Bait and Greek

[mno3]

I know that I am average sized.

When they say Greek - depends on your size and then they tell me that I'm too big , I wonder how much smallet than average id have to be and why they don't say that up front. Maybe my expectations are off. I don't think that it's a "me and ymmv" type of thing because I have been able to do other nasty things. I think that depends on size means an excuse to say no.

 

[mustang1967]

If they say ymmv for Greek or bbbj basically they have an excuse not to do it. As long as you are clean and showered

 

[Catherine St.Claire]

Traveling to the Greek Isles is a tricky journey and I support the ladies who say YMMV for a variety of reasons. The first is I need to trust you. I spent 6 days in hospital after being ripped open by a less than averaged sized man who didn't listen and decided he wasn't taking no for an answer no matter what I said, begged or pleaded. He literally tore my anus open while holding me down and to this day I don't trust anyone I meet out of the gate so to speak. My bowels didn't function properly for almost a year and I required daily enemas to ensure elimination for 9 months. Enough of a reason for a woman to say YMMV? I think so.

The second reason I have is that I now won't provide the service unless my body is ready for it. Unless I have had a natural BM before hand, it isn't an option. I don't do enemas unless the doctor orders it.

The third is the experience of the play partner. If he wants to have porn anal then it isn't going to happen. It is the way I like it or it doesn't happen. If his attitude is off, his size is unmanageable that day, I haven't had my daily function or I'm not in the mood for it, then it isn't happening. Any one of these is enough to ensure my bowels don't move for days afterwards. My solution when I don't think it's going to work when someone insists on it, I simply produce the same size strap on and they have to let me do them first. If they are game and let me show them how I like it then I will suck it up and suffer for a couple of days of constipation. Otherwise, it's at my discretion and I think my requirements are reasonable...

cat

 

[kenpachi]

Traveling to the Greek Isles is a tricky journey and I support the ladies who say YMMV for a variety of reasons. The first is I need to trust you. I spent 6 days in hospital after being ripped open by a less than averaged sized man who didn't listen and decided he wasn't taking no for an answer no matter what I said, begged or pleaded. He literally tore my anus open while holding me down and to this day I don't trust anyone I meet out of the gate so to speak. My bowels didn't function properly for almost a year and I required daily enemas to ensure elimination for 9 months. Enough of a reason for a woman to say YMMV? I think so.

The second reason I have is that I now won't provide the service unless my body is ready for it. Unless I have had a natural BM before hand, it isn't an option. I don't do enemas unless the doctor orders it.

The third is the experience of the play partner. If he wants to have porn anal then it isn't going to happen. It is the way I like it or it doesn't happen. If his attitude is off, his size is unmanageable that day, I haven't had my daily function or I'm not in the mood for it, then it isn't happening. Any one of these is enough to ensure my bowels don't move for days afterwards. My solution when I don't think it's going to work when someone insists on it, I simply produce the same size strap on and they have to let me do them first. If they are game and let me show them how I like it then I will suck it up and suffer for a couple of days of constipation. Otherwise, it's at my discretion and I think my requirements are reasonable...

cat

Just don't offer it on the menu. Makes things less complicated. Guys will understand.

 

[KittyCatSofia]

What a great way to put it! There are just so many factors. It's as if you have to wait until the stars align to be able to confidently make a trip to Greek town. It's not only our bodily factors but the client's too. Ability to inspire trust is one thing but if he is not hard enough for the entire time, it won't work!

So sorry to hear that you had a nightmare of a time with that client!!! :Eek:

And Kenpachi, I think some girls choose to keep it on the menu because if all of the prerequisites are met then it can be accomplished and can even be pleasurable.

 

[curiousm7]

Hope you treated him to a kick in the nuts when he was done.

My ymmv factor gets frustrated when ymmv comes at a premium. I had one case where we spoke on the phone and I agreed to the upsell fee and it was in the donation envelope. When it was time to switch to greek she declared today was not a good day...ok, I respect and understand. Not to be rude, I did not request the return of the premium nor was it offered. My rule now is all-inclusive rate. Therefore, I don't feel ripped off.

