Bosma trial.....what effin idiots

[nottyboi]

www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nation...tim-bosma-testifies-at-trial/article29974335/

Smirch is the absolute dumbest cretin on the planet. Sings like a canary on the stand, no deal, will get life. All the while he coulda been out in a year or two if he played his cards right. Both gonna go down for 1st degree, no question. But Smirch coulda walked if he wasn't a moron and lawyerd up ASAP and went to the cops. what a chump, he will have 25 years to think about what a moron he is. I hope Millard gets dangerous offender status since he clearly killed Bosma just for the fun of it.

 

[Ridgeman08]

Neither of them get any sympathy from me. They can both rot in he'll as far as I'm concerned.

 

[SkyRider]

Agree, if Smirch is smart he would have played the "Karla Homolka" and either get immunity or a much lesser sentence.

Millard is also suspect in the death of his father and girlfriend.

I noticed the media is still referring to this as the "Bosma Trial" when it is Millard and Smirch who are actually on trial.

 

[whartonguy]

I noticed the media is still referring to this as the "Bosma Trial" when it is Millard and Smirch who are actually on trial.

I know what you mean, but in the long run.....i'd rather remember Bosma than have the other two scum-of-the-earth imprinted in my memory!

 

[SchlongConery]

www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/mark-smich-charged-in-death-of-tim-bosma-testifies-at-trial/article29974335/

Smirch is the absolute dumbest cretin on the planet. Sings like a canary on the stand, no deal, will get life. All the while he coulda been out in a year or two if he played his cards right. Both gonna go down for 1st degree, no question. But Smirch coulda walked if he wasn't a moron and lawyerd up ASAP and went to the cops. what a chump, he will have 25 years to think about what a moron he is. I hope Millard gets dangerous offender status since he clearly killed Bosma just for the fun of it.

His name is Smich.

Speaking of morons. I think you watch too much Law and Order talking about plea bargains, and out in "a year or two", "lawyered up" etc.

Ever consider that his lawyer (Thomas Dungey, who has been defending murderer for 25 years, so just might have a bit more expertise than yourself) [FONT=arial, sans-serif]might have already proposed a plea bargain with the Crown? The the Crown knows they have an incredibly strong case against Smich and said they are not interested in less than 25 years?


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[SchlongConery]

Agree, if Smirch is smart he would have played the "Karla Homolka" and either get immunity or a much lesser sentence.

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Yeah, like he would get immunity! Because the Crown hasn't laid out an almost perfect case against him and Millard and needed a co-accused's testimony to convict Millard!

 

[rafterman]

Seems Smich while he was a follower is certainly culpable in first degree murder. Wonder if Millard will ever be tried for the murder of his father and former girlfriend? A little karmic justice would see these two lowlife scumbags bunking together in the slammer.

 

[nottyboi]

Seems Smich while he was a follower is certainly culpable in first degree murder. Wonder if Millard will ever be tried for the murder of his father and former girlfriend? A little karmic justice would see these two lowlife scumbags bunking together in the slammer.

100% FOR SURE!! He admitted to helping to dispose of the body, and conceal the firearm. So at this point he is 100% all in on 1st degree. He still has not coughed up the firearm, probably tried too late to trade it for a deal and the crown decided it was like a pair of twos. Too late, have a nice life IN JAIL!!! Loser POS. IMHO this douchebag going to jail for life is the best thing that ever happened to his equally dumb ass loser GF. She is VERY lucky to not get charged.

 

[fuji]

Seems Smich while he was a follower is certainly culpable in first degree murder. Wonder if Millard will ever be tried for the murder of his father and former girlfriend? A little karmic justice would see these two lowlife scumbags bunking together in the slammer.

I think his defence is trying to get it reduced to accessory after the fact to murder. Claiming that Millard pulled the trigger and that Smich didn't know it would happen. But he basically admitted to trying to hide the body.

Still going to the slammer for a long time even if that's true, and he certainly threw Millard under the bus.

 

[IM469]

I think his defence is trying to get it reduced to accessory after the fact to murder. Claiming that Millard pulled the trigger and that Smich didn't know it would happen. But he basically admitted to trying to hide the body.

I agree completely - this best move his lawyer could do as the evidence was already overwhelming against them. He is not 'singing like a canary' to hear his own voice - he is trying to shift the joint responsibility for murder directly to Millard. It's ironic because Millard had folded his hand without knowing that his friend would throw him under Bosma's truck.

Smich has tossed his friend a carrot suggesting that he was having a mental problem when it happened but I think the chances for an insanity/mental incompetence plea are gone.

