wow. biggest pile of bullsh*t i ever heard.
if u go around believing women cut themselves open just for confidence. i feel really sorry for you.
Boob jobs are teh female equivalent of toupes for men
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if u go around believing women cut themselves open just for confidence. i feel really sorry for you.
If you go around believing women cut themselves just to sleep with you - I feel sorry for both your arrogance and your lack of sensitivity.
Your world is filled with the misguided (dated) conception that women's whole decision centre of appearance is to get laid by a man - and you feel sorry for me ???? So following the same enlightened viewpoint her slutty attire is a misguided plea to get fucked ? Is there any decision that a woman can make that she does for her own self-confidence or is that a facility that females lack ?
You hate fake tits - you only like naturals so if someone has a mastectomy and wants to get implants - a) she only wants them to get fucked 2) you would go for a flat scar tissue before even considering her fake tits.
It's stupid, it's insensitive, it's arrogant ... yet you feel sorry for me ?
No. You don't understand.
Looking attractive is not an end in itself. It's about looking attractive to others. We're social creatures.
Women get tits done, and play dress up every day, not for themselves but for the approval of the watchful eye of men in general - not just smallcock's eye. It's that approval and validation that makes them feel confident.
Everybody does it - men, women, and other.
What has this to do about getting laid?
It is the sole reason for doing it in most cases.
This isn't about personality and faces (and on that note you can add in makeup, fake hair, fake eye lashes, and facial surgery). It's about getting tits done. It's done with the belief that it will make them more attractive to others. Whether it actually does or not is a whole other topic.
I don't think most people assume women get boob jobs for men. They get boob jobs to get more attention from men ---> which gains the envy of other women ---> which raises their self esteem. Which is what the OP was saying (though I disagree with the rest of his post). Humans are social creatures, seemingly women more than men. Anything that raises apparent status is a boost to confidence. It is usually a purely selfish choice. It's the same reason people get lip injections or facelifts. It's because they feel inadequate and don't want to feel that way anymore.
You can bet that if men could get safe penis enlargement for an affordable cost, most would be doing it.
The sad part is that most people who think they are inadequate are dead wrong. That's what leads to cases where totally unnecessary and possibly detrimental (cosmetically or health-wise) operations are performed on women in an escalating spiral of inadequacy. One specific, relevant example I can think of is Jasmin @ Pure Spa. She already had implants, but she got incredibly lucky in that the look/size suited her perfectly and they felt amazingly natural. Then she wanted bigger. Why? Because she was envious of her fellow, bustier attendants who also had larger frames more suited to their bust size. I haven't seen Jasmin post-op yet, but seeing as you can't improve on perfection...well? I don't mean to highlight Jasmin in this thread; she's beautiful and incredibly charming and you should go see her right now! I just bring her up because that was a truly head scratching moment for me when she said she was going under the knife again.
That's a very extreme example that really doesn't argue your point very well.
Women get boob jobs because they want to appear attractive to which ever sex they are attracted to and to improve their social status. It's the same reason they wear make-up. It's the same reason both men and women get facelifts. And a variety of other procedures. Saying women do it "for themselves" does not actually explain why they do it, or is simply a vague way of saying they do it for the reasons I already mentioned.
Of course it's not all about men. It's more about the individual making the choice. But it does involve other people, specifically getting a step up on them.
Yes, boob jobs are the female equivalent of toupees for men because it is a means to make them feel better about their bodies. Whitey Bulger's dried up biddy GF had to get a boob job even in hiding. That is how the FBI caught up with them.
an example of a woman who had a boob job prior to going to a desert island or to South pole or to work with African children would be really convincing.
I agree! It has a lot to do with the woman's perception of herself. And also, interestingly enough, women will go to great lengths to impress other women, more than to impress men.
Being bald is a drag... Practically Everyone looks better with hair. but toupees a a bit pathetic. I'd rather be bald than pathetic.
Women have boob jobs for a variety of reasons. Some women just have really, really small tits. They feel self conscious about it. Their clothes never hang right on them. More power to them for taking action to speak to their own needs, say I.
A woman with really small boobs once said to me... "Big boobs look like fun" and you know, she was right from a number of perspectives.
Other women may indeed be doing it to attact men... but, if so, I appreciate their reasoning also... Thereby thet demonstrate a willingness to be cut open and have potentially toxic substances inserted into their bodies for the potential gratification or idle amusement of men... What's not to like??
Women have boob jobs for a variety of reasons. Some women just have really, really small tits. They feel self conscious about it. Their clothes never hang right on them. More power to them for taking action to speak to their own needs, say I.
A woman with really small boobs once said to me... "Big boobs look like fun" and you know, she was right from a number of perspectives.
Other women may indeed be doing it to attact men... but, if so, I appreciate their reasoning also... Thereby thet demonstrate a willingness to be cut open and have potentially toxic substances inserted into their bodies for the potential gratification or idle amusement of men... What's not to like??
I see that this thread has taken quite a few turns.
But with regards to the question of whether we do it "for ourselves" or to impress others - if you were a woman on a deserted island I highly doubt you could care less about your makeup, your boob size, or anything else about your appearance, other than for health and performance. Social Confidence would be meaningless - the sea, the sand and the jungle doesn't give a toss whether you are confident or not.
It is extremely hard not to care what others think. We truly are unavoidably social creatures. Even those who dress in a certain way and say they don't care what others think I think are generally lying to themselves - they care deeply that others think they don't care what they think!
But with regards to the question of whether we do it "for ourselves" or to impress others - if you were a woman on a deserted island I highly doubt you could care less about your makeup, your boob size, or anything else about your appearance, other than for health and performance. Social Confidence would be meaningless - the sea, the sand and the jungle doesn't give a toss whether you are confident or not.
It is extremely hard not to care what others think. We truly are unavoidably social creatures. Even those who dress in a certain way and say they don't care what others think I think are generally lying to themselves - they care deeply that others think they don't care what they think!
Can't have enlightenment without listening to other opinions. So keep 'em coming! I wasn't trying to shut you down. I still believe that our attempts to "beautify" ourselves has 100% to do with achieving social standing, desirability and acceptance, and nothing to do with some intrinsic value it conveys.
No, you wouldn't.
A shame it's not possible to run real life experiments like this.
If you were stuck on a desert island with the belief that nobody would ever locate you, you would be shocked at the state we'd find you in. You'd be many things, but pretty and dolled up isn't one of them. It wouldn't take long before you got over what seems like girly-girl instincts. We'd find you in a complete mess... dirty, bored, animalistic, and psychologically damaged.
