Id be wary of what AI quotes especially when it comes to Chinese data and figures. "Humanitarian" and "China" is sort of an oxymoron.
Bad China/Good US, Canada needs to stop following US and starts to diversify its trade
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I would go ahead and explore trade opportunities with the Chinese despite their human rights abuses, arrests of Canadian citizens, etc. simply because it helps Canada diversify the risk that any given moment one (or more) of our trading partners will try to fuck us in some way. We cannot allow ourselves to be this economically dependent on the US.
50M-80M by Mao alone with his idiotic policies. Killed more people than Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and basically add any other mass murderer in history combined
Sure sounds like China has no interest in war
. Coming from Chinese state media. Reinforced within their constitutionI'm sorry if you didn't see it coming. I planned for the worst and hoped for better.
Sure we should look for mutual beneficial partnerships. But I can assure you, a partnership with the CCP will not be symbiotic and it will be exploitive. Canadians will lose.
Trading partners are not really partners open to much exploitation. They are not in bed together. If China wants Canadian shit formerly sold to US they’ll buy it. If not, they won’t. What’s there to exploit?
Sure sounds like China has no interest in war
China has no interest in war with Canada and vice versa.
I don't see trading with China to be an issue.
that wa
Taiwan is China.Sure sounds like China has no interest in war
We should trade with them but try to ensure not too much of any single line of trade is too large with any one country,
no need for Chinese police stations in Canada then
'What’s there to exploit?'
The left are so naive
Fear of war and war itself are not the same thing, If China were to actually go to war with Taiwan, it would risk its financial stability and trigger massive unrest among its own people. The consequences would be felt far beyond China and Taiwan, engulfing the entire world in economic and military turmoil. In the 21st century, war is waged with planes, ships, and missiles, not just soldiers on the ground. China’s military, despite its strength, is no match for the firepower the United States and its allies would bring to Taiwan’s defense. Just as the world rallied behind Ukraine, it would support Taiwan, and the regional forces in Japan, Australia, and NATO staging areas in the Philippines and Indonesia would ensure that China faces war on multiple fronts. Every border would be under siege, and the economic devastation would far outweigh any strategic or territorial gains. Taiwan is not essential to China’s survival, but a reckless war could put China’s very stability at risk.
China of the mid-20th century has already subdued the world of the 21st century without battle, using economic power, strategic influence, and patience rather than reckless aggression. It will continue to grow in importance over the coming decades, not through war, but through diplomacy and economic expansion. A nation’s standing and influence can be lost in an instant, as seen with the reckless actions of recent leaders like Trump, whose short-sighted decisions weakened U.S. global influence. Likewise, Putin has devastated the military in his country and Russia decimated her economy for decades to come. Unlike selfish, power-hungry dictators, China’s leadership has historically played the long game, understanding that real strength comes from stability, not unnecessary conflict. In war, China would stand alone against a united world, facing economic ruin, military overextension, and domestic unrest. A prolonged conflict would drain its resources, disrupt global trade, and ultimately damage its own rise. The true path to dominance lies not in destruction but in patience, diplomacy, and economic strength. By resisting the temptation of war and focusing on strategic influence, China can secure its place as a global superpower without suffering the devastating consequences of direct confrontation.
China of the mid-20th century has already subdued the world of the 21st century without battle, using economic power, strategic influence, and patience rather than reckless aggression. It will continue to grow in importance over the coming decades, not through war, but through diplomacy and economic expansion. A nation’s standing and influence can be lost in an instant, as seen with the reckless actions of recent leaders like Trump, whose short-sighted decisions weakened U.S. global influence. Likewise, Putin has devastated the military in his country and Russia decimated her economy for decades to come. Unlike selfish, power-hungry dictators, China’s leadership has historically played the long game, understanding that real strength comes from stability, not unnecessary conflict. In war, China would stand alone against a united world, facing economic ruin, military overextension, and domestic unrest. A prolonged conflict would drain its resources, disrupt global trade, and ultimately damage its own rise. The true path to dominance lies not in destruction but in patience, diplomacy, and economic strength. By resisting the temptation of war and focusing on strategic influence, China can secure its place as a global superpower without suffering the devastating consequences of direct confrontation.
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Make no mistake, China has been at war with the west for decades. I suggest you read unrestricted warfare. It was written by 2 PLA generals. While we havent had physical confrontation with China, they are using many different tools to undermine western society.
I will leave you with us. The CCP makes no differentiation between the U.S., U.K., Canada, etc. They are all responsible for our century of humiliation.
I agree, the implications of instability in the far east would have deleterious effects on the entire world. But the only reason Xi has not done it is because it is regime threatening if it doesnt succeed swiftly or fails. When i read chinese state media (especially the newspapers written in chinese to be consumed by the chinese population), it is quite obvious that unifying Taiwan is a top priority and military action is definitely on the table.
I grew up believing this being brainwashed into this sort of thought. But now i believe that it is a beautiful thing to be able to have free will and self determination. When i visited Taiwan a few years ago, it was amazing to see how vast the difference was between china and taiwan.
As i have begun to read a bit more, ive learned that the PRC has not controlled Taiwan for a single day. Also, mao initially stated that Taiwan should be indepedent. During many of the dynasties, ie qing dynasty they never had full administrative control of the island. Prior to that the portuguese and dutch colonized Taiwan. Before then, the austronese held the island. They never taught me this in communist china. All we were taught was taiwan was an inalienable part of china because of an old map. When you think critical, you realize how ridiculous this is.
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There has already been 3 cases of Chinese Canadians repatriated back to China. Safeguard defenders said it is possible that it is way more
Taiwan as it stands without an invasion force on it has no intrinsic worth or stategic influence on China. The wealth of knowledge is in the people that will flee in case of war. The cost of invasion to China will be massive and outweigh any benefit.
Unfortunately, regimes with millennium long ambitions might not see it this way. Xi has stated numerous times that he doesn't rule out using military force.
