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Blu-ray Versus HD DVD

What's the rush????

Most people are buying NEITHER
 
data1960 said:
I'd like to buy a High-def dual-format DVD/Hard Drive recorder. With all the content protection crap, I'm not sure they will ever make one. It will be expensive.
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It is just a matter of time before they make one.. the blank media is already available
 
Blu-ray is outselling HD DVD in a big way and has been for months, but Toshiba just launched a sub-200USD HD DVD player, so future adoption could go either way. There are some pricey players compatible with both formats, but the safest bet is to buy nothing until you're confident. Speaking of buying nothing, if you're comfortable using torrents to get movies, high def downloads are becoming more common with 300+ 720p videos (mostly television shows) released this month on thepiratebay.
 
I'm thinking Blu Ray is the clear winner.... better video image 1080p and audio 7.1 I bought a PS3 for the games but it is a fantastic blu ray and dvd upscale movie player.......

OTB
 
Think back to the VHS / Betamax wars, its not necessarily the best technology that wins, but who has the best marketing budget and strategy
 
The same case could be made for Windows/Mac/Linux.
It all comes down to marketing budget and strategy.
 
I wish everyone would just hurry up and jump on the HD DVD bandwagon. The only real advantage I see to blu ray is that the discs hold 50g as opposed to 30g. While the blu-ray discs are outselling HD DVDs... the HD DVD players are flying off the shelves faster only if you don't count the PS3.

The image quality is virtually the same, the sound quality is identical. Blu-ray burns the information closer to the surface of the disc making scratches more likely to render the disc unreadable. HD DVD allows for more interactive content, it also allows for downloadable updates. I just purchased the HD DVD version of heroes, and it has downloadable/updateable content that wouldn't be possible on blu ray.

If people would hurry up and pick a side we'd soon see who the winner is, but as everyone is still sitting on the fence, this may take a while
 
Master_Bates said:
I wish everyone would just hurry up and jump on the HD DVD bandwagon. The only real advantage I see to blu ray is that the discs hold 50g as opposed to 30g. While the blu-ray discs are outselling HD DVDs... the HD DVD players are flying off the shelves faster only if you don't count the PS3.

The image quality is virtually the same, the sound quality is identical. Blu-ray burns the information closer to the surface of the disc making scratches more likely to render the disc unreadable. HD DVD allows for more interactive content, it also allows for downloadable updates. I just purchased the HD DVD version of heroes, and it has downloadable/updateable content that wouldn't be possible on blu ray.

If people would hurry up and pick a side we'd soon see who the winner is, but as everyone is still sitting on the fence, this may take a while
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I'm one of those consumers that Master_Bates hates so much. I'm ready and eager to make the jump to high-definition, but there's no way I'm buying anything until the format war is settled.

Like most people, I don't want to be stuck with a bunch of expensive movies that suddenly become obsolete.

Unlike Master_Bates, I don't blame consumers for this problem. The producers who couldn't reach an agreement on the format are clearly the villains here.

And, sadly, I don't think we can count on the porn producers to settle this one, as they did in the VHS/Beta war way back when. I don't think people would care much about high-definition porn, since most of the American stuff is shot on video cameras. The only porn producers who may have an impact are the Japanese producers, who actually make high-quality movies (God bless Japan).
 
BluRay has strong initial support but all recent signs shows HD-DVD picking up all the momentum. Transformers is only on HD-DVD, which is the no1 dvd to buy this year (so they say), Walmart has jumped on and will soon be carrying a line up of Toshiba's HD-DVD players for the CHristmas season, low prices and BLuRay hasnt yet been able to compete in the affordable price range.

Dreamworks (Shrek, etc) going exclusive HD-DVD. The newer model players all carry full 1080p. And finally, the upcoming triple layer hd-dvds will have 51gb of storage, meaning that HD-DVD will be at least equal in technology to Bluray, only CHEAPER to buy! Sounds good!
 
Someone should point out that it's entirely possible that neither format will replace DVD as a de facto standard. HDTV adoption isn't stellar and alternatives like downloading and streaming movies are strong.
 
Sorry, but unlike the VHS/BetaMax wars (which offered different physical characteristics), the main differences today between HD DVD and Blu-Ray are marketing.

Some studios initially offered their products in both HD DVD and Blu-Ray, even though they had aligned with the development of one or the other technology. More recently, studios are aligning their content with the technology which they had a hand in developing. And I would suggest that it's highly likely that there will be some content available in one format but not the other for the foreseeable future. (Just as there are still some music artists whose catalog is available through some clearinghouses (e.g. iTunes) but not others (e.g. the new Napster.ca).

But neither hi-def format carries "better" quality content than the other: this is purely a question of how the producers of the content have chosen to encode it within the constraints of the equipment currently available.

For example, the first few movies released in hi-def looked better on HD DVD because a better encoding was chosen, not because HD DVD was a better format. Both formats only store data; neither defines the format of that data being stored.

Many (myself included) consider BluRay to be superior because it allows multiple layers (not just two layers, although there are current limitations in the available equipment), theoretically allowing several times the 25-gig or so which can be stored on each layer.

