Bar raised for delta variant

[canada-man]

Achieving herd immunity against coronavirus will not be possible without an approved vaccine for children under 12, Public Health Ontario says in a new report about what the pandemic will look like this fall and winter.

Due to the increased transmissibility and partial vaccine escape ability of the Delta B.1.617.2 variant now dominant in Ontario and much of the world, the report says the percentage of the population requiring vaccination to hit a point where virus transmission enters long-term decline now exceeds the number of people actual medically eligible for vaccination at this time.

“The critical threshold for vaccination is now estimated to be at least 90% of the Ontario population, and over 100% of the vaccine-eligible population,” Public Health Ontario says.



The original target vaccination rate called for to fully exit Ontario’s reopening plan was 75 per cent of people over 12 fully vaccinated, 80 per cent with at least one dose and no region with less than 70 per cent fully vaccinated.

Public Health Ontario says this vaccination target was developed against the characteristics of the Alpha B.1.1.7 coronavirus variant, which Ontario research now suggests was far less deadly than Delta.

“You often hear in the general public people get upset, they say ‘the goal posts keep changing,’ and the answer to that is yes, of course the goal posts are changing because the virus has changed,” UHN infectious diseases specialist Dr. Isaac Bogoch told CTV News Toronto.




first it was 2 weeks to flatten the curve

stop the spread

slow the spread,

vaccines will make us return to normal

we need 80% first dose and 20% 2 doses

bla bla bla bla

Beating Delta coronavirus variant only possible when vaccine cleared for kids under 12: Ontario report | CP24.com


Meet Issac Bogoch: Another UofT "Expert" Pushing Experimental Vaccines On The Public - Canuck Law

 

[ShockNAwww]

Achieving herd immunity against coronavirus will not be possible without an approved vaccine for children under 12, Public Health Ontario says in a new report about what the pandemic will look like this fall and winter.

Due to the increased transmissibility and partial vaccine escape ability of the Delta B.1.617.2 variant now dominant in Ontario and much of the world, the report says the percentage of the population requiring vaccination to hit a point where virus transmission enters long-term decline now exceeds the number of people actual medically eligible for vaccination at this time.

“The critical threshold for vaccination is now estimated to be at least 90% of the Ontario population, and over 100% of the vaccine-eligible population,” Public Health Ontario says.



The original target vaccination rate called for to fully exit Ontario’s reopening plan was 75 per cent of people over 12 fully vaccinated, 80 per cent with at least one dose and no region with less than 70 per cent fully vaccinated.

Public Health Ontario says this vaccination target was developed against the characteristics of the Alpha B.1.1.7 coronavirus variant, which Ontario research now suggests was far less deadly than Delta.

“You often hear in the general public people get upset, they say ‘the goal posts keep changing,’ and the answer to that is yes, of course the goal posts are changing because the virus has changed,” UHN infectious diseases specialist Dr. Isaac Bogoch told CTV News Toronto.




first it was 2 weeks to flatten the curve

stop the spread

slow the spread,

vaccines will make us return to normal

we need 80% first dose and 20% 2 doses

bla bla bla bla

Beating Delta coronavirus variant only possible when vaccine cleared for kids under 12: Ontario report | CP24.com


Meet Issac Bogoch: Another UofT "Expert" Pushing Experimental Vaccines On The Public - Canuck Law

Curious, in a ‘game’ with a continuously evolving virus being studied by the world’s best in science and medicine with breakthroughs, advancements and setbacks happening almost daily, why wouldn’t you or anyone else see it as inevitable for almost continuous adaptation in-terms of public health response/advice around COVID?

Like, have you have been upset since we re-opened last June before achieving the Ford/PH objectives of the initial lockdown? Because, goalposts move in both directions in this game, sport.

 

[northofsixty]

Curious, in a ‘game’ with a continuously evolving virus being studied by the world’s best in science and medicine with breakthroughs, advancements and setbacks happening almost daily, why wouldn’t you or anyone else see it as inevitable for almost continuous adaptation in-terms of public health response/advice around COVID?

Like, have you have been upset since we re-opened last June before achieving the Ford/PH objectives of the initial lockdown? Because, goalposts move both directions in this game, sport.

You do realize who you are asking that question of right?

First, canada-man likely cannot understand it, and secondly even if he did he understand the question as it does not fit his delusional world view he would just ignore it, or find some wacko source with an alternative view of reality to quote.

 

[canada-man]

Curious, in a ‘game’ with a continuously evolving virus being studied by the world’s best in science and medicine with breakthroughs, advancements and setbacks happening almost daily, why wouldn’t you or anyone else see it as inevitable for almost continuous adaptation in-terms of public health response/advice around COVID?

Like, have you have been upset since we re-opened last June before achieving the Ford/PH objectives of the initial lockdown? Because, goalposts move both directions in this game, sport.

there is nothing scientific about this covid hysteria.

 

[ShockNAwww]

You do realize who you are asking that question of right?

First, canada-man likely cannot understand it, and secondly even if he did he understand the question as it does not fit his delusional world view he would just ignore it, or find some wacko source with an alternative view of reality to quote.

