Biden issues pre-emptive pardons in final hours for Anthony Fauci, Liz Cheney, Milley and others

[Dutch Oven]

These preemptive pardons are pure political theater. Trump has the House and the Senate. He can move his agenda forward. He can't seek re-election. He won't bother chasing people who likely won't even live long enough to see their rightful places inside of a prison. Shameful move by Biden, but only on a moral analysis. There is no practical value to these pardons.

 

[Valcazar]

These preemptive pardons are pure political theater. Trump has the House and the Senate. He can move his agenda forward. He can't seek re-election. He won't bother chasing people who likely won't even live long enough to see their rightful places inside of a prison. Shameful move by Biden, but only on a moral analysis. There is no practical value to these pardons.

Why on Earth would Trump not pursue people?
It costs him next to nothing.
I agree there is very little practical value to the pardons though.
Making up new reasons to go after someone is easy, and you can always go after them in other ways than criminal prosecutions.

 

[smurf]

Why should they be subject to the big pumpkins political revenge?

Exactly. 45/47 has done and will do the same with his supporters/cronies.

 

[Bucksnort]

Fauci is a corrupt, dishonest, dishonourable, power hungry liar and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for crimes against humanity.

 

[Bucksnort]

LMAO

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881363897330086181

The Democrats invented the word:

Hypocrisy is when someone says one thing but does another. It can also refer to pretending to have beliefs or qualities that someone doesn't actually have.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Fauci is a corrupt, dishonest, dishonourable, power hungry liar and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for crimes against humanity.

And he's a baseball fan who can't throw a ball as well as an average 6 year old!

 

[Mr.Gr33k]

Let's see, off the top of my head.

There was the various nonsense from Durham, including his lying.
That was targeted at Hillary Clinton of course, even if he couldn't get to her in the end.
There were the various side channels going after the Bidens.
There were the IRS audits of his enemies, and the DOJ IG investigations used to fire people without due process.
Special investigations by US attorneys (more going after Hillary there).

You're setting the bar too high with "prosecutions".
That Trump wasn't very GOOD at it in his first term, often due to pushback within the system, doesn't mean he didn't do it.
I know that using Trump's incompetence as a defence is pretty common, but I've never accepted it as a valid one.

That's the thing with false narrative and corrupt mainstream media. You know that Trump went after his opponents and opposition, but you can't give any names. What a pickle.

From the top of my head:
- illegal surveillance of Trump election camp in 2016
- Steele dossier (supposedly verified as true by intelligence agencies)
- Russia Russia Russia
- Dems set up Michael Flynn immediately after Trump was sworn in
- Comey goes after Trump shortly after inauguration
- constant leaks and anonymous sources shitting on Trump and his administration
- 2 impeachment attempts
- dozens of madeup lawsuits
- Steve Bannon was jailed (hope I'm getting his name right and I don't remember reasons why he was put away)
- countless investigations
- Jan 6
- Mar A Lago raid
- villifying Trump in every MSM, Trump is a threat to democracy narrative, Nazi etc
- assassination attempts
.... etc etc etc

 

[Conil]

This is unprecedented. Why pardon innocent? Unless there's a bigger conspiracy here with White House being complicit. Definitely an abuse of power.

Biden pardons Fauci, Milley and the Jan. 6 panel. It's a guard against potential 'revenge' by Trump

The heads of the Jan. 6 committee say they're grateful for the decision by President Joe Biden to pardon them “not for breaking the law but for upholding it.”

apnews.com

That's crazy, how is that even legal? Trump should pardon himself and his friends for all the future possible cases.

 

[kherg007]

False and false.

Trump had every opportunity to pursue his political opponents but took a high road.

He didn't go after Hilary, Comey and many others. Actions speak louder that words.

And you just proved my point.

Yes his party did his dirty work. Remember Whitewater, and Hilary testifying for 11 hours on Benghazi, Trump attacking McCabe and those other FBI , firing Comey and bragging to the Russians about it. And Hunter Biden, who if he was an ordinary bloke would not have been through the gauntlet.

 

[Mr.Gr33k]

Yes his party did his dirty work. Remember Whitewater, and Hilary testifying for 11 hours on Benghazi, Trump attacking McCabe and those other FBI , firing Comey and bragging to the Russians about it. And Hunter Biden, who if he was an ordinary bloke would not have been through the gauntlet.