 

[nottyboi]

I agree completely - this best move his lawyer could do as the evidence was already overwhelming against them. He is not 'singing like a canary' to hear his own voice - he is trying to shift the joint responsibility for murder directly to Millard. It's ironic because Millard had folded his hand without knowing that his friend would throw him under Bosma's truck.

Smich has tossed his friend a carrot suggesting that he was having a mental problem when it happened but I think the chances for an insanity/mental incompetence plea are gone.

I think when you are as in deep as this douchebag is, you are equally guilty in the eyes of the law. If he went to the cops after, he could have claimed he feared for his own life while Millard was around. But with that much time passed, he is equally guilty. For him to be part and parcel of the whole thing, before and after, including parking the car etc, and then claim he had no knowledge a murder was gonna happen, is not credible. Nice try....LIFER.

 

[IM469]

I think when you are as in deep as this douchebag is, you are equally guilty in the eyes of the law. If he went to the cops after, he could have claimed he feared for his own life while Millard was around. But with that much time passed, he is equally guilty. For him to be part and parcel of the whole thing, before and after, including parking the car etc, and then claim he had no knowledge a murder was gonna happen, is not credible. Nice try....LIFER.

I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure about your assertion of 'equal guilt in the eyes of the law' so I defer my opinion to Smich's lawyer who undoubtedly is trying to serve the interests of his client. Smich has acknowledged and added to the known thefts of equipment demonstrating an established pattern of behaviour that does not involve murder. Independent if you chose to believe it, there is a distinct possibility that Smich didn't know there was a murder planned. Considering his participation in the cover up, it maybe a moot point but if you are his lawyer - what have you got to loose ?

 

[fuji]

"240. Every one who is an accessory after the fact to murder is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life."

 

[nottyboi]

I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure about your assertion of 'equal guilt in the eyes of the law' so I defer my opinion to Smich's lawyer who undoubtedly is trying to serve the interests of his client. Smich has acknowledged and added to the known thefts of equipment demonstrating an established pattern of behaviour that does not involve murder. Independent if you chose to believe it, there is a distinct possibility that Smich didn't know there was a murder planned. Considering his participation in the cover up, it maybe a moot point but if you are his lawyer - what have you got to loose ?

The question I have is why the lawyer did not try to trade his testimony to the crown for a said charge of accessory after the fact. Well he probably did, but the crown told him no deal and did not buy his story. Also the failure to help the cops retrieve the murder weapon will not sit well with the jury.

 

[fuji]

Near as I can tell the only difference between murder and accessory is the possibility of an earlier parole. I can't see how he gets less than accessory, which is life in prison.

Kind of raises the question of why he testified at all since he nailed himself to a life sentence.

 

[nottyboi]

Near as I can tell the only difference between murder and accessory is the possibility of an earlier parole. I can't see how he gets less than accessory, which is life in prison.

Kind of raises the question of why he testified at all since he nailed himself to a life sentence.

First degree vs accessory after the fact, I guess at this point he wanted to set the record straight that he is not a killer.

 

[Aardvark154]

First degree vs accessory after the fact, I guess at this point he wanted to set the record straight that he is not a killer.

At sentencing, however, that may well be an important difference, particularly if the Crown supports him!

 

[Aardvark154]

Kind of raises the question of why he testified at all since he nailed himself to a life sentence.

I know they have me dead to rights, my Lawyer tells me the same. But at least I have the opportunity to go on the record and say that I didn't intend to murder him.

 

[SkyRider]

Wonder if Millard will ever be tried for the murder of his father and former girlfriend?

Scenario 1: Millard is convicted of the Bosma murder and sentenced to life. Doubt the Crown will pursue the alleged murder of his father or GF. (This is basically what happened with Picton. The Crown did not pursue Picton for all the murders.)

Scenario 2: The jury finds Millard not guilty. The Crown will appeal. If all appeals fail, the Crown will pursue Millard for the alleged murder of his father and/or GF.

 

[nottyboi]

Scenario 1: Millard is convicted of the Bosma murder and sentenced to life. Doubt the Crown will pursue the alleged murder of his father or GF. (This is basically what happened with Picton. The Crown did not pursue Picton for all the murders.)

Scenario 2: The jury finds Millard not guilty. The Crown will appeal. If all appeals fail, the Crown will pursue Millard for the alleged murder of his father and/or GF.

I think with Picton they got a dangerous offender classification, I do hope they get that with Millard since it is pretty clear he killed Bosma for the sheer entertainment of it plus there is the possibility he has killed more. When did he buy that incenerator? When did his ex gf go missing?