Bad Client, what to do?

[Hurricane Hank]

I had a session with a regular this past week, and she shared this story with me.
Seems she had a client who was less than a gentleman earlier in the week. In addition to becoming over agressive and rude, he also skipped out after the session without paying. He pulled the old "I thought I already paid you" line, then said he would go to his car and get the money. Of course he drove off. The thing is, he is a civil servant, she has his phone number, and knows his name.

Ladies: Do you chalk this up to live and learn - it's the cost of doing business? Or, should she seek revenge / compensation for services rendered?

I won't reveal her name, but I believe every word of the story as I have known her for a number of years.

 

[papasmerf]

I hope you did not opt to make good on his session.


Professionalism dictates this is not a subject to burden others with during sessions.

 

[Mrbig1949]

I've never met a new SP who didn't ask for the money first and some ask if I mind if

I had a session with a regular this past week, and she shared this story with me.
Seems she had a client who was less than a gentleman earlier in the week. In addition to becoming over agressive and rude, he also skipped out after the session without paying. He pulled the old "I thought I already paid you" line, then said he would go to his car and get the money. Of course he drove off. The thing is, he is a civil servant, she has his phone number, and knows his name.

Ladies: Do you chalk this up to live and learn - it's the cost of doing business? Or, should she seek revenge / compensation for services rendered?

I won't reveal her name, but I believe every word of the story as I have known her for a number of years.

Isn't this the way it is done? Regulars who trust each other thats different.

Don't the ladies have a registry of A Holes?

 

[Hurricane Hank]

I hope you did not opt to make good on his session.


Professionalism dictates this is not a subject to burden others with during sessions.

No I didn't. That's not what it was about at all. More fear than anything else. Then, anger.

 

[squash500]

I had a session with a regular this past week, and she shared this story with me.
Seems she had a client who was less than a gentleman earlier in the week. In addition to becoming over agressive and rude, he also skipped out after the session without paying. He pulled the old "I thought I already paid you" line, then said he would go to his car and get the money. Of course he drove off. The thing is, he is a civil servant, she has his phone number, and knows his name.

Ladies: Do you chalk this up to live and learn - it's the cost of doing business? Or, should she seek revenge / compensation for services rendered?

I won't reveal her name, but I believe every word of the story as I have known her for a number of years.

This topic has been dealt with on terb before. Why don't all SP's and MP's insist of payment before the session starts? The SP can politely say to the new client that it's nothing personal but that it's just the way she conducts her business.

I've said this before on terb. Once a guy blows his load his big head starts thinking cheap financial thoughts once his little head has been satisfied .

In all seriousness if the sp or the mp has seen a regular 3-4 times then that is one thing. Then IMHO in most cases the regular client can pay after the session.

For every new client, IMHO the SP should ask for the donation before the session starts. If it ruins the fantasy for the client too bad. As usual just my opinion.

As far as this particular situation goes the sp should threaten to call the guy's government supervisor etc. On second thought not such a good idea but if I was an sp and this happened to me I would be totally pissed off.

 

[Ashley Dupree]

I had a session with a regular this past week, and she shared this story with me.
Seems she had a client who was less than a gentleman earlier in the week. In addition to becoming over agressive and rude, he also skipped out after the session without paying. He pulled the old "I thought I already paid you" line, then said he would go to his car and get the money. Of course he drove off. The thing is, he is a civil servant, she has his phone number, and knows his name.

Ladies: Do you chalk this up to live and learn - it's the cost of doing business? Or, should she seek revenge / compensation for services rendered?

I won't reveal her name, but I believe every word of the story as I have known her for a number of years.

Seek revenge later when he least expect it.lol. then he never knew who it was. j/k.lol.

better to report him here to let other sp know about him. terb is big place where people will see and you can give info in private message. then chalk it up to learn experience and make sure money is pay up front.

there is good keyword that a very profesional sp once tell me year ago. she say there is delicate way to ask for money without ruining fantasy or giving off impression of be money hungry. she tell me to use the phrase something like this once client arrive and you have greet him...."shall we take care of formalities?" the word formality is good one cause you not ask for money but you are indirectly cause they know this is part of business.

 

[Caralho Gigante]

or she could just say "Give me ma money oh I aint suckin yo dick"

 

[squash500]

Regular client or not always get the money first. This is a business and if men cant handle it they should try dating a regular girl.

before meeting them get as much info from them as possible, name some even get thier full name as it as appear on thier driver liscence. contact number some wont even accept cell phone numbers it has to be alandline number, or employement.

www.providerbuzz.com reports all bad clients, spoc does it as well. These days you cant afford to let your guard down.

I agree with you Riley.

 

[joey21]

hank was this person who did this from the markham/richmond hill area?

 

[tboy]

As for not unloading their stories on us decent clients, I don't mind it a bit. In fact some of the stories are rather entertaining (not the agressive or rip off ones). I've had many an sp talk about her life as an sp with me. I mean, unless she is friendly with other sps, some of the ladies have no one else to talk to about their life.

 

[Hangman]

If you're considering using the client's real name or job as leverage, that is likely more dangerous than it is worth. Most guys pay at the session, some assholes rip you off.

