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The busts were related to a September probe into illegal massage parlours in Gatineau, where 13 women and four men, all between 30 and 40 years old, were arrested. Quebec police rubbed out nine massage parlours during that investigation
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lovesgettingbbbj

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And there goes 3 more places. I never went to 386 but thought the other one was overpriced and not the greatest service. I'm shocked 256 Bank didn't get nailed too
 

dean80

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This is scary. any ideas why they are busted. Were they busted because they didn't have a rub and tug license?
 

OldNerd

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Question for lawyers

If the company advertised themself for years, is it reasonble for the men to assume that it is legal operations?
If you walk down the street and see the spa sign, do you have to check license before asking for massage?
 
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OnTheWayOut

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Oh No! I hope Lucy/Cathy/Mary didn't get busted .... one of the ages listed matches up with hers (unless she had a b-day) but I never asked her real name ..... hmmmm, hope they didn't search her cell for phone numbers ..... ahhhh heck, how would they know I was a customer and not just a friend?

Sure hope she wasn't busted ........ she's way too pretty to be in the slammer with those dyke chickies!!!!
 

yesguy123

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'no client lists were found'
hopefully places arent keeping lists...or emails for that matter (take note)
cell phone records wont matter, could be anything like a friend.
 

maurice93

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OldNerd said:
If the company advertised themself for years, is it reasonble for the men to assume that it is legal operations?
If you walk down the street and see the spa sign, do you have to check license before asking for massage?
From what I have learned on this board over the years....

First off am "erotic" massage license or "body rub" is not a license to give handjobs. It is a license for an erotic massage or a body rub.... see we all know what goes on, the muncipality knows what goes on, but its simply to regulate it.

Still a HJ given in a public setting is "potentially" a criminal activity under the Criminal Code "Common Bawdy House" (or certainly enough to get a charge against you that may not hold in the court of law) ... there is a grey area on HJ's (some case in Newmarket), but certainly not BJ or FS

Just because you have a municipal license does not mean you are absolved fom Common Bawdy House / Criminal Code. They are totally independent of each other (one is By-Laws, the other is the Criminal Code) The Criminal Code doesn't give a shit if there is a license, all they care about is sexual activity. .

The problem often arises a) when muncipalities who liked the idea of regulating these activities and the revenue gained, decide they no longer want to tolerate or regulate those activities.... or b) when certain spas engage in other business or sexual activities beyond the implied "wink-wink" stuff When a municipality tolerates the stuff, there is a very low risk of police activity - they will usually act in acoordance with what the municipality desires. But when the municipality decides to change its mind (such as what has happened in York Region the last 5 years) police can basically run havoc over everything. And everything will get shut down.

Of course, police can do whatever they want as well, if they want to piss off the muncipality.
 

maurice93

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yesguy123 said:
'no client lists were found'
hopefully places arent keeping lists...or emails for that matter (take note)
cell phone records wont matter, could be anything like a friend.
A client list is a non[issue It can't be released. Nobody on the list has committed a crime, so it certainly can't be published. This isn't USA.

The only crime you can be charged with is a "Found-IN" in a Common Bawdy House. You can only get charged if you are there during the time of the raid.

Even if they know you were thee before, you can't get charged.
 
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Unless they find you with your dick inside an MA or her mouth, I don't see how they can charge you. Being in a legally licensed MP on a table face down getting a rub certainly breaks no laws. They can't assume because Joe Blow got laid there last week that every guy who walks in is there for sex.

Unless they catch a customer in an illegal act I can't see how they can arrest him.

BTW, which MP is "a residence on Radstock Priv., near Somerset and Kent streets" ???
 

maurice93

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slurp said:
Unless they find you with your dick inside an MA or her mouth, I don't see how they can charge you. Being in a legally licensed MP on a table face down getting a rub certainly breaks no laws. They can't assume because Joe Blow got laid there last week that every guy who walks in is there for sex.

Unless they catch a customer in an illegal act I can't see how they can arrest him.

BTW, which MP is "a residence on Radstock Priv., near Somerset and Kent streets" ???
Sorry, Slurp, your wrong.... despite your perspective being seemingly common sense!!! Its been discussed enough on the Toronto boards.

The police investigate the spa, determine there is sexual activity (of course they do it over multiple visits just to be sure on our tax-dollar :rolleyes: ).

Then once enough evidence has been obtained, they determine it is a Common Bawdy House... they then decide to raid the spas.

Once the raid starts, EVERYBODY in the spa usually get charged with being a FOUND-IN no matter if your getting a legit massage, whether your sitting in the lobby waiting for the appointment, getting a HJ, getting a nice back rub, taking a dump, on your way out, or fucking the MPA at the time. All staff, including any door staff, is also being charged under the same laws.

Now getting charged and being convicted are two different things. You might be able to get off if you were there just for a massage. but getting charged and having your name in the paper will be a nuisance
 

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slurp said:
Unless they find you with your dick inside an MA or her mouth, I don't see how they can charge you. Being in a legally licensed MP on a table face down getting a rub certainly breaks no laws. They can't assume because Joe Blow got laid there last week that every guy who walks in is there for sex.

Unless they catch a customer in an illegal act I can't see how they can arrest him.

BTW, which MP is "a residence on Radstock Priv., near Somerset and Kent streets" ???
You might escape conviction on a charge of being "found in a common bawdy house" but the fact remains, you can still be charged. And that is all that is needed to get your name in the paper.

If you read the bawdy house law, it says anyone can be charged as a "found in" if they are found in a bawdy house "without lawful purpose". That seems like it could be a grey area for conviction but you are always risking a "found in" charge if you are in an MP that is busted.

As maurice93 said, the municipal laws and the federal laws are independent of one another. A municipal license does not exempt a place from being considered a bawdy house under the Criminal Code.
 

Jabba

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Keep an eye out

I seem to remember a thread a couple of years ago that talked about police planting female agents at a few of the MP joints. They would work there and gather enough intel or whatever.

Just to be on the safe side, ask a few cop-exposing questions if you get a new MA. Anybody got any suggestions?
 

maurice93

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Jabba said:
I seem to remember a thread a couple of years ago that talked about police planting female agents at a few of the MP joints. They would work there and gather enough intel or whatever.

Just to be on the safe side, ask a few cop-exposing questions if you get a new MA. Anybody got any suggestions?
I really doubt that would be happening. This is Canada not the US.

That would likely be entrapment. She can't start just giving you a HJ and then charge you.
 

Jabba

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maurice93 said:
I really doubt that would be happening. This is Canada not the US.

That would likely be entrapment. She can't start just giving you a HJ and then charge you.
What if the "she" was really a "he" in drag :eek:
 

DoubleDave

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I see that Canada Border Services were involved as well and it says that this bust was a result of the Gatineau investigation so I would surmise that this had more to do with human trafficking (girls thinking they're coming to a new life only to find out that they have to "work off" their debt) than it did with anything else.

If this were about the other goings on there are a hell of a lot of other places that could have been hit. So, do yourselves a favour and stay away from places that are "importing" girls and stick to the places where the girls are just out to make a buck of their own free will.
 
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