Brian Burke

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new2game said:
..what has he accomplished???.....I think his team made the playoffs one more time than the JFJ led Leafs did over that span of time....and not mortgaging the future???...he got fired cause he sat on his hands and did nothing at the trade deadline...and that 08 Canucks team badly underachieved..injuries or not..

Meanwhile, Doug Armstrong is available...the architect of the Dallas Stars...who have a legitimate shot at the Cup this year...yes, that's Armstrong's team..not Brett Hull's..

Armstrong is the best AVAILABLE candidate..and an excellent one at that....not some pie in the sky stealing a GM from another club candidate


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In terms of availability, Armstrong is the best candidate.
 

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there has to be some way we can rid this town of Richard Peddie...please please please...someone run him over...his driver over...cut his break lines...rig his plane...do something

this guy is an absolute fucking joke and has us doing this same shit year in year out....hes playing us like a fiddle....drastic times call for drastic measures..

im lucky that i work on cruise ships...i havent seen the leafs play for the last two years...i just get back for the start of the playoffs, and there is one constant... RICHARD PEDDIE AND CO.... MUST LEAVE!!!!

Brian Burke isnt a good GM... look at his track record....the Anaheim team...wasnt his...it was Murrays....from Hartford all the way down to Vancouver...HIS RESUME IS GARbAGE!!!

you want GM...u look at, and stay focused at, Scott Bowman (whether available or not), Neil Smith (check his resume), and push hard for one of the following, a Jim Nill/Stevie Y Gm/AGm combo, Colin Campbell (practically wrote the CBA, and one name i havent heard since they hired JFJ

Dean Lombardi... he built San Jose before Wilson stepped in...and now look at his up and coming Kings....

nevermind Brian Burke....i'd put him after Brian Clarke to be honest...but i really like Clarke and the teams he builds...young, fast, finish-your-check type of team.



k...im finished venting.
 

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Did anyone really think that the search would end? It seems the Leafs want a proven candidate for the position. Anything else would be pointless.
 

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guyroch said:
Could it be that they want Burke and are leaking these things out just to create a diversion
Anything is possible. MLSE are are a confused bunch aren't they?

They do things hastily and then ask themselves "What are we going to do next?"

It's not like there aren't any candidates out there.
 

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leafs fans better hope it's not Nonis/Vaigneault...
 

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No !! Fuck NO!!

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Leafs expected to meet with ex-Canucks GM Nonis

THE CANADIAN PRESS

The Toronto Maple Leafs are expected to meet with former Vancouver Canucks GM Dave Nonis next week, a source confirmed to The Canadian Press on Friday.

Nonis was fired by the Canucks on April 14.

The Leafs have been looking for a general manager to succeed John Ferguson since Cliff Fletcher took over the team as interim GM on Jan. 22. It's not clear at this point whether Nonis would be hired on as GM or in some other front-office capacity.

A call to Nonis was not immediately returned Friday. Fletcher had no comment when reached Friday.
 

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canadian media (including bell and the teachers pension fund) just trying to keep torontonians interest in hockey...

perfect timing to spin nothing into something.

heck am640 likes it, rogers communication likes it, the sun, star, and canoe.ca seem to profit from it... nhl.com, cbc, tsn, and the score aren't hurt by any leafs fan interest... it goes on and on and NOTHING of significance HAPPENS.
 

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Nonis was an average GM but the Leafs need someone who needs to turns this ship around quickly.
 

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Nonis was an average GM but the Leafs need someone who needs to turns this ship around quickly.
The cupboard is bare in Leaf land. There aren't any "quick fixes".
 

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hunter001 said:
The cupboard is bare in Leaf land. There aren't any "quick fixes".
I agree hunter001. No such thing as a quick fix in sports but in the next few years, a very good general manager can help anyone into a Cup contender. The Leafs have been losing for so long that we don't know (or remember) when they actually were a successful hockey club.

An excellent management team can change things quicker than you think. The main drawback is those no-trade clauses in McCabe, Kaberle, Kubina, Tucker's contracts. JFJ made an incredible mess of this. That's why it will be that much harder to rebuild.

Usually, successful teams say that they build from the net out. Toskala is an excellent goalie but there is no backup plan. We traded a future star in Tuukaa Rask for Raycroft. We traded for Raycroft when he had a poor sophomore season. It seems that JFJ always wanted to get a discount. Lindros, Allison, and Belfour were all busts as far as I am concerned. I think that it's contagious as Ricciardi is the same way.
 

