BOYCOTT SHELL (Gas)

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Papi Chulo

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There are many sites that want to have a one day boycott from buying gas. This does not achieve anything as people either fill up the day before or the day after.

If we pick ONE large company.. and do not buy from them.. their pricing policies will have to change.. or they will go out of business

I say that effective today.. we should not purchase anything from Shell.

I picked Shell because it is one of the large companies.. and it is not Canadian
 
Good luck with the boycott.

People will continue to fill up regardless.
 
What a waste of time. Why are people so stupid to belive this horseshit every time it happens.

The one thing I hate about long weekends or when the price of gas increases is the morons who drudge up this boycott idoicy.

Name one time the boycott of a commerical product has ever worked.
 
yea get with the program boycott sunoco.. stay away ... ( that is where i buy gas and it would help have less lineups at the pump.... ) boycott sunoco... about at 10 pm or so... got it?????????
 
masterchief said:
Name one time the boycott of a commerical product has ever worked.
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I am not advocating a one time boycott... I am saying DO NOT BUY FROM SHELL UNTIL THEY OFFER FAIR PRICING

They will cave over time as it would be foolish for them to "close up shop"
 
JessiMae said:
So what defines fair?

Prices in Europe are much higher then they are here.
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Prices are much higher in Europe as they have been for many, many years. Those are fair prices for that market.
 
Papi Chulo said:
I am not advocating a one time boycott... I am saying DO NOT BUY FROM SHELL UNTIL THEY OFFER FAIR PRICING

They will cave over time as it would be foolish for them to "close up shop"
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First off I'm sorry to have to tell you this but the downfall of a free market economic model is that sometimes prices go up. Especially when it's a commodity that most people will pay any price for.

So you're inane bitching that Shell is not offering fair prices is stupid. They have every right to charge whatever they want, it's your right not to buy it, that's the fairness. if you don't like the price don't use it.

Someone else has pointed out that gasoline is more expensive in Europe. Here's another truth for you, based on inflation we pay less for gas than any other generation in North American since cars have been around.

And if you think that they'll cave in you must be stupider than I thought.
 
*Sigh*... another pointless boycott.

If you're going to pick on Shell because they're not Canadian, you might as well pick on anything that isn't Petro Canada.

But even if you drive a Ford Excursion, you (and a few others) boycotting one brand isn't going even show up on their radar. It will be a drop in the ocean.

Industry uses way more. For example... the typical non-hybrid TTC bus uses 70L/100KM of Diesel. Having the TTC buy one hybrid bus saves more fuel than having 10 people switch to Toyota Priuses.

And what makes Shell's pricing any less "fair" that Petro Canada? All gas stations do the same thing.

The only way, and I mean the *ONLY* way, to stick it to big oil is to have a sustained long term decrease in fuel consumption.

The only ways to do that is to use less energy.

That doesn't just mean driving less or driving a more efficient vehicle. It also means using less electricity and less fuel to heat your home. After all, big oil companies sell other products like heating oil, natural gas and coal (in some cases).

If you want to totally cut off big oil from your money directly or indirectly, take $60,000 to $100,000 and install a grid-tied solar panel and windmill system on the roof of your home. Then either buy an electric car or convert your car to electric. Also, switch your hot water and heat to electric or spend some extra money on a geo-thermal system.

If you do that, the only utility bill you'll have is water. And you won't even be giving money to big oil companies for the oil used in oil changes.


Papi Chulo said:
There are many sites that want to have a one day boycott from buying gas. This does not achieve anything as people either fill up the day before or the day after.

If we pick ONE large company.. and do not buy from them.. their pricing policies will have to change.. or they will go out of business

I say that effective today.. we should not purchase anything from Shell.

I picked Shell because it is one of the large companies.. and it is not Canadian
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A more practical way is to not buy anything from the station when you walk in to pay for your fill-up. If you need a pack of gum or cigarettes, go over to the corner convenience store and get it from there. This will definitely hurt their bottom line. As far as a lower price is concerned, that remains to be seen, but at least doing this will get the frustration out of your system.
 
fearnoevil2005 said:
A more practical way is to not buy anything from the station when you walk in to pay for your fill-up. If you need a pack of gum or cigarettes, go over to the corner convenience store and get it from there. This will definitely hurt their bottom line. As far as a lower price is concerned, that remains to be seen, but at least doing this will get the frustration out of your system.
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This doesn't affect the Parent Company in any way. The non gas products are where the owner/operator makes his money. He makes SFA on the sale of gas. He makes his money by selling anything there that ISN'T gas.
 
