Bitcoin: Fake Elon Musk giveaway scam 'cost man £400,000'

bver_hunter

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Wow, we all know about the online scams, but these scammers are coming up with more and more sophisticated schemes to sucker those gullible ones who think that they are due to make a killing!!

Sebastian will always remember the moment he lost £407,000, with equal parts anger and shame.
The night leading up to it had been otherwise forgettable.
He and his wife watched a series on Netflix, before she went to bed and left him on the sofa messing about on his phone.
Then he received a Twitter notification with news from Elon Musk.
Sebastian told the BBC: "Musk tweeted, 'Dojo 4 Doge?' and I wondered what it meant.
"There was a link to a new event below, so I clicked on it and saw that he was giving away Bitcoin!"

Sebastian followed the link to a professional-looking website where the Bitcoin giveaway looked to be in full swing.

There was a timer counting down, and the website promised participants that they could double their money.
The competition was apparently being run by Elon Musk's Tesla team. It invited people to send anything from 0.1 Bitcoin (worth approximately £4,300) to 20 Bitcoin (approximately £860,000), and the team would send back double the amount.
'Take the maximum'
Sebastian double-checked the verification logo next to Elon Musk's name, and then tried to decide whether to send five or 10 Bitcoin.
"'Take the maximum', I thought, this is definitely real, so I sent 10 Bitcoin."
For the next 20 minutes as the timer wound down, Sebastian waited for the prize to land in his Bitcoin wallet.

From his house in Cologne in Germany he sat there refreshing his screen every 30 seconds.

He saw Mr Musk send a fresh cryptic tweet and felt reassured that the giveaway was real.
But slowly the timer on the website ran down to zero, and Sebastian said: "I realised then that it was a big fake.
"I threw my head on to the sofa cushions and my heart was beating so hard. I thought I'd just thrown away the gamechanger for my family, my early retirement fund and all the upcoming holidays with my kids.
"I went upstairs and sat on the edge of the bed to tell my wife. I woke her up and told her that I'd made a big mistake, a really big mistake."
Sebastian, who asked that the BBC didn't use his real name, didn't sleep that night.

Instead, he spent hours emailing the scammer website and tweeting the fake Elon Musk' Twitter account to try to get some or all of his money back.
However, he eventually began to accept the money was gone forever.

133 miles away in Amsterdam, analysts at Whale Alert had watched in horror as Sebastian's 10 Bitcoin were transferred and then cashed out anonymously a few days later.
The blockchain analysis company has tried to get authorities to take action against the scams for months, but says nothing is being done.
The analysts use a public ledger that shows all movement of cryptocurrencies in real time to spot trends and track money.
They have identified which Bitcoin addresses or wallets are operated by so-called "giveaway scammers" and have tracked the increasing amount of money they are making. Sebastian's 10 Bitcoin was the most they'd ever recorded being lost in one transaction.
Record amounts being stolen
Researchers says scammers are making record-breaking sums in 2021. Giveaway gangs have already made more than $18m (£13m) in the first three months of this year, compared with the $16m made in total for the whole of 2020.
Data also suggests the number of victims this year is set to eclipse previous years. In 2020 around 10,500 people fell for the scams, but already this year researchers say they've tracked 5,600 who have sent money.

Whale Alert founder Frank van Weert says it's hard to say why the scams are not only prevailing, but also becoming more successful.
The criminals' actual techniques haven't changed much since the scams emerged in 2018. They create Twitter accounts that look like those of celebrities such as Elon Musk or billionaire investor Chamath Palihapitiya.
In some cases, like the one that tricked Sebastian, the criminals use stolen accounts of prominent people to ensure they have the blue 'verified' tick to make the account seem more trustworthy.
They wait for the real accounts to tweet, and post a reply to make it look like the celebrities have posted the scams to their millions of followers.
Twitter is a popular platform, but giveaway scams can also be found on YouTube, Facebook and Instagram.

Bitcoin market activity
"We don't have any data to explain it, but it could be related to the wider Bitcoin market. When the Bitcoin price goes up, people go crazy and a lot of them are new to the market and they want this idea of quick money," said Mr van Weert.
"It also does sound quite plausible that someone like Elon Musk, a big supporter of cryptocurrency, would give away Bitcoin.
"The people falling for the scams are not uneducated. We've received emails from people who have lost Bitcoin and they are very articulate."
Mr van Weert also feels some of the larger cryptocurrency websites giving away Bitcoin to promote their services may have contributed to people's confusion.
'I'm not an idiot'
Three weeks on and Sebastian is clearly still extremely embarrassed. He starts our email conversation by insisting that he is "normally not the biggest idiot in the whole world".
"I have studied and have a good marketing job in the IT Industry. I live together with my wife and two children and we have a nice house with a garden. I was greedy that night and it made me blind."
The 42-year-old says he first invested $40,000 in Bitcoin in 2017, and quickly made his money back as the value of the coins rose on the open market. He cashed out and got his initial money back, but then watched excitedly over the years as the 10 coins grew to be worth nearly 500,000 euros.
Too easy to steal Bitcoin
Sebastian wants international authorities to take action against the scammers and would like to see the owners of Bitcoin exchanges be proactive in helping.
"It is too easy to steal Bitcoin. All the exchange platform websites should know who their customers are and know if a particular wallet address is being used by thieves."
The most high-profile giveaway scam happened in July 2020, when a large-scale but shortlived Twitter hack allowed scammers to tweet using celebrity accounts like Bill Gates, Kim Kardashian-West and Elon Musk.
In that instance hackers stole more than $118,000 worth of Bitcoin and three people were arrested.

