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Speaking of the Baker test, can you image the shock wave that travelled through the water after the blast? Imagine how many species of sea life were crushed from it?

I remember reading that the Yamato was anchored close to ground zero and still didn't sink. They ended up putting demolition charges and sank it that way.....
 
tboy said:
Speaking of the Baker test, can you image the shock wave that travelled through the water after the blast? Imagine how many species of sea life were crushed from it?

I remember reading that the Yamato was anchored close to ground zero and still didn't sink. They ended up putting demolition charges and sank it that way.....

I think you've misremembered! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Yamato
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crossroads#Battleship_Arkansas

jwm
 
tboy said:
Speaking of the Baker test, can you image the shock wave that travelled through the water after the blast? Imagine how many species of sea life were crushed from it?

I remember reading that the Yamato was anchored close to ground zero and still didn't sink. They ended up putting demolition charges and sank it that way.....
HIJMS Yamato was sunk by U.S. Naval aircraft during in April 1945. HIJMS Nagato an updated WWI Battleship which had been Admiral Yamamoto's flagship was sunk during test 'Baker.'

However, the ship you are thinking of which survived both tests but which had to be sunk later because it was so radioactively contaminated that it couldn't be boarded was the German Heavy Cruiser DKM Prinz Eugen
 
SOrry yeah, I was wrong. It was the Nagato and it survived the first able test.....but lasted 5 days after the baker test.

I didn't know about the German cruiser. I thought for sure the Nagato (mistakenly called the Yamato) that needed to be sunk.
 
Sexy_Dave said:

I see your Baker shot and raise you a Castle Bravo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd1IFjBNNVo

Accidentally the biggest American test ever...estimated yield should have been around 5 Megatons, but actual yield was around 15 MT because the new lithium deuteride fuel was much more efficient than expected.

Wonder what it must have felt like to be one of the scientists watching at what they thought was a safe distance, and then seeing that fireball get bigger, and bigger... :)
 
JohnFK said:
President Kennedy signed the nuclear-test ban treaty that halted atmospheric testing of thermonuclear devices.

It was rumoured that the Soviets had a Domesday Bomb, a cobalt-salted device with a yield of 50,000 Megatons which effectively would have destroyed all life on Earth.
The Soviet test you write of: the 30 October 1961 test of the "Big Ivan" or "Tsar Bomb" was the 50 megaton test of a weapon designed to be a 100 megaton weapon with a zone of destruction of 120 miles and a vaporization zone of 30 miles!
 
Aardvark154 said:
The Soviet test you write of: the 30 October 1961 test of the "Big Ivan" or "Tsar Bomb" was the 50 megaton test of a weapon designed to be a 100 megaton weapon with a zone of destruction of 120 miles and a vaporization zone of 30 miles!

Was this the bomb dropped on an artic island north of Russia or another one?
 
Aardvark154 said:
The Soviet test you write of: the 30 October 1961 test of the "Big Ivan" or "Tsar Bomb" was the 50 megaton test of a weapon designed to be a 100 megaton weapon with a zone of destruction of 120 miles and a vaporization zone of 30 miles!


Though the Tsar was impressive, it wasn't a cobalt-salted doomsday weapon. Sure, ending life in 120 miles of destruction is nothing to sneeze at, but I suspect that JohnFK was actually thinking about the theoretical weapon discussed in this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb

A cobalt-salted doomsday weapon using 510 tonnes of cobalt as a tamper (1 gram per square kilometer of Earth's surface) could theoretically end all life on Earth. Not by vaporizing everything, but by sprinkling radioactive cobalt dust around the entire earth.

Normal nuclear weapons create fallout too but it usually has half-lives that are too short or too long to have the 'doomsday' effect. Cobalt happens to have the right sort of half-life that would be very, very bad.

Nobody's sure if one of these bad-boys was ever built...it was just theoretically possible. Sure wouldn't want one in MY backyard!:eek:
 
smiley1437 said:
Though the Tsar was impressive, it wasn't a cobalt-salted doomsday weapon. Sure, ending life in 120 miles of destruction is nothing to sneeze at, but I suspect that JohnFK was actually thinking about the theoretical weapon
I knew that Tsar Bomb wasn't cobalt laced, but just went with the 50 megaton aspect having been reduced from 100 megatons and assumed that's what he was thinking of, however, perhaps not. Still it's interesting and thought provoking stuff.

Thanks for the further information about the idea of a giant dirty bomb.
 
Kind of makes you wonder: if we KNOW about these things, what do they actually have that we DON'T know about?

We found out about the MOAB a few years ago, but what are they working on now?