Blue Jays predictions?

wazup

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I don't see them competing with the top teams. My prediction, host and win the wild card game, lose fairly quickly in the first round to the Royals, might win one game.
 

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I don't see them competing with the top teams. My prediction, host and win the wild card game, lose fairly quickly in the first round to the Royals, might win one game.
Congratulations for being the first to jump off the bandwagon. Can we take it that the Fire Gibby! movement has re-started?
 

gcostanza

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I don't see them competing with the top teams. My prediction, host and win the wild card game, lose fairly quickly in the first round to the Royals, might win one game.
And you couldn't find a way to post this comment in the Blue Jays season thread?

You do know that even very good baseball teams lose 38-44% of their games?
 

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Of all the current playoff teams, who has the best one, two punch as the starters?

The obvious answer is the Los Angeles Dodgers, with Kershaw and Greinke.

After that, who is next?

You can really make the case it is Toronto, with Price and Dickey, who both basically are cannot be hit lately. Dickey is pitching like his Cy Young year. The knuckle-ball moves but they seem all to be strikes. Price pitching like his Cy Young year, which seems usual for him.

Other notable one two punch as starters, the Mets Harvey and deGrom, the Cubs Arrieta and Lester.

The best offensive teams are Toronto, the Mets of all people, St. Louis, Pittsburgh. And those damn Yankees, if they can stay healthy for an old team. Texeria did not play today I don't, in and out of the line up lately.

The Dodgers got a good team, but the offense is inconsistent the second half of the year, and their middle relief is not that good. The Cubs, no middle relief or a closer.

So if I had to choose who is coming out of the National League, I would say the New York Mets or St. Louis. Pittsburgh is a good team, but their starting pitching won't scare anybody after Gerrit Cole. After AJ Burnett went down, yes, that AJ Burnett who use to pitch in the American League, after he went down, he was their number 2 pitcher.

The American League seems more wide open. The most complete teams are Kansas City and Toronto. Those two are the teams to beat, and you want to come out of the AL, you have to beat at least one of them.

The Blue Jays batting order, will be very tough to beat. If an opposing pitcher can shut them down, then right now Toronto has a pitching staff that can go toe to toe with the best.

If the Jays win the division, then it should be Price, Dickey and Estrada.

Texas will probably gain the second wild card, meaning Cole Hamels will be pitching that game. That game will be coin flip.
 

wazup

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My observations.

1. Tulo is a hot dog, defense is great but when there is 2 out he opts to hot dog and throw it to first as opposed to flipping it to 2nd, plus his slump has been long enough that this might be the norm for him, rememeber ricky hendo?

2. Some of their wins have been purely luck, errors etc, with no real bad luck against them, that can't continue.

3. They get consistently dominated by high end starters as opposed to occassionally, 5 of the 9 hitters will get dominated with better pitching, they can crush 3,4,5 starters and they do...

4. Martin in terrible, hell bent on making 2 outs per AB, yesterday when he drove in tulo, was another DP if smoak hadn't doubled.

5. Their offense is based around home runs, hopefully some guys get on for the big boys, tough to do in the playoffs.

6. Best case scenario, they meet the cardinals and I don't see anyone beating them, don't see them beating KC though to get to the WS. This is a WS or bust for them this year.
 

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Not sure if you have been paying attention but the Jays have beat KC three out of four. Clobbered the Angels, clobbered the Twins. Beat the Yankees, beat Cleveland, Beat Texas. All were in WC contention.

They can beat any team out there. I think this may be the most complete team I've seen in decades.
 

gcostanza

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My observations.

1. Tulo is a hot dog, defense is great but when there is 2 out he opts to hot dog and throw it to first as opposed to flipping it to 2nd, plus his slump has been long enough that this might be the norm for him, rememeber ricky hendo?
Two things:
I guess Tulowitzki can't be all conservative and humble like Reyes was in the field.
And just as I write this, there he goes showboating with that 2 run shot in the 3rd inning today.
Rally Killing Home Run!
 

wazup

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Not sure if you have been paying attention but the Jays have beat KC three out of four. Clobbered the Angels, clobbered the Twins. Beat the Yankees, beat Cleveland, Beat Texas. All were in WC contention.

