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125 year old J.M. Schneider Meats closes in Kitchener within 18 months
One of the oldest businesses still around in Canada
Maple Leaf Foods bailed them out in 2007 but it's now over
1,300 jobs lost immediately - more to follow over the next 2 years
Smaller operation to open in Hamilton in 2013 with only 200 jobs
Along with jobs lost at RIM recently it is a real body blow to the region
 
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Manufacturing was hit the hardest in this recession. Very difficult to compete against all this off shore products that keep getting better and better. Quality was the factor where the north american companys could make a case for people to buy North American but now the off shore products a coming upto par with products made here. Even perishable foods are coming from off shore these days. A container ship coming from china can make it to our shore in 4 days! Products getting distributed to stores shelves in another 3. It's tough out there.

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We are losing 90% of our job market here in K-W area! Rim within the next 5 years will also be going out of business they can not keep up with apple any more. They lost of 2.2billion in the fourth quarter of the playbook and with the 2 black berry outages 20% in sales as have gone down for black berry's. This is SAD we have nothing for employment here. just my 2 cents
 

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Just keep shopping at Walmart folks. That's the best way to close out Canadian jobs. It worked in the states.
 

LionHeart

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After the Chinese milk scandal and very unscrupulous business philosophy in China, I refuse to buy any food product from China.
 
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futurelegend

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Right....because that's the solution...stop shopping at Walmart.

I, for one, HATE that store and can't stand going in there, but I'm assuming that you mean stop shopping at all big box stores. So Loblaws (Zehrs) is any better? How about the small grocery stores? They all sell the same product which comes from the same goddamn manufacturers.

The only option to not buy these products is to shop at farmers markets and ensure that you are actually buying local, since many of the vendors there now are also just selling produce, meat, etc that is distributed through a wholesaler.

I am extremely disappointed to see Maple Leaf close the doors here in Kitchener...especially since they continue to use the JM Schneider "history" as a marketing strategy. I do believe that the City of Kitchener could have done more to keep them here, but it's also not the taxpayer's responsibility to keep struggling businesses afloat. Hopefully they can make good use of the land and revitalize that area a bit more to attract new technology based companies to the area, as they're currently doing through the downtown core.
 

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Maple Leaf investing $395 million in Hamilton
Maple Leaf Foods is planning to build a new $395 million processing plant at the Red Hill Industrial Park on the south-east Mountain.

Construction will begin next year on the plant that will make sliced deli meats and hot dogs and is expected to emit minimal odour.

The new facility is slated to be completed in 2014 and employ 670 people.

The move is being touted by city economic development officials, who have been working on the project since January, as one of the largest, if not the single largest private sector investment in the history of Hamilton.

It is also the largest food industry investment in Canada.

The new plant will be built next door to the Maple Leaf-owned Canada Bread facility that recently opened at the industrial park.

Maple Leaf is also building three other new plants across the country and closing several other operations including plants and distribution centres in east Hamilton, Burlington and Kitchener as part of a $560 million modernization plan.


The existing plants will all be closed: Burlington, Hamilton and Kitchener. MLF are investing 560 million into a state of the art facility in South Hamilton's Industrial Area. Hopefully existing employees will be part of the new look MLFs.

RIM will recover, I don't know what it will look like, but they will recover. I empathize with those in the KW area as I've had family, friends and neighbours all lose jobs, homes and relationships over the last decade. In Hamilton, it's health sciences, education, new technologies, smaller manufacturing operations such as MLF and Canada Bread. Arcellor Mittel has flourished. People need to start accepting change because there is going to be alot more in the future.

I had read a business article that claimed Kitchener (1) Hamilton (2) will boom from 2010-2015 that doesn't mean there won't be losses just changes. Hamilton has had a rough turn of the century and should accept that manufacturing of steel isn't steel town's ecomonic base just as Kitchener shouldn't simply rely on RIM.

One point that the great business minds of terb routinely make is streamlining. Well MLFs is streamlining and from this, there will be future growth and expansion, just remember the job for life scenario is no more.
 

billyboy2

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I am enjoying this thread. At the risk of making light of a serious topic I need to ask - "should we, therefore boycot Asian SP's? LOL
 

nicole1

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Search for Occupy Toronto on youtube, or internet, many protesters are gathering....
 

