as for kingpin, and joeybatts. honestly guys you're both non clients so in reality this isn't going to be much of an issue for you guys anyways. again you don't realize the pressure wear under to insure that these ladies are busy and at the same time the pressure that you have the lady available on time when you arrive instead of waiting.
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It is because you are so happily oblivious to the points being made here. Period!
I've never used an agency, but would use PK if I did...I also dont do half hours, so the occurrence the op had is not likely to happen to me, but as I read this thread I am seeing a lot of people who this did not even happen to, getting upset about something that didn't upset the op, who it did happen to....the points on both sides have been made well though.
Sort of takes a way from a nice review of Brooke.
Sort of takes a way from a nice review of Brooke.
Thank you Hector. I appreciate your support. And to withpassion.. I'm not being oblivious. But at the end of the day, this is a very rare occurrence, and not likely to happen often a most client respect the appt times they set. Really truly this not a problem here..
But lets just throw this out here so it is clear and there are no misunderstandings.. At the time when you book with us, and we ask you how long you would like, simply indicate that you MAY want to extend and ask if that is a possibility. This avoids the SP from having to be put in the middle of things.
Listen, if there is a possibility for you to extend, of course we would want to have that door open for you.
But if I have to choose between the odd situation where we had to speak to a client and clarify things with them and getting shit for that, or having a client giving us crap for having the lady not ready and he goes into the call in a pissed off mood, I will
always choose to protect the ladies interest first.
Rule number one in this business is to take care of the ladies, and they will take care of you. Without them, we wouldnt be in business. I have seen other prominent agencies take the MTL approach towards
the Ottawa market (customer is always right) and eventually their ladies left the business and have become almost irrelevant to the Ottawa market. These agencies were often praised about their "customer service".
By taking our approach, we have kept an amazing lineup of ladies, and at the same time kept several individuals who had a sense of entitlement away from our agency. I would say that would be a win - win
Take a look around at the Ottawa scene, and tell me I don't know what I am talking about..
But lets just throw this out here so it is clear and there are no misunderstandings.. At the time when you book with us, and we ask you how long you would like, simply indicate that you MAY want to extend and ask if that is a possibility. This avoids the SP from having to be put in the middle of things.
Listen, if there is a possibility for you to extend, of course we would want to have that door open for you.
But if I have to choose between the odd situation where we had to speak to a client and clarify things with them and getting shit for that, or having a client giving us crap for having the lady not ready and he goes into the call in a pissed off mood, I will
always choose to protect the ladies interest first.
Rule number one in this business is to take care of the ladies, and they will take care of you. Without them, we wouldnt be in business. I have seen other prominent agencies take the MTL approach towards
the Ottawa market (customer is always right) and eventually their ladies left the business and have become almost irrelevant to the Ottawa market. These agencies were often praised about their "customer service".
By taking our approach, we have kept an amazing lineup of ladies, and at the same time kept several individuals who had a sense of entitlement away from our agency. I would say that would be a win - win
Take a look around at the Ottawa scene, and tell me I don't know what I am talking about..
Therein lies the problem. If you had of prepped the SP properly, this would never have happened. You prolong these threads just because you can't stand up and say something like, "Yup, we should have told (whomever) to check with the office before they agree to extend the time and we shouldn't have called the client."
That would be that. End of story.
But, of course, that would not be your style. And puh-leeze don't give me this protect the girl thing. Sure, no one wants to deal with a pissed off client, so I'm not saying protecting the SP isn't the point. But to blame your client (without which NEITHER one of you would be making money) is completely unwarranted and unprofessional.
Anyway, if you want this to end, just stop trying to justify your position. You cannot justify it. Leave it alone.
Why couldn't you just make note of the clients phone number, and then if he ever re books in the future, when he calls in, notify him then? Then you don't have to put the client in jeopardy by calling him?
So Joey your suggestion is that we record guys numbers. I wonder who wants to be on that list? The only numbers that are recorded are blacklisted individuals. Guys that are serious problems, someone that wants to extend their appt would hardly qualify for this. I personally don't think it was handled badly. It was dealt with immediately. Within 5 mins of his leaving the incall location, calling from a blocked number to keep things discreet. It would be reasonable to assume that he would not be in a place that would be comprimised. Nobody was put in "jeopardy".. In addition he turned around and gave a great review of Brooke. So I highly doubt that he was " tuned up " ... The point was made with the lady and the client and we considered the matter closed.
What you guys don't see is we have clients that confirm they want to see a lady for 30 mins, they arrive and demand an hour or they will leave. This causes a problem for everyone. Lisa made a point to ask him not once, but twice.. Yes Brooke should have refused the extention, but it was her 2nd client of her LIFE and it probably wasn't front and centre in her mind. And while it's true it wasn't part of her "Orientation" it will be noted for future Escorts.