nautilus said:
This doesn't affect the Parent Company in any way. The non gas products are where the owner/operator makes his money. He makes SFA on the sale of gas. He makes his money by selling anything there that ISN'T gas.
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Good point. But have you noticed that some stations charged a higher rate than others? The parent company is only part of the equation.
 
fearnoevil2005 said:
Good point. But have you noticed that some stations charged a higher rate than others? The parent company is only part of the equation.
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Well, this may apply to others but DOES apply to CTC Gas Bars, the ONLY way an owner/operator can change the price is to call head office and get confirmation. That or receive a call from head office telling him to change the price.

Independants can charge whatever they like but if they undercut the bigboys by too much, they find their deliveries are delayed, paperwork lost, receivables become immediately due. This was all detailed in a Toronto Sun report a couple of summers ago.

As for hurting the bigboys the ONLY way to do it is to decrease their profits. Not using more fuel won't do that, they'll just jack the price up to take up the difference.

I think the best idea (and I know this is a pipedream) but for everyone in Canada to NOT go to work for one day. EVERYONE. With the message to the Government that if they don't step in and curb the gouging that this will continue.

I know the fuel prices are high in the US as well but do you know why they aren't as high as ours? The US government KNOWS it can't fuck with it's population because, unlike us, the US population would rebel and oust them.
 
"First off I'm sorry to have to tell you this but the downfall of a free market economic model is that sometimes prices go up. Especially when it's a commodity that most people will pay any price for."

Sorry, if you think our society is a free market one, you're mistaken. The Cdn Government sets and controls pricing on all kinds of items including commodities (like Milk for instance). The reason they DON'T limit pricing or control the pricing on gasoline and other petro based products is because they reap a windfall when prices go up.

There is also a mechanism in place to limit monopolies but that only applies to industries the Government sees fit to patrol. I can bet you any amount that if 3 or 4 companies bought up ALL the trucks and trucking companies in Canada and doubled the prices to ship goods the Cdn Government would step in one a millisecond and halt the price increase. Why? Because it would ruin the economy (just like extreme profits in the gasoline industry is ruining ours).
 
Gasoline is cheaper than bottled water in Canada.
These boycotts will NOT work.
Stop wasting your energy.
 
tboy said:
"First off I'm sorry to have to tell you this but the downfall of a free market economic model is that sometimes prices go up. Especially when it's a commodity that most people will pay any price for."

Sorry, if you think our society is a free market one, you're mistaken. The Cdn Government sets and controls pricing on all kinds of items including commodities (like Milk for instance). The reason they DON'T limit pricing or control the pricing on gasoline and other petro based products is because they reap a windfall when prices go up.

There is also a mechanism in place to limit monopolies but that only applies to industries the Government sees fit to patrol. I can bet you any amount that if 3 or 4 companies bought up ALL the trucks and trucking companies in Canada and doubled the prices to ship goods the Cdn Government would step in one a millisecond and halt the price increase. Why? Because it would ruin the economy (just like extreme profits in the gasoline industry is ruining ours).
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First of all you can't compare milk to gasoline. True the government sets a price for milk but it's not to keep the price from going up. It's to keep it from going down to far. That's the opposite of what you want the gov't to do for gas.

Second of all, if the reason the gov't isn't controlling the price of gas is because they get a windfall everytime the price goes up then why would they keep any other prices artificially low?

Third of all, if the gov't did step in and control prices then they would have to give subsidies to the gas companies to offset the difference in prices to prevent the gas companies from either closing or selling their product elsewhere. Where do you think that money would come from?

True our market is not a true fair market system, but a fair market system is only a theoretical construct. All governments regulate their economies to some degree or another. We're certainly closer to it than most other countries imo.
 
Papi Chulo said:
I am not advocating a one time boycott... I am saying DO NOT BUY FROM SHELL UNTIL THEY OFFER FAIR PRICING

They will cave over time as it would be foolish for them to "close up shop"
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Even if you could get this to work (and history says you can't) all you're going to do is hurt the local gas stations, the one's who have little control over the price of gas.

So no one buys Shell gas. They're still buying gas so Shell just sells it's surplus to the other gas companies. They'll buy it because it'll be easier than ramping up their production levels.

As has been said many many many times already in various similar threads, you wanna make the price of gas go down? USE LESS OF IT. It's the only way.
 
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