Ibeefat

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125 year old J.M. Schneider Meats closes in Kitchener within 18 months
One of the oldest businesses still around in Canada
Maple Leaf Foods bailed them out in 2007 but it's now over
1,300 jobs lost immediately - more to follow over the next 2 years
Smaller operation to open in Hamilton in 2013 with only 200 jobs
Along with jobs lost at RIM recently it is a real body blow to the region

It was bound to happen eventually, the running cost of this place was enormous, plus not to mention that half the employees there were uneducated idiots.. I worked there as a contractor installing machinery and all I heard half the time was.. "I dont wanna do that, its not my job". Personally I am not against unions but if you are making a decent wage, why the fuck would you complain about what you have to do. But then again, your dealing with grade 2 educated people.
 

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We are losing 90% of our job market here in K-W area! Rim within the next 5 years will also be going out of business they can not keep up with apple any more. They lost of 2.2billion in the fourth quarter of the playbook and with the 2 black berry outages 20% in sales as have gone down for black berry's. This is SAD we have nothing for employment here. just my 2 cents
On the plus side, with unemployment on the rise, SP's will have to charge less to stay in business or competitive. :)

But in all seriousness, the closing of Schneider's was a blow to the community and all KW residents. True KW residents will be disappointed about it. Part of our history and identity gone, or leaving once operations are moved.
 

cyberblip

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It is definitely sad to see Schneider's go like others before...I don't think that RIM is leaving the area unless they are bought out by another company, they might not be the hot tech company that they once were, but they still have a solid customer base in business and government (other mobile device security doesn't really exist) and are expanding in other parts of the world, the consumer mobile market is all about the latest fad and who knows who will be on top in 6 months...business based on innovative technology and products that require a skilled workforce will be what sustains the economy in the future...

My two cents
 

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Some may have heard that the city of Kitchener actually has development plans that require the Schneider's factory land.

I don't like seeing anyone out of a job, especially neighbours, but:

The plant is a fossil, and a logistical nightmare of inefficiency.......take a tour......it won't take long for you to wonder how it's still "competing". (the only hope I had since the first negative publicity with the plant was that somehow Maple Leaf would keep the plant around to make commercials about heritage......but touring the facility, it would be very tough to film....)

And, did everyone forget about the sabotage plant employees performed to damage the company's reputation and profitability (conservatively estimated in the 100's of millions)?
 

Smitty82

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LOL this thread is hilarious. Honestly, there's a few people who need a reality check here... how the hell can you preach about not shopping at Wal-Mart, or only buying local products??? 1) we're in a recession (so people tend to try and save money where the can) 2) would YOU be willing to take a huge pay-cut if you were in the manufacturing sector just to compete with the asian manufacturers? Not bloody likely. 3) in case you weren't aware, Wal-Mart does hire local people (they don't import their employees from China too). 4) the Unions protecting the manufacturing sectors need to be disbanded... what makes a grade 9 educated assembly line worker in an auto plant worth $40+ per hour to push a button or turn a screw all day long? They're just too damn greedy and they've successfully contributed to the recession we're in now. Not the only cause(s) but still... stop preaching and trying to make it sound so simple. (and in case you're curious, I have no affilliation with Wal-Mart in any way past or present aside from buying my underwear there cuz it's CHEAPER, I'm actually a fully licensed carpenter)
 

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Recently came back from korea. Trademans in the plant were making 39.00 dollars an hour. Assembly line workers are making a good living too. All drove nice cars in the parking lots. Now back in the 90's most people had a chance to work in the auto plant sector if they chose, because the goverment had the auto pact. 65% percent of the cars had to be built in Canada. That created a lot of jobs, god paying jobs from the uneducated to the educated. Now almost every country canada has fought against are dumping their cars on us. Japan only lets a few noth american cars into their country but we get thousands of theirs. The germans are dumping theirs, also the koreans and soon the chinese and indians. I would be ashamed to drive any of those cars around on rememberance day. So thanks to all you people who drive those cars, and shop at wallmart, you are the ones who will turn this country into a thied world country. Buy foreign and watch your kids grow up in the basement with no job. Even though they went college or university. Think about real hard.
 

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Yes, but let's face it, if you had the money to buy a new car, assuming you worked and saved, not handed to you, wouldn't you buy Japanese vs. American ?
 
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