Don’t forget, there’s always a good chance of getting one of his famous non sequiturs.

If it’s not magic mushrooms, my money would be on not neurotypical.

 

[canada-man]

You do realize who you are asking that question of right?

First, canada-man likely cannot understand it, and secondly even if he did he understand the question as it does not fit his delusional world view he would just ignore it, or find some wacko source with an alternative view of reality to quote.

and how many boosters are you planning to Get? Trudeau orders millions of doses 30-60 million a year until 2024

 

[ShockNAwww]

there is nothing scientific about this covid hysteria.

I believe you have a tenuous grasp on reality and reading, and your efforts in this thread and elsewhere to misinform or propagate misinformation is a clear sign that you are truly a menace.

Your opinions about science and medicine are about as valid as the majority of your sources.

 

[canada-man]

I believe you have a tenuous grasp on reality and reading, and your efforts in this thread and elsewhere to misinform or propagate misinformation is a clear sign that you are truly a menace.

Your opinions about science and medicine are about as valid as the majority of your sources.

all you do is whine and complain about my posts. you remind me blackrock13 a few years ago who used to do the same thing whine and complain when he see something he disagree with

 

[squeezer]

all you do is whine and complain about my posts. you remind me blackrock13 a few years ago who used to do the same thing whine and complain when he see something he disagree with

All I see is member after member basically calling you out for being an idiot.

 

[northofsixty]

and how many boosters are you planning to Get? Trudeau orders millions of doses 30-60 million a year until 2024

As many as it takes until Covid 19 is no longer a threat to the health of the people I care about and to society in general. That is what all rational, intelligent, civic minded members of society are prepared to do - while ignorant, delusional individuals like you post inane crap and whine about about the supposed loss of your freedoms and prove with every single post just how deluded you truly are. Seriously - how do you get through the day? Who would put up with your idiocy? You must hide your views very well from your employer and have a very menial job - as no one in their right mind would put you in any position of responsibility.

 

[xmontrealer]

and how many boosters are you planning to Get? Trudeau orders millions of doses 30-60 million a year until 2024

I get the current flu shot every year, to try and keep up with, and protect myself from whatever the current year's flu virus is predicted to be.

Similarly I will happily take booster shots of the Covid vaccine, and I will assume the manufacturers will attempt to tailor the vaccines to the current virus variations, and will over time be able to more accurately predict, and hopefully mitigate, any side effects.

Given the % of people who remain unvaccinated in North America, and especially in less wealthy areas of the world, I expect to be taking Covid booster shots for many years to come.

 

[lomotil]

The “goalpost” are ill defined political jargon which give the politicians leeway and wiggle room. Businesses and the general public are forced to then make their own interpretation and plan accordingly.

The computer models for this fall and early winter are said to be quite grim for N.America under the Delta variant which is only a relatively small part of the world. South America is being roiled by the Lambda variant which has not yet taken off in N. America but May drive a 5th wave by the spring of 2022. Then there is the continued situation in India and elsewhere

 

[squeezer]

Cm, I suggest you move to Texas. No Covid rules and finally like-minded dumbas,,er , I mean people like yourself.

 

[Jenesis]

and how many boosters are you planning to Get? Trudeau orders millions of doses 30-60 million a year until 2024

How ever many as it takes. As well as the flu shot.

That was an easy one, next?

 

[csmitting]

Keep moving those goal posts.

 

[PeteOsborne]

and how many boosters are you planning to Get? Trudeau orders millions of doses 30-60 million a year until 2024

Which is it?
You were posting articles before about how the government failed to procure enough vaccines in the beginning, now you are posting that ordering vaccines proactively is is bad.
Maybe he can be like Goldy-locks and order it at just the right time, when would that be by the way?

 

[Male4Strapon]

first it was 2 weeks to flatten the curve

stop the spread

slow the spread,

vaccines will make us return to normal

we need 80% first dose and 20% 2 doses

bla bla bla bla

This is not surprising news except to those not paying attention or intentionally ignoring what others have been saying, including yours truly in mid July https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/goo...ing-the-experimental-jabs.752293/post-7133366

To quote myself at that time....... We are at around 80% with one dose and 60% with both in the province but here is the critical issue...... those numbers are based on ADULTS 18+. Without the ability to vaccinate younger children that 80% threshold isn't what it seems. Thresholds for herd immunity is based on X% of the total population. Children under 14 make up roughly 15% of Ontario's population so factoring that in, the real threshold for true herd immunity among adults is mid 90's fully vaccinated to account for the kids who can't be vaccinated.

 

[Male4Strapon]

How ever many as it takes. As well as the flu shot.

That was an easy one, next?

lol it does make me laugh when i hear anti vaxxers act like boosters are the line in the sand for those already vaxxed.

 

[squeezer]

lol it does make me laugh when i hear anti vaxxers act like boosters are the line in the sand for those already vaxxed.

I'd grab my booster today if allowed.

AZ followed by Pfizer and my third Moderna. I want the trifecta of the jabs.

 

[canada-man]

Nobody wants to talk about Israel vaccine failures