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Breaking NEWS...Felt Goes Public as Deep Throat

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bbking said:
Saddly it's true - the GOP operate best when they have someone they can slander
They learned it from the "D's" after being in opposition for 35 years...there is enough mud slinging on both sides of the aisle.
Remember Bush Sr. and Bob Dole? The "D's" surely put a number on them. Continued with Moveon.org and Michael Moore.
 

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I can't imagine two less sympathetic characters than Nixon ( a true slimeball - effective but a slimeball) and a Hoover bag man at the FBI that leaked to the media. Talk about sh*t and sh*ttier.

Half the members on this board weren’t even jerking off when Watergate was going on, give it up already. I'm sure this was engineered by the daughter so she could cash in while the old man duels. Funny that the Washington Post didn't get to break the story....

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americanson said:
Hey OTB I agree with your unsympathetic analysis of both men but as you state they were both effective and in the end that's what matters. You know the a.c.l.u. for example state that they despise Hoover for his human rights abuses but apparently those rights don't extend to the ww2 Japanese. In fact Hoover was honored by the aclu back in 1942 for speaking out against president roosevelt's misdeeds. Anyhoo that's all he's a partial list of some of my other favorite americans: 1) Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan, Whittaker Chambers, Joe Mccarthy, Bush Sr and Junior, and Mark Fuhrman. Hah I love the way the moral majority crowd loves to bash Fox and Fuhrman (Fuhrman's a regular) describing both as "racist" like they've never said anything they later regret. Oh and I guess that Simpson is innocent too right libs? Yeah right.
Joe Mccarthy?

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americanson said:
and would remain the brains and balls behind Eisenhower's presidency for 8 years. Don't get me wrong Ike was a great general and american but Nixon took on most of the duties.

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where do you get this theory?
 

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onthebottom said:
I can't imagine two less sympathetic characters than Nixon ( a true slimeball - effective but a slimeball) and a Hoover bag man at the FBI that leaked to the media. Talk about sh*t and sh*ttier.

Half the members on this board weren’t even jerking off when Watergate was going on, give it up already. I'm sure this was engineered by the daughter so she could cash in while the old man duels. Funny that the Washington Post didn't get to break the story....

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What about Nixon's decision to bomb Indo China ? Hanoi ? It was an outright case of murder that flew in the face of International Law. The US still hasn't apologized for it and most American's don't even acknowledge it. Nixon was a freak and psychopath.

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Guy Lafleuer said:
What about Nixon's decision to bomb Indo China ? Hanoi ? It was an outright case of murder that flew in the face of International Law. The US still hasn't apologized for it and most American's don't even acknowledge it. Nixon was a freak and psychopath.

Guy
and he was a bad dancer
 

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americanson said:
Hey OTB I agree with your unsympathetic analysis of both men but as you state they were both effective and in the end that's what matters. You know the a.c.l.u. for example state that they despise Hoover for his human rights abuses but apparently those rights don't extend to the ww2 Japanese. In fact Hoover was honored by the aclu back in 1942 for speaking out against president roosevelt's misdeeds. Anyhoo that's all he's a partial list of some of my other favorite americans: 1) Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan, Whittaker Chambers, Joe Mccarthy, Bush Sr and Junior, and Mark Fuhrman. Hah I love the way the moral majority crowd loves to bash Fox and Fuhrman (Fuhrman's a regular) describing both as "racist" like they've never said anything they later regret. Oh and I guess that Simpson is innocent too right libs? Yeah right.
Hey, throw in George Lincoln Rockwell, John Birch, and Father Coughlin and you are holding quite the set of cards.
 

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NEWS or not

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And now he will get a ghost-written book and some money for his progeny. A big deal this story is. :rolleyes:
BTW, i'm sure this non-news event will be of interest to some, Bob Woodward and Carl Burnstein are appearing on Larry King Live tonight.
 

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onthebottom said:
I can't imagine two less sympathetic characters than Nixon ( a true slimeball - effective but a slimeball) and a Hoover bag man at the FBI that leaked to the media. Talk about sh*t and sh*ttier.

Half the members on this board weren’t even jerking off when Watergate was going on, give it up already. I'm sure this was engineered by the daughter so she could cash in while the old man duels. Funny that the Washington Post didn't get to break the story....

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BTW here's the answer to that question...

Yesterday morning, Vanity Fair released an article by a California lawyer named John D. O'Connor, who was enlisted by Felt's daughter, Joan Felt, to help coax her father into admitting his role in history.
 

