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Biden issues pre-emptive pardons in final hours for Anthony Fauci, Liz Cheney, Milley and others

Dutch Oven

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These preemptive pardons are pure political theater. Trump has the House and the Senate. He can move his agenda forward. He can't seek re-election. He won't bother chasing people who likely won't even live long enough to see their rightful places inside of a prison. Shameful move by Biden, but only on a moral analysis. There is no practical value to these pardons.
 

Valcazar

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These preemptive pardons are pure political theater. Trump has the House and the Senate. He can move his agenda forward. He can't seek re-election. He won't bother chasing people who likely won't even live long enough to see their rightful places inside of a prison. Shameful move by Biden, but only on a moral analysis. There is no practical value to these pardons.
Why on Earth would Trump not pursue people?
It costs him next to nothing.
I agree there is very little practical value to the pardons though.
Making up new reasons to go after someone is easy, and you can always go after them in other ways than criminal prosecutions.
 

Dutch Oven

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Fauci is a corrupt, dishonest, dishonourable, power hungry liar and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for crimes against humanity.
And he's a baseball fan who can't throw a ball as well as an average 6 year old!

 

Mr.Gr33k

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Let's see, off the top of my head.

There was the various nonsense from Durham, including his lying.
That was targeted at Hillary Clinton of course, even if he couldn't get to her in the end.
There were the various side channels going after the Bidens.
There were the IRS audits of his enemies, and the DOJ IG investigations used to fire people without due process.
Special investigations by US attorneys (more going after Hillary there).

You're setting the bar too high with "prosecutions".
That Trump wasn't very GOOD at it in his first term, often due to pushback within the system, doesn't mean he didn't do it.
I know that using Trump's incompetence as a defence is pretty common, but I've never accepted it as a valid one.
That's the thing with false narrative and corrupt mainstream media. You know that Trump went after his opponents and opposition, but you can't give any names. What a pickle.

From the top of my head:
- illegal surveillance of Trump election camp in 2016
- Steele dossier (supposedly verified as true by intelligence agencies)
- Russia Russia Russia
- Dems set up Michael Flynn immediately after Trump was sworn in
- Comey goes after Trump shortly after inauguration
- constant leaks and anonymous sources shitting on Trump and his administration
- 2 impeachment attempts
- dozens of madeup lawsuits
- Steve Bannon was jailed (hope I'm getting his name right and I don't remember reasons why he was put away)
- countless investigations
- Jan 6
- Mar A Lago raid
- villifying Trump in every MSM, Trump is a threat to democracy narrative, Nazi etc
- assassination attempts
.... etc etc etc
 
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Conil

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This is unprecedented. Why pardon innocent? Unless there's a bigger conspiracy here with White House being complicit. Definitely an abuse of power.




That's crazy, how is that even legal? Trump should pardon himself and his friends for all the future possible cases.
 

kherg007

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False and false.

Trump had every opportunity to pursue his political opponents but took a high road.

He didn't go after Hilary, Comey and many others. Actions speak louder that words.

And you just proved my point.
Yes his party did his dirty work. Remember Whitewater, and Hilary testifying for 11 hours on Benghazi, Trump attacking McCabe and those other FBI , firing Comey and bragging to the Russians about it. And Hunter Biden, who if he was an ordinary bloke would not have been through the gauntlet.
 

Mr.Gr33k

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Yes his party did his dirty work. Remember Whitewater, and Hilary testifying for 11 hours on Benghazi, Trump attacking McCabe and those other FBI , firing Comey and bragging to the Russians about it. And Hunter Biden, who if he was an ordinary bloke would not have been through the gauntlet.
- For one, Hillary Clinton deleted thousands of emails from a classified server thus committing a federal crime. She could've and should've been prosecuted for this alone, however Trump is on record saying that he didn't want to prosecute her to get some well deserved vengeance

- if a person's name wasn't Biden, he/she would've been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for taking foreign funds/bribes, for being on the board of directors of a foreign company where a person has zero value/knowledge/expertise except having an access to a US influential political figure and not paying income taxes. If a name wasn't Biden, a person would be arrested and prosecuted for a fraction of things that Hunter did, including drug use and possession, obtaining firearm illegally etc
 
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