They can beat any team out there. I think this may be the most complete team I've seen in decades.
The only teams that matter in that bunch are kc and the yankess and they were basically splits as two of the wins were pure luck from opposing team errors, beltran drop an easy fly ball and one of the kc wins was a game costing error by the royals. Nobody considers those other teams contenders.

I would say there 6 teams that could win the WS and the jays aren't near the top imo.

Don't think their closers can handle the pressure of the playoffs.
 

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My observations.

1. Tulo is a hot dog, defense is great but when there is 2 out he opts to hot dog and throw it to first as opposed to flipping it to 2nd, plus his slump has been long enough that this might be the norm for him, rememeber ricky hendo?

2. Some of their wins have been purely luck, errors etc, with no real bad luck against them, that can't continue.

3. They get consistently dominated by high end starters as opposed to occassionally, 5 of the 9 hitters will get dominated with better pitching, they can crush 3,4,5 starters and they do...

4. Martin in terrible, hell bent on making 2 outs per AB, yesterday when he drove in tulo, was another DP if smoak hadn't doubled.

5. Their offense is based around home runs, hopefully some guys get on for the big boys, tough to do in the playoffs.

6. Best case scenario, they meet the cardinals and I don't see anyone beating them, don't see them beating KC though to get to the WS. This is a WS or bust for them this year.
Not many people could come up with this type of analysis.
 

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wazup may be teasing the bears cuz he can't be serious about Tulo being a hot dog. Tulo is an old time ball player...does his job. SS is a naturally flashy position so it can look flashy when he makes every play
 

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My observations.

1. Tulo is a hot dog, defense is great but when there is 2 out he opts to hot dog and throw it to first as opposed to flipping it to 2nd, plus his slump has been long enough that this might be the norm for him, rememeber ricky hendo?

2. Some of their wins have been purely luck, errors etc, with no real bad luck against them, that can't continue.

3. They get consistently dominated by high end starters as opposed to occassionally, 5 of the 9 hitters will get dominated with better pitching, they can crush 3,4,5 starters and they do...

4. Martin in terrible, hell bent on making 2 outs per AB, yesterday when he drove in tulo, was another DP if smoak hadn't doubled.

5. Their offense is based around home runs, hopefully some guys get on for the big boys, tough to do in the playoffs.

6. Best case scenario, they meet the cardinals and I don't see anyone beating them, don't see them beating KC though to get to the WS. This is a WS or bust for them this year.
good god almighty the team is 20 games over 500, what kind of stuff would you post if they were "only" battling for a wild card spot?
 

Butler1000

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The only teams that matter in that bunch are kc and the yankess and they were basically splits as two of the wins were pure luck from opposing team errors, beltran drop an easy fly ball and one of the kc wins was a game costing error by the royals. Nobody considers those other teams contenders.

I would say there 6 teams that could win the WS and the jays aren't near the top imo.

Don't think their closers can handle the pressure of the playoffs.
The mark of a championship team is one who doesn't make mistakes but takes advantage of those that do.

And you about the only person on the planet, including several people on teams, who think the Jays aren't legit. One unnamed player on KC stated the one team they didn't want to face was the Jays.

If you don't think playing .750 ball with the team they have doesn't qualify them you really don't understand the game.
 

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I think they are the best team in the American league. I think they can go to the world series. This isn't the same team who played the first 100 games, if this team were to start the season they would have a better record than KC. They may still catch KC by season's end.

Once in the world series anything can happen, who knows? Depends who wins the National.

They have a potential good 1,2,3 now with Price, Estrada, and maybe Stroman (if healthy) or maybe Dickey but both Dickey and Beuhrle scare me a little right now. Somebody aboves comment about them not hitting top flight pitching is the same for every team. Top pitchers do tend to win their games but now we have some pitching of our own and an offence that can wear down other staffs and get into their bullpen.
 

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I don't see them competing with the top teams. My prediction, host and win the wild card game, lose fairly quickly in the first round to the Royals, might win one game.
We'll see about that in late October.
 

wazup

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Overall I was fairly accurate, when you ignore sports fundamentals it comes back to haunt you, I knew they couldn't beat the royals. Better predictions than the rest of you cheerleaders who don't have a clue.
 
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