I thought this as well.The homeless need a new place to sleep, piss and defecate in I say money well spent.
I thought this as well.The homeless need a new place to sleep, piss and defecate in I say money well spent.
They do have money to provide to "friends of the government" to do a study though...Thing is, it's not like the money has been earmarked for this project. It's just a pipe dream in reality.
I love how the city can't afford the necessary upgrades in public infrastructure but it wants to build a fucking park.
Par for the course in Toronto.
It's not an obstacle. It's been done successfully in Chicago and is a huge money maker there.What about the railway tracks? I bring this up when people mention burying the Gardner, as the railway track embankment is actually a bigger obstacle.
Even though I left Toronto, I'm still 100% in for this idea. Fuck - make it even bigger if possible. If done right, this will be an absolute monument for future generations of GTA kids and future visitors.
Fuck the cost, we waste billions on shit that never materializes. This park decision should be independent from all other City/Province run nightmares. Lack of care and forethought in planning is what holds Toronto and all the surrounding areas back.
Toronto should be the hub and all the GTA cities should have quick access to the hub. This park can serve everyone and we should all be for it.
And today, we are spending millions of dollars on maintaining High Park, Centennial Park and many others that were built out decades ago. Anything we build has to be maintained.The next generation will have to spend millions of dollars on maintanace of this park just like the Gardiner. This park will attract more people=more traffic and Toronto is not ready for more traffic. First need to improve public transit and highways. The traffic in Toronto is only getting worse and worse. I love parks and nature but there are plant of parks around.
Except we're not talking about the Yonge / Bloor area. The proposed park would be above the railway lands between Bathurst and Blue Jays Way.There is a huge network of trails or parks called Don Valley Trails https://www.google.ca/search?ie=UTF...=-LncV62xCJTBqAXco5ioBg#fpstate=lie&gfe_rd=cr.
It's good for mountain biking, walking, running and ect. It's 10 min away from Yonge and Bloor. Huge place and would accommodate all of those people that are looking for some nature. I have seen many deer, rabbits, fox and other animals in there.
Except we're not talking about the Yonge / Bloor area. The proposed park would be above the railway lands between Bathurst and Blue Jays Way.
I think the idea is to build a park within walking distance of the buildings along the Front Street area. Many of those people choose not to own a car. The Don Valley is definitely not walking distanceI meant to say that we have a huge park area less then 10 min away from D.T Toronto
eh? If the gardiner is an obstacle between the downtown and the lake, the railway tracks certainly are too. Look south from the downtown streets - the first thing you see is railway tracks to cross over or under, not the Gardiner. We are so used to it that it does not register.It's not an obstacle. It's been done successfully in Chicago and is a huge money maker there.
It would be a huge magnet for tourists, cover the rail lines which is an eyesore, give families living in City Place a backyard to enjoy, and give therapy for the working stiffs in the core.
Good luck with that.Another interesting idea floated a while ago moves the Gardiner above the railway lands and then puts a park on top of that.
http://www.metronews.ca/news/toronto/2015/09/23/city-receives-proposals-for-a-greener-gardiner.html
Gardiner is fugly.Good luck with that.
How do you propose to hold up the new Gardiner? You can't put columns between the tracks since the tracks are built as closely together so as to just avoid trains smashing into one another. There are 16 tracks coming out of Union Station. Each track is about 14 feet centre to centre. How are you proposing to span 16 x 14' = 224'
Check out the piers that support the Gardiner now. There are columns every 20 feet or so.
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Never mind the billions of dollars (seriously) of buried railway signal infrastructure.
Cheaper to build a Gardiner Expressway tunnel under the lake.