Most of those guys will pay if you try to contact them and they know you have some personal info. But actually contacting his family or employer is opening up a serious threat. If someone's livelihood or family life were threatened, you don't know what they'll do. Is it worth the risk for a couple hundred bucks?

I would never give an SP that kind of personal data, and would avoid the ones try to get it.

 

[squash500]

If you're considering using the client's real name or job as leverage, that is likely more dangerous than it is worth. Most guys pay at the session, some assholes rip you off.

Most of those guys will pay if you try to contact them and they know you have some personal info. But actually contacting his family or employer is opening up a serious threat. If someone's livelihood or family life were threatened, you don't know what they'll do. Is it worth the risk for a couple hundred bucks?

I would never give an SP that kind of personal data, and would avoid the ones try to get it.

I don't mean to get in an argument here but why should an sp put up with the fact that she just got ripped off a couple of hundred bucks? It's not like the sp can take the guy to small claims court to get the money owing .

The sp could maybe have a couple of her girlfriends keep calling his office and saying their calling on behalf of a collection agency etc. Or they could call his wife saying that her husband owes a collection agency money etc.

For some reason visualizing that government civil servant ripping off an sp like that really irritated me!

 

[Aardvark154]

there is good keyword that a very profesional sp once tell me year ago. she say there is delicate way to ask for money without ruining fantasy or giving off impression of be money hungry. she tell me to use the phrase something like this once client arrive and you have greet him...."shall we take care of formalities?" the word formality is good one cause you not ask for money but you are indirectly cause they know this is part of business.

That was very good advice Ashley.

 

[scarlet6969]

well its an inportant lession to learn always get the client to pay first, as nicely as riley said it is a business and if it ruins the fantasy find a girlfriend

 

[Hangman]

That's exactly my point, Squash. She can't take him to small claims court. An SP unfortunately has very little recourse.

However, taking matters into your own hands as you have suggested is probably more dangerous than its worth. I think that for the amounts we're talking about, the SP has to take the loss and get paid up front.

Not everyone is reasonable like you. Some men, when harassed or threatened as you've described, even though they are in the wrong originally, will react in a violent or otherwise negative manner.

Its not worth the risk for a couple hundred.

 

[squash500]

That's exactly my point, Squash. She can't take him to small claims court. An SP unfortunately has very little recourse.

However, taking matters into your own hands as you have suggested is probably more dangerous than its worth. I think that for the amounts we're talking about, the SP has to take the loss and get paid up front.

Not everyone is reasonable like you. Some men, when harassed or threatened as you've described, even though they are in the wrong originally, will react in a violent or otherwise negative manner.

Its not worth the risk for a couple hundred.

I guess that makes sense Hangman. Ironically I always offer and actually literally insist to pay all the sps and mpa's I see right upfront. Some of them still say to me that I trust you and that you can pay me at the end of the session ?

I personally could never do what that civil servant did in a million years. Just walk out like that without paying the sp any money whatsoever.

 

[Mrbig1949]

I agree with former angel 2

It's happened to me over the years as well;-( It's part of the business,and a HARD learning lesson! I would personally,just ban him! Life's too short to focus on the negative energy,with one bad client ,follows another AWESOME ONE!!

However,I really hope he feels guilty,and thinks twice about the situation,and makes arrangements to pay her,after-all...what comes around,goes around!

If it is a money issue every business has to write down a loss every so ofter. A fav of mine had the guy pocket the envelope on the way out the door + took her working call which set her back days and POd some good clients. All she could really do is learn to put the money away, keep her eye on the phone and sadly be less trusting. The guy got free sex, a cell phone. Got banned. Life

 

[Brill]

If I had his address, I'd break a window or spray paint his car.

Then forget it.

 

[Hurricane Hank]

For me, it would not be a big deal to lose the money. But by doing nothing, and chalking it up to part of the business, you leave this guy free to continue pulling this shit with other girls.
I have always told her to get the money uo front, especially from first time customers. Every time I see a girl for the first time I insist on paying up front. It puts the ladies at ease.

It's not my call, but I'm hoping she will share the guy's number with other ladies. Wish she would have gotten a plate number. Would have made things very interesting.

 

[Miss Maya Blue]

Regular client or not always get the money first. This is a business and if men cant handle it they should try dating a regular girl.

before meeting them get as much info from them as possible, name some even get thier full name as it as appear on thier driver liscence. contact number some wont even accept cell phone numbers it has to be alandline number, or employement.

www.providerbuzz.com reports all bad clients, spoc does it as well. These days you cant afford to let your guard down.

Unfortunately this sort of stuff happens. And when it does it feels really lousy. Fortunately, its not the norm.

As for bad client forums, I was a member of Danger411 for a long time, but found the $$ not worthwhile since I no longer do business in the States. Thanks for posting this website Riley. I joined today and will add any info I have to share.

Hopefully we could spread the word and make other indies aware of it?
These resources are only as valuable as the contributions made to them.

Thanks for posting.

To the original poster, maybe ask your friend join and let us girls know. Revenge is never recommended, for so many reasons...