- For one, Hillary Clinton deleted thousands of emails from a classified server thus committing a federal crime. She could've and should've been prosecuted for this alone, however Trump is on record saying that he didn't want to prosecute her to get some well deserved vengeance

- if a person's name wasn't Biden, he/she would've been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for taking foreign funds/bribes, for being on the board of directors of a foreign company where a person has zero value/knowledge/expertise except having an access to a US influential political figure and not paying income taxes. If a name wasn't Biden, a person would be arrested and prosecuted for a fraction of things that Hunter did, including drug use and possession, obtaining firearm illegally etc

 

[jimiagain]

Why should they be subject to the big pumpkins political revenge?

You sound mad

 

[jimiagain]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881383710521483330

Fuck sleepy Joe!

 

[Skoob]

Sadly, this is probably true.
This may protect them from Trump's DOJ (that's far from certain) but he and his crew have many other ways to harass them.

Isn't karma a wonderful thing?

 

[Skoob]

Well Done Joe! It would have been a tragedy to leave these folks unprotected with Trump and his crazy hand-picked cabinet coming in. Patel is a nutbag.

Unprotected from what?
I mean, they have nothing to hide right?

 

[Skoob]

Fauci should be protected from Trump's COVID witch hunt.
The man did his job admirably during a time of crisis.

Then he has nothing to worry about right?

 

[Skoob]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881383710521483330

How horrific were the things the Dems were doing that you have to issue proactive pardons to your own family and others?

 

[Skoob]

That's the thing with false narrative and corrupt mainstream media. You know that Trump went after his opponents and opposition, but you can't give any names. What a pickle.

From the top of my head:
- illegal surveillance of Trump election camp in 2016
- Steele dossier (supposedly verified as true by intelligence agencies)
- Russia Russia Russia
- Dems set up Michael Flynn immediately after Trump was sworn in
- Comey goes after Trump shortly after inauguration
- constant leaks and anonymous sources shitting on Trump and his administration
- 2 impeachment attempts
- dozens of madeup lawsuits
- Steve Bannon was jailed (hope I'm getting his name right and I don't remember reasons why he was put away)
- countless investigations
- Jan 6
- Mar A Lago raid
- villifying Trump in every MSM, Trump is a threat to democracy narrative, Nazi etc
- assassination attempts
.... etc etc etc

The Dems, and liberals in general, are great at accusing others of what they themselves do...and what they themselves do is typically worse.

For example:

The Trump-hating cartoonist Darrin Bell:

...and now:

Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist Darrin Bell arrested over suspected child sex abuse material
https://news.sky.com/story/pulitzer...r-suspected-child-sex-abuse-material-13291265

 

[The Oracle]

That's a hilarious statement to make given Trump's promise to once again weaponize the DOJ.


That has, indeed, been the Republican/Conservative movement playbook for decades now.

When did he promise to ''weaponize'' the DOJ?..I find that kind of amusing considering what Alvin Bragg and Letitia James were up to the last few years.

 

[bazokajoe]

You sound mad

No not at all.

 

[kherg007]

- For one, Hillary Clinton deleted thousands of emails from a classified server thus committing a federal crime. She could've and should've been prosecuted for this alone, however Trump is on record saying that he didn't want to prosecute her to get some well deserved vengeance

- if a person's name wasn't Biden, he/she would've been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for taking foreign funds/bribes, for being on the board of directors of a foreign company where a person has zero value/knowledge/expertise except having an access to a US influential political figure and not paying income taxes. If a name wasn't Biden, a person would be arrested and prosecuted for a fraction of things that Hunter did, including drug use and possession, obtaining firearm illegally etc

He led chants on lock her up for God's sake. But the DOJ did not persue as they said they would not have given the specifics of the case.

Second, hunter was not convicted of bribes. He was not a government official whom upon leaving the govt got $2b from the saudis. He was a dopey idiot son who parlayed his name, like ivanka trump, jared kushner, Billy Carter, Roger Clinton, Neil Bush, Spiro Agnew, and the Trump boys for money.
Remember Trump has a long record of fraud. That's a court and jury's opinion. His campaign manager, advisors, cfo, attorney are all felons.

Courts require testimony under oath. Fox news appearances do not.