What you guys don't see is we have clients that confirm they want to see a lady for 30 mins, they arrive and demand an hour or they will leave. This causes a problem for everyone. Lisa made a point to ask him not once, but twice.. Yes Brooke should have refused the extention, but it was her 2nd client of her LIFE and it probably wasn't front and centre in her mind. And while it's true it wasn't part of her "Orientation" it will be noted for future Escorts.
Wow, so now a client ASKING to extend a session is him demanding an extension or he will leave. That's interesting.
I, personally, have dealt with PK on a few occasions and have NEVER been asked ahead of time how long I was booking for. I admit that I should have and always remember as soon as I get off the phone that I forgot, but the point is that I haven't been asked either.
I have enjoyed my experiences with the girls that I have seen from PK and do believe that they do a good job in finding the girls and would probably deal with them a lot more but have trouble getting past all of the front office/customer service issues that they have.
If they would realize that we are actually trying to help them do a better job with these threads it would be one thing, but they keep attacking us for any constructive criticisms that we have and never acknowledging any responsibility on their end is really turns me off and I doubt that I will be dealing with them again until they actually make some strides in this way.
I didn't read this quite the same way.
Was this a blanket statement to describe all clients who ask for extra time, or was he just saying that some guys, or the odd guy who have/has booked for 30 minutes will actually threaten to walk out on their original booking if they are not accommodated on the later, impromptu, request for additional time? That would be a little heavy handed for the client to do imo.
I cant see it being an issue or them saying NO if indeed there is ample time such that the next client is not inconvenienced
Was this a blanket statement to describe all clients who ask for extra time, or was he just saying that some guys, or the odd guy who have/has booked for 30 minutes will actually threaten to walk out on their original booking if they are not accommodated on the later, impromptu, request for additional time? That would be a little heavy handed for the client to do imo.
I cant see it being an issue or them saying NO if indeed there is ample time such that the next client is not inconvenienced
I'm with Hector...I also did not read it that way either...
This thread has sadly turned into a gratuitous PK bash, which is a sport that many here love to engage on...This was a review thread on Brooke guys, we should move on (I know I am perpetuating this thread staying on top), but really...I think the well known PK bashers have got their shots in...can we just move on? Jason already admitted that Brooke shjould not have have accepted the extension, it was her first day and phoning minutes after leaving an incall is certainly within temporal tolerance of the session that it would not compromise discretion, and a reminder that it would be preferable to let the agency know before the time of the booking is within reasonable business protocol obviously...in my opinion...
This thread has sadly turned into a gratuitous PK bash, which is a sport that many here love to engage on...This was a review thread on Brooke guys, we should move on (I know I am perpetuating this thread staying on top), but really...I think the well known PK bashers have got their shots in...can we just move on? Jason already admitted that Brooke shjould not have have accepted the extension, it was her first day and phoning minutes after leaving an incall is certainly within temporal tolerance of the session that it would not compromise discretion, and a reminder that it would be preferable to let the agency know before the time of the booking is within reasonable business protocol obviously...in my opinion...
Hector,
I agree with what you are saying. What I meant with my previous message was that in this situation the OP said that once he met Brooke he decided that he would like to stay for an hour and asked if that was possible, which I see no problem with at all. When he asked he was granted the extension, so I don't see any wrongdoing by him in this situation at all.
The mistake in this scenario is on the part of either Brooke or PK in granting the extension. The problem with this whole thread is that PK refuses to acknowledge this and keeps trying to shift blame to the OP for actually wanting to spend more time with Brooke, then calling him after the session to tell him that what he did was wrong and now implying that he would have walked out if this extension had not been granted.
I agree with what you are saying. What I meant with my previous message was that in this situation the OP said that once he met Brooke he decided that he would like to stay for an hour and asked if that was possible, which I see no problem with at all. When he asked he was granted the extension, so I don't see any wrongdoing by him in this situation at all.
The mistake in this scenario is on the part of either Brooke or PK in granting the extension. The problem with this whole thread is that PK refuses to acknowledge this and keeps trying to shift blame to the OP for actually wanting to spend more time with Brooke, then calling him after the session to tell him that what he did was wrong and now implying that he would have walked out if this extension had not been granted.
I guess that is the part I missed...the OP, "Randy" seems like a good guy, and I never inferred from PKs' posts that he (Randy) was one of the people that threatened to cancel entirely if he didn't get his way.
I interpreted , rather, this situation is not a "one off" and that others, in the past, had abruptly threatened to abandon their original booking if not accommodated. I see where it can be a source for problems when it
affects the next client.