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still think a possible Armstrong-coach 'Q'-Joe Nieuwendyk is the best possible option...

but, MLSE will never see it.
 

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The cupboard is bare in Leaf land. There aren't any "quick fixes".
Let's not forget, the Leafs are in the Eastern Conf., other than Pittsburg, all teams are mediocre at best, and none will be considered as a Cup contender even for next year. Sorry Habs and Sens fans.

Just look at Philly, they had an up and down season, lost 2 games in a row to the lowly Leafs when they themselves were fighting a secure a playoff spot., and now are playing for the Conference Final, all just because they are the best of a sad bunch.

On paper the Leafs had a decent lineup and I blamed the coaching staff primarily for their failure to motivate the "frozen 5" (Sundin's not inlucded) to play more consistantly till the playoff hopes were out of sight.

I had hope that they would gut the team completely and rebuild from scratch, but I know that will never happen unless there's a change in ownership; whoever new GM they hire will be given the corporate mandate : make the playoffs at all costs. It's also because of this theory that I just can't get myself excited about all these talks as to who they'll hire as the next GM.

They'll likely resign Sundin, hire a no nonsense/kick ass kind of coach, and with Toskala, whom I'd consider one of the getter goalies in the entire league, they'll be good enough to complete for a playoff spot; but they'll have from slim to none chances of beating Pittsburg.

That will likely be the only "quick fix".
 

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MLSE does not care about the fans as over the years Leafs fans have proven rabidly loyal. MLSE realizes they don't have to field a premium product to put bums in seats. Until something changes to demonstrate to MLSE that the fans are not willing to put up with mediocrity any longer you will continue to see second rate staff running our beloved team.
 

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fired can be a better path to take than the unexperienced...
 

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The Star is right that “Leafs appear to be on the trail of the fired”. I’ve heard from reliable sources that the new twist of Peddi and Co. is to hire Maurice as the GM and JFJ as coach for a one year deal, in the true spirit of supporting the fired. I’ve also heard that Leafs and Burke have all but agreed on a fat, no trade, contract effective as soon as Burke becomes available, on the condition that he would move McCabe, Kabina and Tucker – and their fat, no trade - contracts to the Ducks while he is still in control of the ex-Stanley winner.
 

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lawyerman said:
Lindros, Allison, and Belfour were all busts as far as I am concerned. I think that it's contagious as Ricciardi is the same way.

I'll agree that Lindros and Allison didnt work out.......but to say belfour was a bust.....WAY OUT OF THE QUESTION!!!

he is a sure-fire Hall of Famer...no question about that...and look at his stats in first Two years as Leafs Number 1

2002-2003 2003-2004
37wins 34wins
7SO 10SO
2.26GAA 2.13GAA
.922Sav .918Sav

CUJO couldnt touch those numbers...

add to that hes won everything there is to win for a goalie...including a CUP and an Olympic Gold Medal.
 

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robycapone said:
I'll agree that Lindros and Allison didnt work out.......but to say belfour was a bust.....WAY OUT OF THE QUESTION!!!

he is a sure-fire Hall of Famer...no question about that...and look at his stats in first Two years as Leafs Number 1

2002-2003 2003-2004
37wins 34wins
7SO 10SO
2.26GAA 2.13GAA
.922Sav .918Sav

CUJO couldnt touch those numbers...

add to that hes won everything there is to win for a goalie...including a CUP and an Olympic Gold Medal.
My apologies. Belfour is a sure fire hall of famer and was a great goaltender but I never said that he was a bad goaltender. I should not have said that he was a bust with the Leafs but he was in his final year. Did I say Lindros was a bad player? Lindros was the best player in the league at one time. I just said he was a bust with the Leafs. I hate it when people put words in my mouth. If I was wrong about something, then I will be man enough to admit it. Belfour was not a bust but he was not exactly stellar in his last year with the Leafs:

05-06 Toronto Maple Leafs wins-22, Shutouts-0, GAA-3.29, .892 Save Percentage

His numbers were actually very good in his first two years with the Leafs and I did not realize how good they were until now.

I guess with age and the "New NHL", he was past his prime. I always liked Belfour and his fiery attitude.
 
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i wouldn't touch any other but coach 'Q'... hurry, he'll be scooped up fast.

btw-Ray Shero contacted Q already about joining the Penguins organization... I don't know for what role, but, I think if Q wants a HC job that it's his for the taking anywhere, so I'm sure he'll hold out.
 
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