Bargain Power

[AJstar]

I've noticed quite a few posts about bargaining and haggling for stuff. Credit cards,the brick etc. Yet when someone tries or suggests negotiating with sp's all hell breaks out. While some have stayed the same, many have even increased rates. Why the double standard?

 

[willie]

hobbying is addictive ,buying furniture isn't

=willie

 

[AJstar]

AJstar, consider this:

Can you blame an SP for charging what the market will bear?

If she finds enough patrons at her "ask" price, why does she have to entertain your request for a discount?

It's all about finding equilibrium in the supply and demand curves.....

No ,No and No. While that is true, An sp's product is time. Time wasted is lost revenue, gone forever. Once they decide how much time is to be devoted to work,it becomes perishable. Holding out for a better offer to come, instead of a little less now and guaranteed should provide a better income. Your supply and demand curve analogy is mostly wrong due to an inelastic pricing by sp's.

 

[alex52]

It's all about finding equilibrium in the supply and demand curves.....

Can't people write simple English anymore, instead of all this meaningless jargon.

 

[AJstar]

Can't people write simple English anymore, instead of all this meaningless jargon.

It's called economic 101. Not meaningless at all,try some schooling.

 

[papasmerf]

There are no rules that say you can not haggle over price. Just as there is no rule that says anyone has to haggle with you.

 

[Ol' Sodomy Sam]

I find that if I am able to bargain the cost of furniture down, it still will bear my 330 lbs. cheerfully, and without complaint. The same might not be true were I to negotiate someone's rate down.

The beauty of this board is that we get an insight into what an experience is like with a SP, and in some cases, what she is like as well, at least in her on-line persona. I make decisions based on what I read here, and I wouldn't want to jeopardize that expected experience just to save $40 on $500.

On the other hand, if you just want the release part of the equation, it seems to me that there are some offering half hour, and even quarter hour sessions for reasonable prices. This seems new to me; maybe it is to compete with craigslist, others on the board or to cater to a demographic. Perhaps this is what should be considered market accommodation.

I know what I think when someone tries to lowball my rate at work. They'll pay in the end. It won't be worth it for them, and there is no way I'd take a chance with a service like this, that requires a lot of goodwill on the SP's part.

 

[AJstar]

Exactly. This friggin' economy has everyone thinking that they can bargain. They figure they have nothing to lose by asking. Guess what? They risk pissing me off and getting crappy service because they want to save a few bucks.



You assume that the objective is to maximize volume (sales of this perishable good). Some SPs do that, and those are the ones who will bargain. I think you'll find that many (most?) SPs are quite happy meeting their personal targets. (in any case, "high volume" in this biz is not good for the girl or her patrons).

You are trying to bargain for the same goods or services(apples and apples). Your 1st point shows that you are unprofessional (apples and oranges),different service(crappy). If U agree to a price U should still do your best(apples and apples). I understand the attitude, but it's still unprofessional. Your 2nd point assumes that the girls will use as much of their day as needed to to reach their goal. So if an sp is willing to be on call or waiting for 12-16 hr/day in order to use maybe 4 then U are correct. If the sp wants to use 5 hours out of say,6 and keep 18 to herself for a private life then U are wrong . Your point is still inelasticity.

 

[AJstar]

1. No, unprofessional is doing a crappy job. Providing crappy service is not the same as doing a crappy job. (e.g., I'll return your call in a day vs. right away) Yes, it may still be unprofessional. But, if they don't want to treat me like a professional, why should they expect top notch service?

2. Unless you're talking about high-volume incalls, girls don't just sit around waiting for guys. They take appointments, and run errands and what not, in between calls.

3. Even if the girls only want to work 5-6 hours, how much of a discount would you need to ensure that she is booked back-to-back for that period?

4. Some girls are also selective in who they see. In order for that to work, scheduling has to accommodate the SP and the client.

Look, I understand how the system currently works. U, however replied with an economics supply and demand counter which is fine,but then U keep adding in qualifications and exceptions in your debate. The simple point here is that this hobby is not a true supply/demand transaction. That's it. Getting back to the question. SP's do not HAVE to bargain, but why do so many feel insulted when asked? Do they not try to bargain for things they want?