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BMO dividend 10.41%

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bing said:
There is a bank fund, PIC.A, that only invests in the common shares of 5 Canadian banks. Current yield is close to 24%.
How in blazes can the yield be 24% when the real yields are in the 7%-8% range? Is this one of those hybrids where they split the share bewteen dividend and capital appreciation?
 

danmand

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Rockslinger said:
How in blazes can the yield be 24% when the real yields are in the 7%-8% range? Is this one of those hybrids where they split the share bewteen dividend and capital appreciation?
They write call options on the bank stocks.
 

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danmand said:
They write call options on the bank stocks.
Ok got it! Thanks. So, they include the call option premium in the yield. But they lose the upside if the call option ever gets called.
 

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danmand said:
How big a dividend cut would you expect?
I have some friends in banking, I need to have a dinner party to get them talking .

I was short the banks but I covered a while ago. I knew the last quarter earnings would be bad, this quarter I have no idea.
 

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danmand said:
For your information, today the other banks dividend rates are:
TD 7.03%
CM 8.27%
RY 7.35%
BNS 7.48%
The market is predicting those will be cut too, just by less.
 

JohnLarue

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Bankers would rather eat their children than cut the dividend, however if the loan impairments are really bad they will have to cut the dividends
Although the markets may have priced some of this in, if there is a cut look out below
 

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Rockslinger said:
Does anybody know how the stock prices compare to book value? Are the banks selling below book value?

BMO: $32.52
 

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Malibook said:
BMO went up to $27.74 today but now it just broke $26. :eek:
dividend stands at 10.77%
 

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At some point, these stocks have to hit bottom. They can't go down forever. Let's hope the bottom is not zero.
 

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BMO Dividend

The big issue with BMO is that they are paying out about 72% of their earnings in dividends. Banks target the 50% to 60% range. This is not sustainable in the long run, BMO is betting that earnings will improve so they don't have to cut the dividend, the street is saying that won't happen.

I predict no dividend cut but I do think the stock will go lower.
 

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All the financials (well, most anyway) are under pressure because of stuff happening globally. B of M is considered slightly higher risk than some of the other Canadian chartereds therefore yield is higher (price is lower). All about perceived risk I think...not a whole lot to do with dividends per se.

Dividends would only be cut as a very last resort...and no reason so far to think that this will be necessary.

But make your own call on that...my opinion is worth exactly what I have charged.
 

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Andy Stitzer said:
Or not. Nikkei 225
Japan 1989 was the biggest or one of the top 5 biggest bubbles in the history of mankind. The Nikkei was trading at a P/E of 5,000 to 1 and 500 times book value. Also, the value of an acre of land in Tokyo was higher than all of California. Japan is in deep goo because:
1) No natural resources.
2) The Japanese are good at replicating but not good at innovating.
3) Japan is depopulating very quickly. Your grandchildren might have a lot of difficulty finding a genuine Japanese.

For a successful turnaround story, look at BRAZIL.
 

danmand

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Today BMO's dividend stand at 11.21%
 

Worldtraveller6

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Dividend is now 11.08%

We are not at the bottom yet. I plan on calling this one and will back it up with $$$$. Stay tuned.
 
Ashley Madison
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