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Mcluhan said:
BTW here's the answer to that question...

Yesterday morning, Vanity Fair released an article by a California lawyer named John D. O'Connor, who was enlisted by Felt's daughter, Joan Felt, to help coax her father into admitting his role in history.
Looks to me the daughter wanted to cash in. Good for her i would have done the same thing.
Certainly that he was still alive at the time of the revelation, made it so much more believable, and killed any future conspiracy theories.
 

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he investigated and tried already ? I thought Reagan pardoned him back in 1989. Can anyone confirm ?

Guy
A Blogger confirmation, maybe that works..
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Reagan Pardoned 'Deep Throat' for Illegal Spying on Antiwar Activists
Among all the news about the self-outing of 'Deep Throat,' this news has gotten only a brief mention:

In 1981, Ronald Reagan granted a presidential pardon to Mark Felt for illegal actions against antiwar activists, including break-ins. Reagan said that Felt followed procedures he



believed essential to keep the Director of the FBI, the Attorney General, and the President of the United States advised of the activities of hostile foreign powers and their collaborators in this country. They have never denied their actions, but, in fact, came forward to acknowledge them publicly in order to relieve their subordinate agents from criminal actions.

Four years ago, thousands of draft evaders and others who violated the Selective Service laws were unconditionally pardoned by my predecessor. America was generous to those who refused to serve their country in the Vietnam war. We can be no less generous to two men who acted on high principle to bring an end to the terrorism that was threatening our nation.
Those who study history know that the Cointelpro activities supervised by Mark Felt were not limited to surveillance and burglary. During that period, the FBI actively interfered with the internal politics of dissident groups, including starting and inflaming factional struggles. There were many local groups that were under the total control of FBI infiltrators.

Reagan's comparison of peaceful dissent and the illegal actions of the FBI is outrageous.
 

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Mcluhan said:
BTW here's the answer to that question...

Yesterday morning, Vanity Fair released an article by a California lawyer named John D. O'Connor, who was enlisted by Felt's daughter, Joan Felt, to help coax her father into admitting his role in history.
Ah yes, best to cash in before the old koot is in the ground.

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Beyond Deep Throat: The Cast of Watergate

NPR.org, June 3, 2005

The confidential informant known for 30 years as "Deep Throat" is finally out of the shadows, identified as senior FBI official Mark Felt. But as the last major detail of the Watergate story was revealed, a younger generation strained to understand what the fuss was all about, and others realized they'd forgotten many of the key details. If you can't remember the players without a program, here's a list of notables:

Richard Nixon

The 37th president of the United States, Nixon became the first to resign his office in the wake of the Watergate scandal. Had he not resigned, he would have been impeached by the House of Representatives and convicted by the Senate.

On June 17, 1972, with Nixon just months away from what turned out to be a smashing re-election victory, four men broke into the offices of the Democratic National Committee at the Watergate office building in Washington. The incident was initially ignored by much of the political cognoscenti, as the White House denied any involvement. But as that turned out to not be the case -- as more testimony and evidence unveiled a vast administration conspiracy in the break-in and cover-up -- the one-time "third-rate burglary" ultimately cost Nixon his job, with many of his underlings (including his former attorney general) going to prison. The prospect of Nixon himself serving jail time ended when his successor, Gerald Ford, pardoned him for any Watergate-related crimes he may have committed.

Nixon died on April 22, 1994 at the age of 81.

Archibald Cox

Cox, a law professor at Harvard who had served as Solicitor General under President Kennedy, was named the Watergate Special Prosecutor on May 18, 1973. He was given the authority to investigate the Watergate cover-up. From the outset, Cox made it clear to the Nixon administration that he would be an independent prosecutor, and independent he was. After the July 13th revelation by Nixon aide Alexander Butterfield of secretly recorded phone conversations by the president, Cox insisted that the White House turn over the tapes. The White House refused, but Cox persisted. On Oct. 20, 1973, Nixon ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire Cox; Richardson, who originally hired Cox, refused and resigned instead. Then the job of firing Cox went to Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus. He too refused and was himself fired. Finally, Nixon got Solicitor General Robert Bork to carry out the order. The chain of events became known as the "Saturday Night Massacre," and was seen as the true beginning of the end for Nixon’s presidency. Time magazine wrote: "By firing Archibald Cox, Nixon had removed one of his best hopes of eventual vindication -- a final judgment by an independent investigator that the president was in no way criminally implicated in the Watergate deceits and transgressions."

