Biden vs trump
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@mitchell76 omg, omg, omg, you have to listen to this. Your dear messiah is in trouble if Chis is correct, which I think he is. He was a former heavyweight (not referring to his waistline) prosecutor.
I can't understand how he can praise HAMAs after they murder innocent jews and somehow isn't called out for it by anyone. The jews actually celebrated Trump the other day. It's beyond reason.
It's not just bad news for Joe it's bad news for America, Canada and everywhere that is not MAGAt infested
No, of course not.
The question is whether those people will now vote at all. Without their votes Biden likely loses.
At present, Biden's policy with Israel has handed trump the election.
Remember when Bush the neocon denounced Israel for killing 7 civilians during a Hamas assassination?
Biden said nothing after 400 were killed.
Nobody in their right mind believes these numbers. Literally numbers provided by terrorists. Jesus…
It would be interesting if that happened. The whole world is gonna go into some fucked up “might is right“ and “have vs havenots” mode. Authoritarians everywhere are going to get cocky. It’ll be dark.
Totally false.
Hamas and Palestinians have been accurately reporting the numbers killed by Israel in Gaza for 17 years.
They have a very, very long history of reporting deaths and having those numbers confirmed by international third parties.
The problem in Jabilia is how do count the bodies when apartment buildings are turned into craters and there is nothing left.
How long will it take to dig through the wreckage to find out how many women and children Israel killed this time.
Yes, there is a good chance that Biden backing Israel could lead the world in that direction.
Unless we can end the cycle of violence.
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I think the argument is that people who are upset Biden is showing support for Israel would rather vote for Trump, who is showing more support for Israel.
unfortunately the argument is they will not vote at all
That is a possibility.
Voting rates in the US are already bad and there are always people trying to convince people not to vote for one stupid reason or another.
not really that stupid of a reason. I consider myself to be fairly centrist and I would hate to vote for a party of trump because he's a criminal or for a party of tlaib because she is a radical. The squad seems to be kept more on a leash than maga, maybe that's why dems are still better.
But not voting accomplishes nothing useful.
Unless you truly feel there is absolutely no difference in outcomes you expect from either party in any way, then not voting gets you nothing.
The whole "A vote is an representation of my inner preferences" is useless nonsense in a voting system that is as broken as a FPTP one is.
You have the additional problem that in a race between Trump and Biden, not voting for Biden because you dislike Trump and Tlaib is incoherent.
She's not running for the position you are voting on.
yeah it'd be an easy choice and I'd easily go waste a few hrs to vote against trump if I was american. But if it was not trump while tlaib and the squad would become as powerful as maga, then depending on how far the pendulum would swing maybe I'd not bother voting.
I remain baffled by anyone thinking "I wouldn't bother voting" is a at all a good decision outside of a few fanatics who truly are single issue voters (which is not a good sign of a solid grasp on reality).
But it is what it is.
I'll drop it.
When your choice is shitty and shittier sometimes is best not to support either.
Maybe there will be other protest votes available, green party, communists, pastafarians.
But if you're Muslim, how could you vote for either rump or Biden now?
