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[meepyl]

Being charged doesn't = conviction.

This article is another fine example of our tax dollars at work. Arresting the scary consenting adults doing dastardly things like not conforming to some other monkeys views of what is "right" and "wrong".

Why can't Canada and the US be more like most of the countries in Europe and cut these ridiculous laws out.

It is retarded that this kind of thing is illegal in the first place.

I guess I'm preaching to the choir.

 

[DoubleDave]

Being charged doesn't = conviction.

Arresting the scary consenting adults doing dastardly things like not conforming to some other monkeys views of what is "right" and "wrong".

I agree with you regarding consenting adults but, as per my previous post, if these girls are in this business against their will then these places should be shut down and either way we shouldn't be supporting them.

 

[riceking]

I agree with you regarding consenting adults but, as per my previous post, if these girls are in this business against their will then these places should be shut down and either way we shouldn't be supporting them.

I'll post the link later but the article in today's Citizen says that police stressed this was not a case of immigrants being forced to act as sex workers.

 

[softtouch99]

The link for the citizen is;

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/city/story.html?id=fdbff87f-680d-41ef-bbd1-5a80c7e49141

 

[DoubleDave]

I stand corrected. So I wonder then, what made these places stand out?

 

[Scott706]

Being charged doesn't = conviction.

True but being charged does = signficant investment required to avoid conviction

 

[OnTheWayOut]

True but being charged does = signficant investment required to avoid conviction

So maybe we can surmise that the local attorneys are somehow behind this as they are the ones who profit most.

 

[Scott706]

So maybe we can surmise that the local attorneys are somehow behind this as they are the ones who profit most.

They don't have to be behind it because the system is designed to take care of them as a natural course of events.

 

[compactdisc]

I feel sad for the three fellas that had their names posted in the newspaper. Somehow that doesn't seem right. Was it really necessary? It can cause them lots of grief.

I viewed the Facebook profiles of the two younger guys. One of them is an elementary school teacher, the other is the sort of guy whom you imagine visiting these places. Both seem like pretty decent fellas. It does seem unfair. There are other people who do much worse things that never are subject to such embarrassment and humiliation.

 

[Winstoncup]

Mary

Yan chun Li mentioned in the sun is our beloved Mary. Wow 50yrs and a body like that. I hope someone can make a visit on January 7 at the court house to give us the verdict. This really pisses me off. They went in for the cash lets face it. Also crime families running non-asian mp must have been getting pissed off from the decline activities in their locations. Believe me it is not to far from the truth. Anyway hope Mary can get through this.

 

[SemiRetired]

Don't be silly. She is actually 51 and has grand children too. She always does look like in her late 40s though but I know some of you thought she was in her 30s. Well, we all need new glasses some days ;-)

For 386, they did us a favour in closing in down. It was filthy and disgusting to say the least.

It was really stupid of Sun to post the patrons' names. I really do feel sorry for them. I wonder how this will affect all the Asian MP businesses especially when every single one of them does offer extras.

Yan chun Li mentioned in the sun is our beloved Mary. Wow 50yrs and a body like that. I hope someone can make a visit on January 7 at the court house to give us the verdict. This really pisses me off. They went in for the cash lets face it. Also crime families running non-asian mp must have been getting pissed off from the decline activities in their locations. Believe me it is not to far from the truth. Anyway hope Mary can get through this.

 

[trichome]

Yan chun Li mentioned in the sun is our beloved Mary.

What a ridiculous waste of resources. Mary should be given a public service award, not be arrested on trumped up charges. She is one of the nicest ladies I've ever met in this business and was never what you would consider high mileage. She was fun but old school and never crossed the line. This is such a shame. If this causes her to retire, I will miss her company. I certainly wish her the best.

As for the found ins, it may be legal to print their names but it is morally reprehensible and that law should be challenged. It convicts someone in the public eye before they have been proven guilty of anything.
I once told a working girl in Amsterdam about how we treat the business of pleasure over here. When I got to the part about John Schools, she couldn't stop laughing. She thought I was making it up.
Vice may capable of destroying innocent lives but in my experience, the police do a pretty good job of it themselves.

 

[riceking]

I feel bad for all that had their names published - the men and the women. I feel especially bad for the teacher (assuming the Facebook profile is of the same guy charged). You gotta wonder how that is going to affect his career. Speaking of Facebook, it's probably not a good idea to have a fully searchable Facebook profile that includes your full name and date of birth, especially if you're going to be involved in any questionable activities.

