Being a Corporate Slave

Plan B

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I don't think I could ever work in an environment where I was expected to be in my chair at 08:30 every day.

I've never worked in that environment actually in the 20 years since I finished University. I've always had a lot of freedom to come and go as I please. It's always been about 1. Getting the job done, 2. Meeting the budget, 3. Making sure the end result of my work is correct. (and there would be massive consequences if it was wrong). Throughout my 20 years, I've always been "on". I work sometimes extreme hours. I go on vacation to Europe, but I check my emails every night. I take conference calls from a cottage in Northern Ontario when I'm supposed to be relaxing. I have taken 0 vacation in 2 years one time. I get 4 weeks off a year, but I usually take 2 at most. I work days, nights, long weekends, but last Friday I fucked the dog all day long. It's what needs to be done. But don't ask me to be on the clock. Never.

Up until 4 years ago - I worked for a "massive corportation" with about 60,000 people all over the world. Didn't start out that way. It was a nice Canadian company of about 1,000 that got hoovered up by massive corporation. For the first couple of years, nothing much changed, but massive corporation was on a Canadian buying spree. After about 3 years of nothing much happening - they lowered the boom and lots happened. Long story short, it was a case of "fit in or fuck off" So I fucked off. Joined a client, sunk a big chunk of borrowed money in for a share in the company and have never looked back. I have more pressure now than ever, and almost no support, but I'm definitely part of the equation. Is it the perfect job? Nope. But I don't hate my job. I like it at best. I can get up in the morning.

Do I work too much? Yep. Am I work a holic? I don't think so, but some would say yes. If I won the Lotto Max, I would feel very guilty about quitting on my boss. I think I'd offer to buy an even 50% of the company from him and if he said yes, I'd stay, but if he said no, I'd go. Strange eh.
James, most of your points on this board are very well stated...however...you take 2 weeks of a year and you consider yourself a success? You state you have more pressure now, and almost no support...these are not success indicators in my book. 30-40 years from now you'll be gone...and you worked so much for what?

All I know is that I and every other asshole here on TERB can be replaced by our companies in 5-10 minutes...so enjoy your life. You are much better working 37.5 hours a week for 50,000, and having free time to see your friends, meet women, pursue your hobbies, than make 100,000 + and work over 60 hours a week, and then keel over from high blood pressure. However this guy will have nicer suits in his closet, but so what...the 80s and Yuppiedom are over..

Yes, we are corporate slaves...its only when we lose everything that we are truly free.
 

Plan B

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It's called a pyramid model, and it's about climbing to the top.

I may be a fucking idiot. But I'm the chief fucking idiot of my own little empire. I didn't bitch about work. I got good, very good, at it. I paid my dues.

I fnd that people who bitch about the System are the kind of people who think the world owes them a decent wage and 8 weeks a year vacation simply for existing. Nobody owed me anything. I owe everything I have to my immigrant parents who busted their ass to give me a decent chance at a good life, and to my own sweat and blood.

Life is what you make it. Take smart chances. Make lots of friends and keep them close, because friends are the ones who give you opportunities, and lend you a hand when you need. Business partners and associates will fuck you over for a dollar. Friends have your back. Many ambitious, but naive, people don't know the difference.

Btw, by "bitches". I mean the grunts, clerks and staff that you are rewarded with to make your life easier.
Well wadaya know...you must be that jerk from Glengarry Glen Ross movie
 

Plan B

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It's called a pyramid model, and it's about climbing to the top.

I may be a fucking idiot. But I'm the chief fucking idiot of my own little empire. I didn't bitch about work. I got good, very good, at it. I paid my dues.

I fnd that people who bitch about the System are the kind of people who think the world owes them a decent wage and 8 weeks a year vacation simply for existing. Nobody owed me anything. I owe everything I have to my immigrant parents who busted their ass to give me a decent chance at a good life, and to my own sweat and blood.

Life is what you make it. Take smart chances. Make lots of friends and keep them close, because friends are the ones who give you opportunities, and lend you a hand when you need. Business partners and associates will fuck you over for a dollar. Friends have your back. Many ambitious, but naive, people don't know the difference.

