BMW or Audi

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BMW 3 series projects an image that you are a thirtysomething city dweller, upwardly mobile, ambitious, and like to drive fast/hard. Like to break the rules.

Mercedes C-class projects that you like luxury, prefer sedate cruising to speed, like status symbols.

Audi A4 is a bit of a hybrid...little bit of Volvo mixed with little bit of BMW. Great interior design, comes across as nice and upscale, but not luxurious or pretentious per se. A more luxurious VW in a way. I wouldn't want a VW, but I'd drive an Audi (not my first choice, but it's a decent car). Can be driven hard like BMW, but most aren't. My ex g/f drove an A4. I am a bit slanted against Audi as I had a 5000S back in '86 and it was in the shop with elecrtical problems every 3 weeks. Of course that was 22 years ago and Audi as a brand is totally different and much improved now.
 
Mack Bolan said:
BMW doesn't even come close to this car.

I beg to differ, the M6 does come close, in fact it's ahead of the entry level
R8 V8 but a notch below the V10, but so close, so to say it doesn't even come close is a bit misleading IMO.

Have you driven the M6! Press the power button on that V10 and close your eyes and feel those 500 ponies take you for ride!!!! Make sure your on a straightaway track though and no one within a 100 miles of you. 0 to 60 in 4.4 sec. and can top over 200 mph without the speed restricter. The R8 top of the line V10 can get you up to 600 HP, but is comparable in acceleration and top speed. Not much to choose between the two, love them both, although I personally like the styling of the R8 if you're into the sporty look.

As far as image is concerned wordwide, you have to look at the full line up and at this time BMW is still a notch ahead of Audi, but Audi has been slowly closing the gap over the years. Audi is still struggling to overcome its reputation for poor electronics, I use to own one and was forever in the shop due to some electrical problem or another. Once it overcomes this bad rep, I think Audi will eventually take the lead in image.
 
not to mention that BMW offers better cars for cheaper.

Compare the 2008 RS4 to the 2008 M3

They both have a similar engine ..the RS4 is 94k to start... M3?...71K. a TWENTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR difference

Only thing the RS4 has on the M3 is AWD which isnt necessary for a car like that anyways
 
Mia.Colpa said:
I beg to differ, the M6 does come close, in fact it's ahead of the entry level
R8 V8 but a notch below the V10, but so close, so to say it doesn't even come close is a bit misleading IMO.

Have you driven the M6! Press the power button on that V10 and close your eyes and feel those 500 ponies take you for ride!!!! Make sure your on a straightaway track though and no one within a 100 miles of you. 0 to 60 in 4.4 sec. and can top over 200 mph without the speed restricter. The R8 top of the line V10 can get you up to 600 HP, but is comparable in acceleration and top speed. Not much to choose between the two, love them both, although I personally like the styling of the R8 if you're into the sporty look.

As far as image is concerned wordwide, you have to look at the full line up and at this time BMW is still a notch ahead of Audi, but Audi has been slowly closing the gap over the years. Audi is still struggling to overcome its reputation for poor electronics, I use to own one and was forever in the shop due to some electrical problem or another. Once it overcomes this bad rep, I think Audi will eventually take the lead in image.

Yeah... I'm in the BMW camp but too bad the 6 series looks like shit :(
 
hairyfucker said:
I tend to agree. Both are somewhat too common today to really see them as a true statement anymore.

Well, sure, I don't think any car under 90k is uncommon in downtown Toronto these days...but my top two choices - Aston Martin DB9 and Rolls Royce Drophead Coupe - while uncommon, are too expensive for me (and most other people) to afford. If they weren't so expensive, they would be somewhat common in Toronto too I think as I'm sure I'm not the only one that likes them but can't afford them.

My friend lives in a condo with underground parking. He got a BMW 3 series last year. Looking at his parking lot, it seems half the building's residents there also got a BMW 3-series as well. Next to the Honda Civic, it is the most popular model parked in his garage. I mean, it is still a nice car to drive for the money. He likes it, etc, but it is a fairly common upscale small car in better areas of the GTA. I don' t think it stands out as a head turner.

I noticed now that the weather has turned nice I've seen more than one red Ferrari that has been taken out of winter storage and now spends the days cruising the grid of Bay/Cumberland/Avenue Rd/Yorkville trying to impress the chicks.
 
I've owned a Audi and currently drive a Bimmer. Nothing beats the Audi Quattro system, but in my humble opinion, nothing beats the bimmer's:

- silky smooth and buttery inline 6
- buttery shifts
- near perfect 50/50 weight distribution
- amazing handling
- service at the dealership.

I get treated like gold when I go into BMW Autohaus and I typically only go in once in a while for very minor things or regular service. With and Audi, I should have just moved into the service centre because the piece of shit that it was, was always in the shop. Blown turbos, 100's of electrical issues made it the worst ownership experience I"ve ever had. And top that with service staff that didn't give two shits?

Bimmer comes out on top.

The last argument for BMW's?

Talk to a mechanic for a BM. They praise the machines. Do the same for Audi . They'll admit they're pieces of shit.
 
DGrohl said:
And top that with service staff that didn't give two shits?

They are all pretty much like that.

As to the question at hand, I've never owned either, but the common talk is that Audi has some pretty bad reliability issues.
 
asn said:
of course now that porsche contols 51% of VW who knows what's going to happen.
I was at Porsche factory at the time. They promised the union no change to decision-making, remains with VW board.

Porsche wanted VW so their root won't fall into 'foreign' hands & parts-sharing (4x4). Porsche been buying steady shares for a while. Their big fear - VW own by the French.
 
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alexmst said:
...but my top two choices - Aston Martin DB9 and Rolls Royce Drophead Coupe

great choices. The DB9 is my next purchase. I love that car.