Enough has been said about her defection to Liberal since yesterday. I don't think this is realy a big loss for the Conservative. IMO, what is really significant is if this indicates that the Harper has learned to accomodate the views of the moderate Conservatives. Until then, the Conservative will have a tough time to gain grounds east fo Manitoba .This is exactly the reason, I did think the surge in Conservatives' popularity a month ago, would be substained. Your thoughs ?
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Harper's surge in popularity a month ago was fueled by anger at the Liberals over the Gomery allegations. This is levelling out and Harper has now dropped quite a bit. A Strategic Counsel poll taken May 12 to 15, before Belinda ditched the New PC's, shows the Liberals up 9 points in Ontario to 43%. They're also ahead nationwide 33% to 30% for the Conservatives.ice_dog said:
http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116374403924_130?hub=Canada
Belinda had criticised Harper in a Globe and Mail article and they had a heated exchange over it. Whether that means Harper is unable to accomodate moderate voices in his party is anyone's guess. If he can't, he'll remain a western niche player. I'd like to have a conservative option but I can't see Harper as the one to break into Ontario and speak to the vast majority of moderate Canadians. Belinda apparently can't see it either.
Heard an interview with BS boyfriend Peter ...something.
He even didn't know,that she has turned to the darkside of the force
. I would like to there pillowtalk tonight.
Unless he dumped here, or she him.
Maybe i should put my hat in the ring for her????
He even didn't know,that she has turned to the darkside of the force
. I would like to there pillowtalk tonight.Unless he dumped here, or she him.
Maybe i should put my hat in the ring for her????
I wonder who exactly these moderate conservatives are, or how many actually exist among the electorate. The CP has already bent over backwards to accomodate the so-called "moderates", in the process taking positions which if anything would qualify the party as far-left in other English-speaking countries. The bottom line is that anyone who thinks the party isn't moderate enough already would vote Liberal anyways, leading me to think that this category of "moderate Conservative" is little more than a Liberal/media fiction invented to facilitate the claim that the Conservatives are "alienating" this (largely imaginary) group and are therefore "extremist".ice_dog said:
Moreover, nothing the CP does is ever going to stop these accusations, especially with the tactically brilliant adoption of American conspiratism on the part of Liberal propagandists. Harper could get a sex change, have a gay marriage on national TV, and campaign to outlaw money- and the Libs would just say that was proof of his "hidden agenda" of right-wing extremism
He's definitely dumped. And very upset about how she did it.langeweile said:Heard an interview with BS boyfriend Peter ...something.
He even didn't know,that she has turned to the darkside of the force
Unless he dumped here, or she him.
Maybe i should put my hat in the ring for her????
Poor Peter
...another victim of the "pussy is a comodity" myth that is perpetuated in boards like this one.
...another victim of the "pussy is a comodity" myth that is perpetuated in boards like this one.
Sorry man, Belinda likes guys who can type a paragraph free of typoslangeweile said:Heard an interview with BS boyfriend Peter ...something.
He even didn't know,that she has turned to the darkside of the force
Unless he dumped here, or she him.
Maybe i should put my hat in the ring for her????
(Couldn't resist)Please enlighten us and let us know just what the CP has done to bend over backwards. What policies do you see as being too left wing?Truncador said:
Wrong....she likes guys with big dicks(me) or a lot of power.(Martin)newinottawa said:Sorry man, Belinda likes guys who can type a paragraph free of typos
Without bringing my own preferences into it, the party takes a number of positions which, by American standards, would put the party to the left of even the Howard Dean tendency of the Democrats. Among others,John_mykytyshyn said:
-missile defense
-guns. The party seems utterly indifferent to restoring gun rights beyond undoing the gun registry (which nobody really supports anymore). In the country otherwise more similar to ours than any other, even John Kerry pretended to support gun rights.
-abortion
-gay marriage. This one is particularly baffling in that everyone knows the real issue here is whether Conservative or Liberal values are the values of the nation as a whole (come to think of it, that's equally true for guns and abortion as well). The best the CP can do is to say that Parliament and not the Courts should decide.
-health care. It is rather odd to see a "conservative" party fail to rise to the occasion to challenge the outright communist health care system here- the only genuinely communist social program in the developed world.
-religion. The Party leadership keeps its faith in the closet, which even Tony Blair of the Labour Party in England does not do.
..all I see is some rich bitch who never really had to work a day in her life. Ya ya she was the president of the company, well she was the president of the holding company. Which those in financial fields know usually means she did diddley squat. Now all of a sudden someone who has no experience whatsoever has a cabinet position.
As well, she is even worst then Dubya for simply repeating the same lines over and over, never straying from her sound bites. Her press conferences are pathetic.
God help us all if this idiot ever becomes Prime Minister. She will sell Canada down the river to the Yanks.
As well, she is even worst then Dubya for simply repeating the same lines over and over, never straying from her sound bites. Her press conferences are pathetic.
God help us all if this idiot ever becomes Prime Minister. She will sell Canada down the river to the Yanks.
