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Mandala

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The more I think about this quote about free will the more I understand it to be true
except for the infinity thing as there is a cause of all causes that itself, by definition,
cannot be caused and that original cause of all causes has to be a God that has
always been and will always be because it was never caused


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Mandala

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. "
Supposedly Voltaire.
Sounds like religion.

Only religion can make good people do bad things in the name of goodness



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Like Einstein, I am a Spinoza fan

I read this as meaning everyting is made by God, therefore God is in everything so it is impossible to escape God as even a perfect vacuum is Gods creation

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The more I think about this quote about free will the more I understand it to be true
except for the infinity thing as there is a cause of all causes that itself, by definition,
cannot be caused and that original cause of all causes has to be a God that has
always been and will always be because it was never caused


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If there is an original cause and then other causes then the result is predetermined and there is no free will
 

kherg007

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Here's another from Bertrand Russell, in essence anticipating the Dunning-Kruger effect:

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt."
 
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Mandala

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If there is an original cause and then other causes then the result is predetermined and there is no free will
Thomas Aquinas five proofs of God

First proof is the original cause or unmoved mover or prime mover or the cause of all causes

Leads to the philosophical argument that we do not have free will as even the belief that you have free will is predetermined by previous causes
 
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