prison - I somehow doubt the bankrupt provinces are going to care much at all and likely will just maintain the status quo.
Realistically the senate stage could take a week or two before a vote by parliament which would push the law back to at least around mid November. Maybe if we are extremely lucky, the senate could propose a few amendments which would definitely drag the process out (This is quite unlikely but who knows...)
After the law is actually enforceable, it doesn't necessarily mean there will be active enforcement. This is where provincial and municipal governments will decide how aggressively they wish to enforce this and what funding they are willing to commit to this. Given the current fiscal situation, it is doubtful there is much enthusiasm for committing anything to this. Furthermore, with the exception of Manitoba I don't think any of the territorial governments were extensively consulted or gave their approval for bill C-36. When you take into consideration that criminal investigations (to close massage parlours and incalls) could cost hundreds of thousands, the thousands needed for the Attorney General to successfully convict in court, and the $100k/year to keep someone in prison - I somehow doubt the bankrupt provinces are going to care much at all and likely will just maintain the status quo.
I've read that the government's "hand was forced" by the SCC, or that the SCC "gave the government one year to produce new legislation".
No. That's just more Conservative rhetoric and their feeble attempt to twist the wording of the SCC ruling. In actuality, it was something to the effect of: 'This ruling does not preclude Parliament on imposing limits on how and where prostitution may be conducted. If it chooses to do so, Parliament may enact new legislation.' In other words, the government could have chosen to do nothing and let the old laws fall, effectively decriminalizing the industry. That would have been the sensible thing to do, but let's not forget, we're talking about the Conservatives here...
It's the same sit back everything will be fine attitude that was taken when the Reform Party said they would be creating new laws. Everyone claiming, no worries, it can't happen, no way they won't do much....well here comes iron Harper with bill 36. Now many are saying, don't worry it won't be enforced, cops will look the other way...don't bet on it. Examples will be made, people will be charged and lives ruined before it's all said and done.
2015 is around the corner and The Reform Party needs to be decimated in the next Federal election.
2015 is around the corner and The Reform Party needs to be decimated in the next Federal election.
WHAT WORD???? They are not being consulted & by very nature do not interfere with public policy & law making
Spoiled rich kid sowed his oats liberally but is now hitched and wants to make sure the rest of us don't get laid too.
To expand on drlove's reply, the SCC suspended it's decision for 1 year to be nice to the government. They could have made their decision effective immediately, but let the old laws stand for one more year, so the gov. could prepare a new law if they decided to. This is not a deadline on when they can make a law. Just a time at which the old laws go out.
The government simply want to have the new law in place before the old ones fall. They are using it as an excuse to push the bill without proper consultation, as if they needed an excuse. In reality even if they took a couple more months to work on it it would not change anything, except that prostitution would be in a judicial vaccuum for a short while.
I received a letter from a conservative Mp I had written to and in her response she cited it was Peter MacKay's mandate to abolish prostitution. I found it infuriating coming from and educated woman who has knowledge of history. God knows it has been around since time has existed. What hubris on the part of a man to think he can change the history of mankind. What a small minded little wimp.
In Sweden where the Nordic Law has been imposed for many years, the number of men who are Johns has jumped to 10% and escorts have grown in population to what they were before the law was imposed. History of mankind will continue and Peter MacKay and his liberals cannot stop what is a natural occurrence from happening. If the law is enacted in Ontario, the indies will be a safe bet that have been around for awhile. I highly doubt it will be enacted in Ontario though with Kathleen Wynne having been persecuted herself.
The Happy Hooker movement will shoot off the same letters that are going to the Senate to her so plead our case from consensual sex trade workers and content Johns. They are very compelling and persuasive and Miss Jessica Lee and MPA squared have done a fine job in collaborating them and put a great deal of effort into into the intitiative.
In Sweden where the Nordic Law has been imposed for many years, the number of men who are Johns has jumped to 10% and escorts have grown in population to what they were before the law was imposed. History of mankind will continue and Peter MacKay and his liberals cannot stop what is a natural occurrence from happening. If the law is enacted in Ontario, the indies will be a safe bet that have been around for awhile. I highly doubt it will be enacted in Ontario though with Kathleen Wynne having been persecuted herself.
The Happy Hooker movement will shoot off the same letters that are going to the Senate to her so plead our case from consensual sex trade workers and content Johns. They are very compelling and persuasive and Miss Jessica Lee and MPA squared have done a fine job in collaborating them and put a great deal of effort into into the intitiative.
Actually, she could. From a letter of Bedford to Wynne:
''If and when the bill becomes law you can ask The Ontario Court of Appeal to render an opinion on whether it is constitutional. (...) You can also instruct crown attorneys not to lay charges under the bill, even in advance of it passing, and not to do so at least until a final court decision, possibly the Supreme Court, has ruled on whether the law, or its various parts, is constitutional.''
http://blog.terrijeanbedford.com/2014/06/25/dominatrix-writes-premier/