In Randys' case, he did not seem put out by the call, other than being mildly surprised, and chalked it up to miscommunication...seems to be a bit of a tempest in a tea pot.
Points have been well made and I certainly understand that some guys, having discretion in mind, would take offence at the call, but Randy didn't, and I am sure PK has noted the basic theory for not calling and would look to find a more discreet way to handle this if it were to happen again. His point is understood by me that this was as a result of a new lady not being equipped to deal with this event, and it seems to be lesson learned. I guess I am leaning to the "no harm, no foul" theory that seems to be what it was in Randys' case.
In fact, as Ryan also mentioned, it's too bad a good reco of a brand new SP, Brooke, is lost in all this temerity
[ then calling him after the session to tell him that what he did was wrong and now implying that he would have walked out if this extension had not been granted.[/QUOTE]
I interpreted , rather, this situation is not a "one off" and that others, in the past, had abruptly threatened to abandon their original booking if not accommodated. I see where it can be a source for problems when it
affects the next client.
In Randys' case, he did not seem put out by the call, other than being mildly surprised, and chalked it up to miscommunication...seems to be a bit of a tempest in a tea pot.
Points have been well made and I certainly understand that some guys, having discretion in mind, would take offence at the call, but Randy didn't, and I am sure PK has noted the basic theory for not calling and would look to find a more discreet way to handle this if it were to happen again. His point is understood by me that this was as a result of a new lady not being equipped to deal with this event, and it seems to be lesson learned. I guess I am leaning to the "no harm, no foul" theory that seems to be what it was in Randys' case.
In fact, as Ryan also mentioned, it's too bad a good reco of a brand new SP, Brooke, is lost in all this temerity
[ then calling him after the session to tell him that what he did was wrong and now implying that he would have walked out if this extension had not been granted.[/QUOTE]
Ok to clarify, I did not say that Randy had made that demand. I was mentioning that there are often clients that DO make that demand and can really get aggressive when it isn't met.
As I said before, the easiest way to deal with this is simply ask the phone person if an extention is available if things click better than expected. If we can extend it without putting another client out, OF COURSE we will oblige him.
Guys who bash us, for the most part do not really understand the business so we dont really take it personally. (especially coming from Joeybatts, AKA grand formage aka Ric Flair)
And there was defineately no harm no foul, we actually like Randy.. and it was just to clarify things with him. We used common sense and didn't call him an hour later, he would have had to make it to his car at best. Everything
got settled out, and Brooke is Friggin awesome.. Things are working out well with her and Clients seem to be very happy with her.
Guys, we are trying to look out for your interests too, if clients change their appt lengths it will seriously affect your ability to see the ladies. Its a balancing act, and sometimes we get it right.. Sometimes we don't.
As I said before, the easiest way to deal with this is simply ask the phone person if an extention is available if things click better than expected. If we can extend it without putting another client out, OF COURSE we will oblige him.
Guys who bash us, for the most part do not really understand the business so we dont really take it personally. (especially coming from Joeybatts, AKA grand formage aka Ric Flair)
And there was defineately no harm no foul, we actually like Randy.. and it was just to clarify things with him. We used common sense and didn't call him an hour later, he would have had to make it to his car at best. Everything
got settled out, and Brooke is Friggin awesome.. Things are working out well with her and Clients seem to be very happy with her.
Guys, we are trying to look out for your interests too, if clients change their appt lengths it will seriously affect your ability to see the ladies. Its a balancing act, and sometimes we get it right.. Sometimes we don't.
I have been staying out of this because it truly is time to let it be done with. But oh no, you just can't leave it without your typical and usual slag. Everything else you wrote would show that you finally get it, but you just can't resist throwing in some insults for good measure. You truly are your own worst enemy. You are hopeless. I give up.
I am withpassion, Jason needs to sometimes walk away, but I think he has a hard time getting his head through the doorway sometimes. Joeybats was providing suggestions and some ideas on this thread, but got dumped on without any provoking. Ask me, who looks bad because of this?
Pretty much. I actually have seen PK girls in the past. And also I'm not ric flair or whoever else he says. Mod is free to check the IP addresses. I wish he stopped attacking me on a personal level and making false accusations. I was just trying to provide ways to help you, but Jason instead feels justified taking shots at me.
I like Pink Kitty and their lineup. I deal with the actual agency, directly, about 0.07% of my actual allotted time so I don't see what all the friggin' fuss is here by the Beaver Brigade's Better Business Bureau. But you are all very good typists so keep practicing your wonderful sentence constructions. Have you guys seen all the stupid fly-by-night bait-and-switchers lately? I think PK is fine and you guys need to worry more about arranging appointments for your pickle-in-the-ass-ectomy. Sheesh!