Btw, by "bitches". I mean the grunts, clerks and staff that you are rewarded with to make your life easier.
Well wadaya know...you must be that jerk off from Glengarry Glen Ross movie
 

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I agree, I was working for a bank and making really good money(for me anyway) but I was miserable. My life consisted of waking up, going to work and then going home and sleeping. This was my fault but I just didn't have the energy to do much other then work. Even on the weekends I didn't really do much. When I started getting a stress related illness that made things even worse I decided to quit. I don't have that financial security anymore but I am still alive and since I quit I have had the best years of my life, although that isn't saying much.
 

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Well wadaya know...you must be that jerk off from Glengarry Glen Ross movie
LOL. Not at all. Being a product of meritocracy, I believe in fairness and giving people a fair shot. I also learned a long time ago that honey works a lot better than a stick. I don't track vacations and I don't care if you don't wander in until 10am. I do care if you give me shit product, don't show any interest in improving and have a crappy attitude.

I don't believe in the mentality that being part of a big machine gives you any sort of job or financial security. If anything, it's LESS security because there's less personal interaction between the average joe and the top decision makers. You have to look at every job as being your mini-business, and kick ass doing it.
 

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No one can tell you haow not to be a slave in today's world. Google 'never worked and never will' for the only answer to that. All we can tell you is stuff about jobs and money. You have two options—at least legally—for persuading people to give you money in exchange for what you do.

The first, the one you are in now, is where 'they' (commonly called the employer) have no shortage of workers available and eager for their jobs, which they have de-skilled and regulated to a level that allows for pretty smooth, easy replacement of anyone who leaves. It's been a management technique since the invention of agriculture, Ford and others adapted it to industry and the computer age has moved it up into the office towers. "We don't demand much, we don't pay much, but you do have to be there and you have to do it". You're always gonna be taking it on their terms. You might do a tad better where a union that could go toe-to-toe, but that adverserial system really just amounts to a slave-revolt and changes nothing important. Union and management just incorporate a new level of decision-making and carry on the game they're both invested in. "Y'all gots tuh find a new Massuh yuh likes—and many, many do—or run off".

The other is to develop desirable skills and knowledge that has them coming to you; commonly that'll make you a freelance contractor, and give you some leverage in setting terms and rewards. There's also a host of hybrid mixes between the two extremes. In theory management and executive, even long-term hires, all would come under this head. Now you'll have top make the guys with money aware that you exist, aware that they need you, and that your rate is a bargain compared to the exorbitant rates your competitors want for their lesser competence. Then they'll dump you when their need is done, or a flashier prospect arrives. Again, a union might be of some help—the guys with the money always call the shots, and you may need help dealing with the inevitable stupid, unfair or harmful ones—and the NHLPA, or ACTRA, OMA and all sorts of professional bodies are examples of unions for stars, not slaves. At the very least they give the guys hiring a place to look for the talent.

But ultimately there's a Shakespeare line you should be pondering:

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars,
But in ourselves that we are underlings.


It's up to you, to figure out what you are. How you make your money doesn't determine it. Read on to the post that follows.
 

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To me what drives me to work everyday is not really the work itself but the people I work with. I'm fortunate to be surrounded by many very smart and bright people. We enjoy each other's company and when it's tough time like final stretch of projects we're all in it together.

And please, give a little bit of passion to your job. You're spending at least 1/3 of your time in that so might as well learn to love it! When you put in some passion you do it better and people will start respecting you and it feels great.

Granted, in corporate world we're all whores, we're in it for money and earn a living but when you put some interests, emotions and connections into it, the day gone by much easier.

There's a well written thread re "connection" in the lounge these days. Replace the sexworkers in the thread with "your job". It's the same.
 

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I know they are well compensated relative to their skill level but driving a TTC bus has to be one of the worst jobs in the city. Rude, rowdy riders, especially late at night. Elderlys who toke 2 hours to get on and off the bus while you must adhere to a strict schedule. The occasional physical and verbal assault. Mothers with huge baby strollers. Guys carrying 46" TV sets.
 

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I clip coupons and cash dividend checks. Its tough but I manage to survive.
 

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A little sensitive there, whoa. I also see that sarcasm is a hard concept for you to grasp, did you actually think I was serious about becoming a comedian? Jesus Christ. :frusty:
And here we were thinking you were just proving your claim of not being funny :)

If you are unhappy but aren't willing to actually do anything about it then what would you Like as a response? Or is this simply a misery likes company plea?
 

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