Busted in States?

JeanGary Diablo

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I'm not an expert but I suspect this is how it works. I highly doubt RCMP choose case by case which gets shared but they probably have a standard (child molesting/terrorism charge = Yes, minor assault charge = No) for sharing. If you are convicted, it gets shared regardless. They're balancing the privacy rights of individuals vs security interests of the US and somewhere in the middle is an acceptable level of disclosure.

Buried in the vaults somewhere there's probably an explicit agreement between the US and Canada as to what gets shared but that will never see the light of day (and probably changes over time).
The big thing is "crimes of moral turpitude" -- murder, sexual offences, armed robbery, kidnapping and drugs offences. Convictions on those crimes ban you for life from Five Eyes Countries (Canada, the UK, USA, Australia and New Zealand) unless a waiver is granted for you to travel.

Contrary to popular belief, you're apparently allowed one and only one conviction when crossing into the USA (not sure of other countries) if the record is for a crime that is not one of "moral turpitude" but there needs to be a passage of time -- I think it's five years -- of the person keeping their nose clean. At the end of the day, it's the Customs agent you deal with who will pass judgement on whether or not to let you in.
 
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peetscoffee

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My friend isn't worried about his history in Canada. No run with law, not even a parking ticket.

Just concerned about his 2 arrests in the US for hobbying (not with a minor ofcourse). He'd like to know if the US Federal govt / US Customs would have this record, because the Charges was filed by a Municipal court, and the charge is a "Simple Misdemeanour" , the lowest level of crime, kinda like, Disorderly Conduct (caught trespassing or peeing in public).
 

jalimon

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I have not read the posts in this thread. I may be off topic.

I have been traveling frequently to the US for the last 20 years. As a canadian I am telling you these guys down south are fuckers. DO NOT engage in the hobby over there. Just DO NOT do it.

It would be crazy we have it so good here in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal! Here LE does not give a fuck. Heck they are regular clients haha (I know for a fact!).

Do your stuff in the US (work, beach, casino whatever) but keep your penis for mongering up here.
 
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Maker17882

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There is this guy named Trevor Doyle who was a radio host in Fredericton that got caught in Puerto Rico for trying to hire a minor for a BJ. Total sting operation. So sad too because he was on vacation with his wife who was sleeping at the hotel. Plead guilty because of a deal and is awaiting sentencing.

You gotta read more on this - he planned this trip as a sexual trip to have sex with a minor, the FBI ALWAYS make clear, repeatedly, the "age" of participants, he took the plea deal to get 5 - 6 years as opposed to the mandatory life sentance he was looking at (thank you for Truth In Sentancing Ronald Regan, 25 years for federal crimes is 25 years × 365 days [plus one day each year there is a leap year)]). Not sure I would have sympathy, seen this type executed in the Phillipines and Laos.
 

Maker17882

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The big thing is "crimes of moral turpitude" -- murder, sexual offences, armed robbery, kidnapping and drugs offences. Convictions on those crimes ban you for life from Five Eyes Countries (Canada, the UK, USA, Australia and New Zealand) unless a waiver is granted for you to travel.

Contrary to popular belief, you're apparently allowed one and only one conviction when crossing into the USA (not sure of other countries) if the record is for a crime that is not one of "moral turpitude" but there needs to be a passage of time -- I think it's five years -- of the person keeping their nose clean. At the end of the day, it's the Customs agent you deal with who will pass judgement on whether or not to let you in.
No, the rules are defined in statute, and there are about 1,000 reasons why, for primer see:http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/immigrationlaw/chapter8.html

Pro tip - at the border never say you smoked weed even once in your life, you can be banned for life for "participation" in any of the listed inadmissability rules, one does not even need to be charged or convicted. It is clearly stated in the statue. And yes, sexual crimes at the county level are reported to both Border police/patrol and Homeland Security (started when the statue was updated as part of the US fight against human trafficing). Some states and counties are very harsh, someone advised not to hobby in the US, good advice, unless you know the SP stick to self service, cops run sting operations every day, get caught in a spa and you get human exploitation charges since many spas in the US are primary human trafficers.
 
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