Booking with upscale girls.

[Huron]

Settle down old timer- we don't want you having a heart attack.

I was reffering to this quote from above: "Face it, the concept of referral is in many high-end businesses. It's not about how much money you can throw at them, they want to cater to a select group of people. It's not about how much money you have, it's about prestige, something the lower-classes and nouveau riche don't really understand."

No need to be an arrogant dipshit.

I deleted that post because I realized it was out of line for me to launch an ad hominem attack against you, regardless of how justified and accurate I think it might be, but I don't mind going back into this childish stuff, if that is what you want.

I'll leave the members of this site to determine which one of us is the more arrogant. Perhaps we're both equally arrogant.

Look, you just do not get it. Those woman are not advertising to people like you or I. They are advertising to people for whom spending a few thousand dollars at a time is the equivalent of you or I going out to have a couple of pints at the local pub. I like what Stoo said: It boils down to the fact that if they want something, they are willingly to pay a premium price to get it. I bet most of the people that those women see probably only glance at the price briefly, just so they know how much to pay them. The cost simply does not factor into their decision.

Frankly, for you to be complaining about and making fun of women that you supposedly have no interest in seeing and seemingly look down upon with contempt is ridiculous.

 

[biogenicx]

I deleted that post because I realized it was out of line for me to launch an ad hominem attack against you, regardless of how justified and accurate I think it might be, but I don't mind going back into this childish stuff, if that is what you want.

I'll leave the members of this site to determine which one of us is the more arrogant. Perhaps we're both equally arrogant.

Look, you just do not get it. Those woman are not advertising to people like you or I. They are advertising to people for whom spending a few thousand dollars at a time is the equivalent of you or I going out to have a couple of pints at the local pub. I like what Stoo said: It boils down to the fact that if they want something, they are willingly to pay a premium price to get it. I bet most of the people that those women see probably only glance at the price briefly, just so they know how much to pay them. The cost simply does not factor into their decision.

Frankly, for you to be complaining about and making fun of women that you supposedly have no interest in seeing and seemingly look down upon with contempt is ridiculous.

You guy's are totally ignoring what I'm saying- For I could not care less about a price. It's how they need references. You are paying them- not the other way around. IDK to me it would be the same as interviewing someone for a position than having them ask the employer for references- just doesn't make sense to me.

And it's the arrogance factor- If some girl want's to charge 500 bucks an hour no problem lol. Really price doesn't matter. It's the whole "aura" (I think that's how you spell it?) surrounding them- I'm not sure if anyone else read there sites?

Huron- I will send you a pm to explain what I mean

 

[Meesh]

1. It is a level of protection against them getting ripped off. Which happens.

2. It is a level of protection against them getting injured or worse. Which happens.

Very simple.

Don't like it, move on. Also very simple.

 

[Huron]

You guy's are totally ignoring what I'm saying- For I could not care less about a price. It's how they need references. You are paying them- not the other way around. IDK to me it would be the same as interviewing someone for a position than having them ask the employer for references- just doesn't make sense to me.

And it's the arrogance factor- If some girl want's to charge 500 bucks an hour no problem lol. Really price doesn't matter. It's the whole "aura" (I think that's how you spell it?) surrounding them- I'm not sure if anyone else read there sites?

Huron- I will send you a pm to explain what I mean

You never research the company that you're applying to work for? That'll get you into trouble during interviews, at least any interviews that I conduct. It's never a bad idea to talk to employees or former employees either. It would be incredibly annoying, in my opinion, to get hired somewhere and then discover that it is hell to work there.

You're just annoyed that those women seemingly think they are better than you and that your money is worthless to them, is that it? Such is life. Move on and don't be bitter about it. Not having access to a few SPs will likely not put a dent into your hobbying. I'm not so sure that they actually think that about you or clients like you, rather it is just like Meesh writes above: It's just a level of protection for them. If they determine that they need that or want that, and that it won't put a dent into their earnings, more power to them.

 

[mandrill]

1. It is a level of protection against them getting ripped off. Which happens.

2. It is a level of protection against them getting injured or worse. Which happens.

Very simple.

Don't like it, move on. Also very simple.