Traveling to the Greek Isles is a tricky journey and I support the ladies who say YMMV for a variety of reasons. The first is I need to trust you. I spent 6 days in hospital after being ripped open by a less than averaged sized man who didn't listen and decided he wasn't taking no for an answer no matter what I said, begged or pleaded. He literally tore my anus open while holding me down and to this day I don't trust anyone I meet out of the gate so to speak. My bowels didn't function properly for almost a year and I required daily enemas to ensure elimination for 9 months. Enough of a reason for a woman to say YMMV? I think so.

The second reason I have is that I now won't provide the service unless my body is ready for it. Unless I have had a natural BM before hand, it isn't an option. I don't do enemas unless the doctor orders it.

The third is the experience of the play partner. If he wants to have porn anal then it isn't going to happen. It is the way I like it or it doesn't happen. If his attitude is off, his size is unmanageable that day, I haven't had my daily function or I'm not in the mood for it, then it isn't happening. Any one of these is enough to ensure my bowels don't move for days afterwards. My solution when I don't think it's going to work when someone insists on it, I simply produce the same size strap on and they have to let me do them first. If they are game and let me show them how I like it then I will suck it up and suffer for a couple of days of constipation. Otherwise, it's at my discretion and I think my requirements are reasonable...

cat

 

[liteload]

I also agree with the all inclusive fee structure, as for the possibility of greek my personal policy if attempting is to allow the lady to take the lead and direct me during this phase to insure her comfort.

 

[Jabba]

What a great way to put it! There are just so many factors. It's as if you have to wait until the stars align to be able to confidently make a trip to Greek town. It's not only our bodily factors but the client's too. Ability to inspire trust is one thing but if he is not hard enough for the entire time, it won't work!

So sorry to hear that you had a nightmare of a time with that client!!! :Eek:

And Kenpachi, I think some girls choose to keep it on the menu because if all of the prerequisites are met then it can be accomplished and can even be pleasurable.

If there's no pleasure in it for the lady, I won't even consider it - that would be a turn-off for me.
But in keeping with the OP's subject, I think there is room for compensation if Greek has been quoted but taken off the table.

One thing that is bugging me Sofia - fantastic picture BTW...but you have a stray hair under your left eye. Can you please put it back in place?
Thank you very much.

 

[mno3]

I absolutely get, and am confortable with, ymmv
However if you are going to say depends on size, it might be better to
State only small guys. If you tell a not big guy that its because its too big, I think you lose some credibility.

 

[massman]

^^ agree.

This is a tough one tho from a client POV.

On one hand I totally understand that anal depends on many factors, bowel function, size, trust and skill. Yes it actually takes skill to relax enough to take it in the butt, and if the girl isn't relaxed and in the right mood, she will tense up and it'll hurt her a lot, and worst case scenario - just read Catherine's horrible tale above. A while back I was with a woman who was really into anal. I mean really, she loved it more than any sexual act we did, so we did it a lot. Even then, even in a trusting relationship with a woman who preferred this to anything else (god I miss her) sometimes it just didn't work. And porno style anal only works in porn. You gotta go slow, and gentle till she's fully relaxed and into it - that sometimes might take 10-15 minutes.

On the other hand, as a client, if you are into Greek you will seek out girls that advertise this as an option. In fact anal may be the main reason you are seeking professional help in the first place! Therefore if its denied a)you have lost out on your fantasy and b) you might have missed out on another girl that would provide.

However given what I said above, you just can't count on it. See a girl based on attractiveness, service quality (based on reviews here) and menu, but ask yourself if you will be happy if Greek is off the menu. Keep expectation low in this area. And yes there are girls who advertise this with no intention of providing yet gladly take the $ for it as well. Fortunately they are few and far between. As always choose carefully and caveat emptor

 

[massman]

And quite humorously this has to be the only time guys underplay / underestimate their cock size!!! Lol!