These laws are fucked. And I don't see them changing any time soon, given society's puritan attitudes towards commercial sex and the authorities' reluctance to give up any means they have of controlling people.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

Mary

I've always said Mary was the classiest asian MA I ever met. Hell, forget asian MA, the classiest MA period. I had recommended her to CMJ but it never worked out. She would have fit in better at a place like that but I don't think she would have been comfortable in the shower. I tried getting her to shower with me for years, never happened *g* Plus she's older than the typical CMJ girl but still I think she would have fit in.

It's terrible news that she was busted, she never did the things that caused the bust. But since she was essentially the manager I guess she has to take some responsibility for what went on there. But I never heard of anyone there going over the limit until very recently. And it wasn't Mary. If I had to bet I'd say she had no idea anyone was doing more than she should have. Knowing her as I do I don't think she would have had a problem telling them to stop or leave. Unless the owner over-ruled her, guess that's always a possibility.

Funny about her age ...... when I met her @ 3.5 years ago on Baseline she told me she was 34. And looking at her I didn't argue. As I got to know her better she admitted to me that she was older but still under-reported her age to me by @ 3 years. I didn't bother revealing her age here because it didn't seem to matter and I didn't want to hurt her biz.

I feel terrible that I haven't seen her recently. I most likely will not see her again and I'm not real happy about that. I figure she's unlikely to return to MA biz. A very sad day.

As for the names in the paper, yeah it sucks. No presumed innocent for these guys and gals. But this happens all over, not just here. We are involved in high risk activities and it's the chance we all take. Doesn't make it right, but we all know that's the way it is. If you can't pay, don't play. Easy for me to say sitting at my puter, I suspect I'd be crying if I was one of the guys busted.

The grapevine says this may not be the end. I hesitate to say that as I can't confirm and don't want to hurt anyone's business. I would think that that's already happened and don't want to make it worse. But we're here to look out for each other and don't want to see guys here get nailed. Then again, I have to wonder if any of those arrested were Terbites?

Truth is, we've been through similar before and things cool off a bit and then LE stirs shit up again. Thank god they're going after hardened criminals like us and leaving those pesky robbers, murderers and rapists alone

 

[Bluenose]

Mary? 50? Get outta town!

LOL. That's frickin hilarious. Well, she had me completely fooled and I must have seen her 15 or 20 times.

Too bad about the bust, she was a total sweetie. Maybe it's a sign that she should look for another line of work.

 

[lovesgettingbbbj]

I really doubt that would be happening. This is Canada not the US.

That would likely be entrapment. She can't start just giving you a HJ and then charge you.

There is no such thing as entrapment in Canada and if you were around during the Eastview Massage/D.A.N.W.P. bust in Vanier you will know that the Ottawa Police have placed undercover officers in MP's.

The question now is what's left as far as Asian places go here in Ottawa? Is it worth taking a chance or should people let this blow over?

 

[TravellinMan1]

I wonder if anyone has any news on this story.

1. The articles and police report said that Maggie (owner) would appear in "show cause" court the day after the bust. Any news?

2. The articles report that the other ladies will be in court Jan 7. On Elgin I assume? Have they been free since?

3. The article makes no mention of the fate of the three guys. Anybody care to comment?

 

[maurice93]

I wonder if anyone has any news on this story.

1. The articles and police report said that Maggie (owner) would appear in "show cause" court the day after the bust. Any news?

2. The articles report that the other ladies will be in court Jan 7. On Elgin I assume? Have they been free since?

3. The article makes no mention of the fate of the three guys. Anybody care to comment?

The ultimate punishment is hardly ever in the media - just the accusation. The police never issues a press release saying that some of the people they charged were let off.

 

[Bluenose]

I don't have any specific information but re. point 2, it's extremely unlikely that anyone would be jailed pending a court appearance for a minor non-violent offence.

I wonder if anyone has any news on this story.

1. The articles and police report said that Maggie (owner) would appear in "show cause" court the day after the bust. Any news?

2. The articles report that the other ladies will be in court Jan 7. On Elgin I assume? Have they been free since?

3. The article makes no mention of the fate of the three guys. Anybody care to comment?

 

[dummpy]

Unless they find you with your dick inside an MA or her mouth, I don't see how they can charge you. Being in a legally licensed MP on a table face down getting a rub certainly breaks no laws. They can't assume because Joe Blow got laid there last week that every guy who walks in is there for sex.

Unless they catch a customer in an illegal act I can't see how they can arrest him.

BTW, which MP is "a residence on Radstock Priv., near Somerset and Kent streets" ???

Magy or Mary was the resident at Radstock, she answered the phones and did calls when the regulars were to busy.