Err, ummm, err, what about all the other independent girls like Gen or Bryn or Kaelyn? Your post implies they lack the wisdom or self-respect to protect themselves from injury or robbery.

Any of those girls care to comment?

 

[Meesh]

Err, ummm, err, what about all the other independent girls like Gen or Bryn or Kaelyn? Your post implies they lack the wisdom or self-respect to protect themselves from injury or robbery.

Any of those girls care to comment?

From which statement did you get the implication that I thought them unwise, please?

It is a matter of individual choice as to what protection each chooses to use.

 

[biogenicx]

You never research the company that you're applying to work for? That'll get you into trouble during interviews, at least any interviews that I conduct. It's never a bad idea to talk to employees or former employees either. It would be incredibly annoying, in my opinion, to get hired somewhere and then discover that it is hell to work there.

You're just annoyed that those women seemingly think they are better than you and that your money is worthless to them, is that it? Such is life. Move on and don't be bitter about it. Not having access to a few SPs will likely not put a dent into your hobbying. I'm not so sure that they actually think that about you or clients like you, rather it is just like Meesh writes above: It's just a level of protection for them. If they determine that they need that or want that, and that it won't put a dent into their earnings, more power to them.

once again incredibly insulting lol- do you think I'm poor or something? "Not having access"?- what exactly is that supposed to mean? Please do not sit and pretend to have any idea about my financial situation or my life because you read a few posts I wrote.


And if I was conducting an interview and someone asked me for references I would ask them if they were retarded than go on to hire one of the other 500 applicants. In no way did I mention going onto the company website or googling some information.

 

[Huron]

once again incredibly insulting lol- do you think I'm poor or something? "Not having access"?- what exactly is that supposed to mean? Please do not sit and pretend to have any idea about my financial situation or my life because you read a few posts I wrote.


And if I was conducting an interview and someone asked me for references I would ask them if they were retarded than go on to hire one of the other 500 applicants. In no way did I mention going onto the company website or googling some information.

No, I just think you're bitter. Clearly, if you're seeing SPs on a semi-regular basis, you're not poor by any definition.

Again, you're just not getting it. If you think so little of these women, why complain about the way they operate? I wasn't aware that this industry has been regulated yet, nor by you.

 

[biogenicx]

No, I just think you're bitter. Clearly, if you're seeing SPs on a semi-regular basis, you're not poor by any definition.

Again, you're just not getting it. If you think so little of these women, why complain about the way they operate? I wasn't aware that this industry has been regulated yet, nor by you.

*hitting head off table*

we clearly have completely different views on this subject- we could sit here and go at it for days but it is what it is and my view is what it is and some people may understand me (i think a few did?) and then there will be the other people who either don't understand me or don't agree with me.

I think the one guy said it best with the "alpha and beta" the alpha's are going to see one side and the beta's are going to see the other. This is in no way meant to be an insult in anyway shape or form.

Shall we agree to disagree?

 

[GotGusto]

You guys just don't get it do you, the high rollers can book these high end ladies anytime they wish, and take holiday anywhere in the world, and drive their Bentley, and wear their Patek, and more................and all at the same time if they want. That's the market these ladies target, not the guys who only can dream about seeing the high end ladies. I can assure you there is a sufficient size market in this town for these ladies, it's just not here on Terb.

But that high roller may not be interested in needing to obtain references.

 

[afterhours]

But that high roller may not be interested in needing to obtain references.

who really gives a fuck..he may or may not be, what's the difference? If she can't find customers she will starve or change her approach.

I personally found that if I want an SP delivered to my door in timely fashion, and I want her to be as advertized, and I want her to not be overpriced, I better pay the middleman and the driver and the SP. I therefore am not interested in independent ones, although I did have a few very good experiences with them.

Independent ones may be priced above or below the market (the latter is unlikely), and they are generally older. Not my cup of tea.

 

[GotGusto]

^^

Yes, that's why I generally use agencies too.