On the other hand, HD DVD has the marketing might of Mighty Microsoft as its primary path to success.
 
Anynym said:
Many (myself included) consider BluRay to be superior because it allows multiple layers (not just two layers, although there are current limitations in the available equipment), theoretically allowing several times the 25-gig or so which can be stored on each layer.

On the other hand, HD DVD has the marketing might of Mighty Microsoft as its primary path to success.
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GOod points, although as i mentioned above, HD-DVD seems to be coming up with a triple layer so the BLuRay advantage will be gone in that aspect. Yeah, the Xbox 360 and HALO 3 will help push HD-DVD this CHristmas for sure. Now, if only they gave away HD-DVD players for free with every purchase of WINdows, we would all be happy (until they get sued for anti-trust again):D
 
I am a Blu Ray subscriber but thats only due to the fact that I am a gamer and had to buy a PS3, and let me tell ya anyone who tells you that its no different from standard DVD is blind, deaf or just lying!!! pop in Black Hawk Down, Troy or Kingdom of Heaven on Blu Ray and you will be blown away, even on my LCD HDTV, and using the tv speakers it is beautiful.

Having said that I am upset when I see movies that I would instantly buy like the Bourne series and Batman Begins only on HD-DVD, I hope they work something out soon.
 
do I need to care about 1080p when shopping for an HD TV? I do not watch a lot of movies...cannot remember if I have even rented one this year. I will use a new HD TV to watch TV shows both series and live sports events.

Also I recently heard that Sony's new pixel technology is "biological" ????? and that it will never suffer from pixels being burned out. This new technology will apparently blow away the other screen technologies....or at least reduce their price. Anyone know what the real story is?

I am thinking of upgrading to HD in February...after the Xmas & Superbowl rushes will mean better prices on anything TV related I think.

One problem will be what to do with my 3 year old 27" Panasonic which is in perfectly good working order.
 
from my research and knowledge anything below 50" screen and you will not notice a huge difference between 1080p and 1080i, I have the latter in a 46" LCD projection form and the pic is absolutely gorgeous, put in a HD PVR and I simply cannot go back to watching sports in regular standard definition.

As for burn out, more relevant in plasma cases but with the improvement in technology its becoming less of an issue, but if one is to play video games I would recommend an LCD in any case.
 
newguy27 said:
GOod points, although as i mentioned above, HD-DVD seems to be coming up with a triple layer so the BLuRay advantage will be gone in that aspect. Yeah, the Xbox 360 and HALO 3 will help push HD-DVD this CHristmas for sure. Now, if only they gave away HD-DVD players for free with every purchase of WINdows, we would all be happy (until they get sued for anti-trust again):D
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Well, sorry, but no. HD DVD is only single layer. Anything based on HD DVD which is multiple layer is, simply, not HD DVD, and won't play in HD DVD players. And there really isn't anybody talking seriously about multi-layer HD DVD (although I'm sure their marketing department would love to confuse the marketplace, as they have clearly confused some consumers). Blu-ray, by contrast, is designed as multi-layer, and although todays equipment is limited, those extensions are very much part of Blu-ray.

HD DVD marketers really don't want anyone to notice that Blu-ray discs have outsold their competition by a ratio of about 3:1 over the past year. Blu-ray marketers don't really want anyone to notice that even with that ratio, just about any single popular movie on DVD has outsold the total of both hi-def formats for all movies over the past year.
 
Anynym said:
Well, sorry, but no. HD DVD is only single layer. Anything based on HD DVD which is multiple layer is, simply, not HD DVD, and won't play in HD DVD players. And there really isn't anybody talking seriously about multi-layer HD DVD (although I'm sure their marketing department would love to confuse the marketplace, as they have clearly confused some consumers). Blu-ray, by contrast, is designed as multi-layer, and although todays equipment is limited, those extensions are very much part of Blu-ray.
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I'm not sure what exactly you're driving at, but Toshiba claims that the 51GB discs are compatible with existing HD-DVD devices.
 
Why the Load time

cypherpunk said:
I'm not sure what exactly you're driving at, but Toshiba claims that the 51GB discs are compatible with existing HD-DVD devices.
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Something really obnoxious about Blue ray I find
The Time it takes to Load a movie, you may say big deal but when you actually use it you will find it is annoying

HD is faster to load and almost as good quality

Some movies downgrade the picture to give them a classic look, this is gay but I can see why actresses and actors want it because you see there flaws and markup lines etc.
 
I AM ON THE FENCE ....WHY ARE WE NOT JUST TAKING A POLE(Go see pole dancers!?) ON THIS. Side note...DRDvix has 1080hd capability...so that means they lean towards the HD end!?
additionally in C-NEt article>>>
"It's going to be 2008 before the dust will really start to settle. For now, it's like watching a yacht race," said Kaufhold, who expects the standards battle will lead more consumers to dual DVD players such as those made by South Korea's LG Electronics, which supports both Blu-ray and HD DVD.

LG makes good shit ...not like Junk Very Cheap > JVC
 
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