 

explorerzip

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I thought the whole appeal of Bitcoin was that it was free from government interference. Now that people are getting scammed they suddenly want the government to interfere?

Being too greedy is a mistake many people make. Once you make money in stocks, real estate, Bitcoin, etc. then cash out and don't look back. Take the profits and invest into something else.
 

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I thought the whole appeal of Bitcoin was that it was free from government interference. Now that people are getting scammed they suddenly want the government to interfere?
Libertarians are only libertarians until a more dedicated libertarian comes along. :)
 
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Wow that is some story, feel for the mate and his family.
 

explorerzip

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Wow that is some story, feel for the mate and his family.
I'm actually trying to figure out what exactly he lost because the article is ambiguous: "The 42-year-old says he first invested $40,000 in Bitcoin in 2017, and quickly made his money back as the value of the coins rose on the open market. He cashed out and got his initial money back, but then watched excitedly over the years as the 10 coins grew to be worth nearly 500,000 euros."

If he bought $40K worth of bitcoin and cashed out then he should have 0 bitcoin left. He should have $40K plus profits. But where did the remaining 10 bitcoin come from? I suppose he could have mined it or bought again, but it's not explicitly stated.
 

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I'm actually trying to figure out what exactly he lost because the article is ambiguous: "The 42-year-old says he first invested $40,000 in Bitcoin in 2017, and quickly made his money back as the value of the coins rose on the open market. He cashed out and got his initial money back, but then watched excitedly over the years as the 10 coins grew to be worth nearly 500,000 euros."

If he bought $40K worth of bitcoin and cashed out then he should have 0 bitcoin left. He should have $40K plus profits. But where did the remaining 10 bitcoin come from? I suppose he could have mined it or bought again, but it's not explicitly stated.
It sounded to me like he bought more than 10 coins with his initial $40K and when he sold $40K worth to cash out his initial investment he was left with 10 coins as profit.
 

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When I read this: "It invited people to send anything from 0.1 Bitcoin (worth approximately £4,300) to 20 Bitcoin (approximately £860,000), and the team would send back double the amount."

I lost all sympathy for him. How stupid do you have to be to fall for that? A fool and their money are soon parted. I'm amazed he had that much money to begin with.
 

explorerzip

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It sounded to me like he bought more than 10 coins with his initial $40K and when he sold $40K worth to cash out his initial investment he was left with 10 coins as profit.
Oh good point. In that case, he didn't really cash out because he'd be left with 0 coins left. Sounds like he broke even, but continued to hang on to the remaining bitcoins that he got scammed out of.
 

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One reason I hope bitcoin collapses into oblivion (probably won't) is so these scammers get fucked.
 

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When I read this: "It invited people to send anything from 0.1 Bitcoin (worth approximately £4,300) to 20 Bitcoin (approximately £860,000), and the team would send back double the amount."

I lost all sympathy for him. How stupid do you have to be to fall for that? A fool and their money are soon parted. I'm amazed he had that much money to begin with.
Greed will make you do silly things, look what a beautiful women makes us do :D .
 

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When I read this: "It invited people to send anything from 0.1 Bitcoin (worth approximately £4,300) to 20 Bitcoin (approximately £860,000), and the team would send back double the amount."

I lost all sympathy for him. How stupid do you have to be to fall for that? A fool and their money are soon parted. I'm amazed he had that much money to begin with.
Crypto is always going bananas. So it's conceivable that the 10 bitcoins he had left ballooned in value to $400k. That's another classic investing mistake. if an investment goes up in value that quickly then it's time to take profits. It can certainly keep going up, but it can always go down too. Take the profits so you can sleep at night.
 

bver_hunter

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I'm actually trying to figure out what exactly he lost because the article is ambiguous: "The 42-year-old says he first invested $40,000 in Bitcoin in 2017, and quickly made his money back as the value of the coins rose on the open market. He cashed out and got his initial money back, but then watched excitedly over the years as the 10 coins grew to be worth nearly 500,000 euros."

If he bought $40K worth of bitcoin and cashed out then he should have 0 bitcoin left. He should have $40K plus profits. But where did the remaining 10 bitcoin come from? I suppose he could have mined it or bought again, but it's not explicitly stated.
In early 2017 the price of a bitcoin was around $1290. So he must have bought close to 40 bitcoins if he invested $40,000. The price at the end of 2017 went as high as $19,000. Maybe he withdrew close to 30 bitcoins then and left 10 bitcoins. Or he might have withdrawn less than that, and then over the years withdrawn some more bitcoins leaving just 10. That is when he got scammed.
 
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I thought the whole appeal of Bitcoin was that it was free from government interference. Now that people are getting scammed they suddenly want the government to interfere?

Being too greedy is a mistake many people make. Once you make money in stocks, real estate, Bitcoin, etc. then cash out and don't look back. Take the profits and invest into something else.
Advice that's easy to give and hard to follow...
 

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When I read this: "It invited people to send anything from 0.1 Bitcoin (worth approximately £4,300) to 20 Bitcoin (approximately £860,000), and the team would send back double the amount."

I lost all sympathy for him. How stupid do you have to be to fall for that? A fool and their money are soon parted. I'm amazed he had that much money to begin with.
I still have sympathy with him, but he shouldn't be blaming government or the exchanges. This is what Bitcoin is.
But he made a stupid mistake that'll haunt him the rest of his life, and I can have sympathy for that, even if it was his own greed and idiocy that called it down upon him.
 

explorerzip

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Advice that's easy to give and hard to follow...
Oh for sure. The trick is not to get too emotionally attached to any investment. That's much tougher to do if you have most or all of your money in one place like bitcoin.
 

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I have never though that Bitcoin was a wise retirement plan. Now let's see his retirement plan B is...
 
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