 

[eurotrash1970]

First off - It depends on your definition of high priced or catering to the rich. By looking at the upscale girls, you invite what comes with that. They are being more selective as are you. The road goes both ways. I still follow my rule and never ever give out my real information. I use a hobby phone, a dedicated email, etc.. If they asked me for my real info, I will say no. If you play in the higher end arena or in the US (I would never see any girl in the US that was not), you will need some sort of verification. It gives them some piece of mind that you took the time to get yourself cleared and that you might not be Norman Bates. They can go on the 411 site and black list someone if they're abusive. In the US, they can at least see that you're probably not LE. If they ask, just spend the $60 for verification and comply or move on. I think it's more about them trying to be more selective so they can charge more and see fewer people. That comes at a price.

 

[Riley.Royal]

I don't think its insulting - different girls work different ways and in different styles. Because someone wants references doesn't mean they're more cautious (I get references all the time that don't check out) and because someone doesn't require references doesn't mean they're less cautious. As much as escorting can be a buyer's market its still the provider's preferences that he needs to respect in order to book a date with the girl of his choice.

Russo: when you contact either Kylie or Gia I'd mention you'd never seen anyone else. Its likely they've heard that before and will have additional instructions or questions for you. It ought to be no big deal either way.

well said , some girls have thier screening to ensure thier time is not being wasted and they are seeing cleints who have some experience in seeing escorts. some girls do not see men who are seeing them for the first time or this it the first time in the business.

some escort website will have the sp friendly refernce logo on their website. it's about safety first and why should being safe be a problem.

 

[Hiding]

Err, ummm, err, what about all the other independent girls like Gen or Bryn or Kaelyn? Your post implies they lack the wisdom or self-respect to protect themselves from injury or robbery.

Any of those girls care to comment?

I don't think its insulting - different girls work different ways and in different styles. Because someone wants references doesn't mean they're more cautious (I get references all the time that don't check out) and because someone doesn't require references doesn't mean they're less cautious. As much as escorting can be a buyer's market its still the provider's preferences that he needs to respect in order to book a date with the girl of his choice.

Russo: when you contact either Kylie or Gia I'd mention you'd never seen anyone else. Its likely they've heard that before and will have additional instructions or questions for you. It ought to be no big deal either way.

 

[BohemianArtist]

I really don't understand the double-priced SPs. Maybe they think they're worth twice as much because they know which fork to use, and the "proper" way to eat soup. Maybe they cater to American tourists who don't know any better. As for the photo and reference thing, I gather some of them are models in real life and they may worry what their friends will think if they're seen at Lobby or wherever with an ugly old man in a cheap suit. For some I expect it's just high school behaviour. Remember those girls (and guys) who simply would not acknowledge your existence? Or maybe they really are worth twice the money. Perhaps I'll try one some time and find out.

 

[afterhours]

I really don't understand the double-priced SPs. Maybe they think they're worth twice as much because they know which fork to use, and the "proper" way to eat soup. Maybe they cater to American tourists who don't know any better. As for the photo and reference thing, I gather some of them are models in real life and they may worry what their friends will think if they're seen at Lobby or wherever with an ugly old man in a cheap suit. For some I expect it's just high school behaviour. Remember those girls (and guys) who simply would not acknowledge your existence? Or maybe they really are worth twice the money. Perhaps I'll try one some time and find out.

The very fact that they are being fucked not as often as the cheaper ones, already goes a long way in justifying the higher price. Besides, they are not being fucked by those who are looking for high mileage - and I would rather buy a car from a grandma than from a kid who was killing it every minute of every day.

One of the obvious benefits of living or renting in a good and expensive heighbourhood is the better chance of not running into poor people. You shield yourself from them with your money.

 

[Gia08]

Just for the record, I have never asked for a reference or much personal info when seeing someone in Canada. Therefore, who ever started this thread is making it up. I do not even use preferred 411.
However, my screening practices are much more stringent in the US due to LE.

I just wanted to clear that up so noone is misinformed with the information I need in seeing someone here in Canada.

Thanks,
Gia

 

[fmauhv]

This isn't only logical, it's reality, I know, been there, know of many guys who also do. Life in the female companionship industry is much bigger than just Terb, you'll never see those guys on here, they're much too busy making money.

I disagree with you there!!

 

[PolrBear]

Yeah. How dare they take precautions to ensure their safety and comfort and have preferences over who they open their legs for? The balls of those girls. :sarcasm:

Agreed. I for one would gladly offer the critique of an SP I was with, if she were to allow me to use her as a reference