After leaving the government, Cox returned to Harvard University and later became chairman of Common Cause, the liberal lobbying organization. He died on May 29, 2004, at the age of 79........

link to the rest of the Watergate Players:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4678527
 

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RW GOP Ex-convicts Expounding Their Version of Law and Order

Hearing these RW ex-convicts preaching about what a bad guy Mark Felt is just gets sillier and sillier.

Another Con Job
By MARTIN SCHRAM
Jun 8, 2005, 06:35

History's latest con happened right before our eyes, just a week ago. We were watching the nonstop cable news - when suddenly our television screen was transformed into Alice's Looking Glass.

All reality was backwards. But perhaps only the old-timers knew it, being old enough to recognize the faces that popped up on our looking-glass/screen _ and remember their criminal rap sheets.

Richard Nixon's ex-convicts _ who did prison time for crimes against our democracy, then turned their crimes into profits by writing books and becoming celebrities _ had returned to work one more con. Nixon's White House's special counsel, Charles Colson, and burglar-in-chief, G. Gordon Liddy, rode the cable news circuit, voicing moral indignation _ shock and outrage! _ at the revelation that the FBI's deputy director, Mark Felt, was Deep Throat. He was the source who fed facts to the Washington Post's Bob Woodward, truths that ultimately drove the disgraced president from office and landed his henchmen in the slam.

"I was shocked because I worked with him closely," Colson said with wide eyes and a straight face, on MSNBC's Hardball. "And you would think the deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, you could talk to with the same confidence you could talk to a priest."

Then on CNN: "I was shocked, because ... I talked to him often and trusted him with very sensitive materials. So did the president. To think that he was out going around in back alleys at night looking for flowerpots, passing information to someone, it's just so demeaning. It's terribly disappointing. It's not the image of the professional FBI that you would expect."

Ah, image. Conjure this image of his own professionalism, conceded by Colson on MSNBC: In the Oval Office, Nixon orders Colson and others to burglarize the Brookings Institution, a Washington tank where many ex-official Democrats think. (Nixon twice also ordered the firebombing of Brookings, his tape recordings reveal.)

Meanwhile on CNN, Liddy was also gassing aghast about Felt: "I view him as someone who violated the ethics of the law enforcement profession." On MSNBC, Liddy, who plotted the burglary and bugging of the Democrat headquarters at the Watergate building, bragged: "I planned the Brookings break-in." It wasn't done, Liddy said _ "too expensive."

Of course, not all in the Nixon White House were criminals. So when Nixon speechwriter Pat Buchanan appeared on our looking-glass/screens, some viewers may have expected a refreshing, ruminative perspective about Mark Felt and Watergate. Then Buchanan spoke: "I think he's a snake."

Buchanan explained: "I think what he did is deeply dishonorable and shameful. Here is an individual who has taken an oath and who is part of a major investigation, who is running around, sneaking around at night leaking things to damage the president of the United States in the middle of a campaign. And I don't see what is heroic about someone who did that."

The sound you hear is the sound of one journalistic mind boggling. Because this was never about heroics, just a helping hand, high and inside. All of us who were journalists investigating Watergate _ from many news organizations that unearthed a share of the scoops _ understand the importance of having the FBI's No. 2 man on call, willing to confirm things we'd heard yet couldn't quite prove.

Lost in the wailings of Nixon's men is the thing Americans need to know about Felt's Watergate dilemma. Felt couldn't go to his boss: J. Edgar Hoover had just died and was replaced by an unqualified Nixon loyalist, L. Patrick Gray III, who promptly destroyed some documents and slipped others to officials running the White House cover-up. Felt couldn't go to the attorney general: John Mitchell, as AG, presided over the Watergate burglary planning; when he became Nixon's campaign manager, his replacement was another Nixon loyalist not trusted by many FBI hands. Felt couldn't go to congressional investigators: the Senate Watergate Committee didn't exist yet. Felt certainly couldn't go to Nixon. So he helped a young reporter friend, Bob Woodward.

Now these Nixon criminals popped up on our looking-glass/screens, wailing like pro wrestlers, pounding the mat in feigned pain.

Yet occasionally, even they told a truth. As when Liddy _ who went from jail to Hollywood, from burglary to talk radio _ said on MSNBC: "There's great life after Watergate."

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6845.shtml
 
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