Bell making Internet clients pay $2 a month to get bills in the mail

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Fuckem, happy I left them years ago...not a big deal but primus gives you 50 cents for electronic billing.




Bell Canada is telling Internet customers to switch to electronic billing by June 1 or face a $2 monthly charge for paper bills.

The decision to add fees for mailed invoices is “part of our ongoing effort to be environmentally friendly and improve the level of billing information,” Bell said.

Many customers suspect it’s a move to boost profits for Bell’s parent BCE, Canada’s largest communications company.

“If Bell is saving $2 a month by not sending paper statements to customers, you’d think it would deduct $2 a month from customers’ bills instead of pocketing the money,” says Marc Zwelling.

Offering a $2 discount to go to e-billing “would be a great marketing tool,” said Omer Cormier.

Bell’s email updates about paper bills, which began going out last week, have ignited a controversy about negative option billing.

It’s similar to what I heard about Direct Energy’s new water heater contracts (later withdrawn). People feel it’s unfair to impose new fees automatically if they don’t take action by a certain date.

Bell is giving people 60 days to respond. The legal minimum is 30 days, says spokesman Jason Laszlo.

Customers are told to go to Bell’s website and select only the box that says, “I want to receive an e-bill.”

If there is no contact by June 1, Bell says, “we will continue to deliver your paper bills and the $2 fee will apply.”

Telus Mobility and subsidiary Koodo already make clients pay $2 a month for paper bills. New wireless carriers, such as Wind, Mobilicity and Public, also charge for paper bills and in-store payments.

Rogers charges $2 a month, but only to new wireless clients and those who make price changes to an existing wireless plan. They’re told they can opt for free e-bills at point of sale, says spokeswoman Leigh-Ann Popek.

Bell has been charging wireless clients $2 a month for paper bills since 2009 and started charging new residential customers (with home phone, Internet and TV accounts) last December.

“We plan to extend this approach to existing Bell Internet customers in June. But there are no plans right now to bring paperless billing to existing landline customers,” says Laszlo.

What if you’re uncomfortable monitoring your accounts electronically?

Customers identified with a visual disability are not charged, Bell says. Rogers makes exceptions for clients who have “extenuating circumstances” on a case-by-case basis, Popek says.

Threatening to take your business elsewhere can be an effective tactic — since Internet service is a competitive market.

When Frank Woit told Bell he’d look for another provider if the change went through, he was offered a $24 credit on his phone bill.

“There are lots of choices out there, including going strictly wireless,” Woit said. “It’s sad to see these companies milk their customers.”

Online billing offers clients new account management features, Laszlo said, since it’s available immediately at all hours of the day and night.

“Based on experience with new residential and mobility customers, most opt for online,” he explained.

“Any savings we may see are reinvested in our networks and services. Communications is a highly capital-intensive business.

“Bell consistently spends $3 billion in wireless and wire line network expansions and upgrades — far more than any other communications company in Canada.”

President’s Choice Financial, an online bank, went 100 per cent paperless back in 2003. It soon offered the option of mailed statements for $1 a month — and still has the same fee.

TD Canada Trust is now starting to charge customers for paper bills and transactions using a passbook.

“Most of our customers see the benefit,” says TD spokeswoman Barbara Timmins, “About four in five new accounts choose paperless over receiving a printed monthly statement.”

Let’s be honest here. The environment isn’t the major beneficiary of paperless record-keeping.

Companies introduce electronic billing to cut their paper and mailing costs. Once they admit it, they can introduce incentives to make people switch instead of forcing it upon them.

Ellen Roseman writes about personal finance and consumer issues. You can reach her at eroseman@thestar.ca or www.ellenroseman.com


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Powershot

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It's stupid, but way better than a $2 convenience charge for online billing and payments..
 

Butler1000

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Ya great. My 80 year old mother in law who lives in a condo will now now be charged more. She isn't internet savvy at all. Still pays bills by mail. Nice to see them screwwing all the elderly out there. How many of them don't even own computers I wonder. I may have to take over her bill payments for her in the future.
 

d_jedi

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Let’s be honest here. The environment isn’t the major beneficiary of paperless record-keeping.

Companies introduce electronic billing to cut their paper and mailing costs. Once they admit it, they can introduce incentives to make people switch instead of forcing it upon them.
This.
$2 isn't really worth getting up in arms for.. but please, cut the bullshit. It's not about saving the environment or whatever nonsense they're touting.
 

Gentle Ben

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$2 isn't really worth getting up in arms for.. but please, cut the bullshit. It's not about saving the environment or whatever nonsense they're touting.
You're right, its not the environment but rather their bottom line.
You know as well that $2.00 will become $2.50, $3.00. $5.00 and so on.
 

shack

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You're right, its not the environment but rather their bottom line.
You know as well that $2.00 will become $2.50, $3.00. $5.00 and so on.
It's like when a hotel asks you to reuse your towels to help the environment.

If they were so concerned maybe they could take a buck or two per day off my bill especially since they are saving money. Until then they have no credibility with me. Bring me fresh towels.
 

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no big deal. I set up my Bell Internet bill to be auto charged to my credit card. The credit card gives me a paper record. But with Bell I also check online periodically my my data usage so its easy to my payment. Anyone using the internet should get more comfortable using electronic billing anyways.

Ya great. My 80 year old mother in law who lives in a condo will now now be charged more. She isn't internet savvy at all. Still pays bills by mail. Nice to see them screwwing all the elderly out there. How many of them don't even own computers I wonder. I may have to take over her bill payments for her in the future.
As to those elderly who don't even own a computer, they are already getting screwed if they set up an internet account with no computer, unless they're using it for their Ipad :D
 

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Ya great. My 80 year old mother in law who lives in a condo will now now be charged more. She isn't internet savvy at all. Still pays bills by mail. Nice to see them screwwing all the elderly out there. How many of them don't even own computers I wonder. I may have to take over her bill payments for her in the future.
This is the sticky end. Those of us who do the 'puter thing are really just grousing. Calling up an on-line bill is only a little less convenient† than getting the envelope out of the mailbox and doing all the ripping and reading. But for folks who do not use/have internet connections, it's a bit like telling you to come down to the office to look up and pay your bill. Very horse and buggy.

†I do exaggerate. If you use the various password-cheating strategies and widgets, on-line might be convenient. But if you do not … , navigating from outside Bell's security perimeter to the bill they've kindly e-mailed me about (they can't seem to actually email the bill itself) is pure torture. Clearly, though they have graphics designers aplenty they have yet to hire their first competent site designer.
 

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As to those elderly who don't even own a computer, they are already getting screwed if they set up an internet account with no computer, unless they're using it for their Ipad :D
lmao
 

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Rogers $2 is donated to an education program of some type if I am not mistaken. They do not keep the money and it is a way to go green.

I didn't like it at first, but it did make me switch to online billing and I now prefer it that way.

I do agree for visually disabled, elderly etc there should be a choice, but if the money is donated and exceptions are made for those who need it, I have no issue with this.
 

wigglee

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when will people fight back and boycott both Rogers and Bell who have been fucking us royally for years?
 

simon482

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when will people fight back and boycott both Rogers and Bell who have been fucking us royally for years?
the week after they fight back on the gas companies for doing the same thing and the week before they do it to the gov't.

these companies space this shit out far enough apart that by the time the next increase comes along you will have forgotten about this increase and will just go on with your life another 2$ poorer.
 
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