B.C. to decriminalize possession of small amounts of ‘hard’ drugs such as cocaine, fentanyl and heroin

[Phil C. McNasty]

Toronto waits for federal government to decriminalize possession of drugs for personal use

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[poker]

It's fucked up and will only lead to more addiction issues with a greater number of people. You can argue that drugs being illegal never stopped anyone from doing drugs and I suppose you may be right, however, it definitely added to the stigma of being a drug user. With this change in the legislation, it results in drugs becoming more socially acceptable and will lead to more drug use in society as a whole. You can see it now when you're walking around downtown just how many fucked up people there are on the streets of Toronto. Sorry, it was never like this back 20 years ago. It's a zoo.

But the fact is, I have 0 say in the matter with respect to what the legislation says. I only know it will make things worse.

So all well and good, do what you want, but just don't expect me to pay with my taxes for rehab for all the legions of junkies out there. (Which I know is just wishful thinking on my part because it's a given that the government will pay for rehab for all the druggies out there.)

I pointed this out in my “what’s the fix” thread…. You are already paying through the nose for the addiction epidemic.

Right now…. This morning, or sometime today, thousands of addicts are going to take a government paid for taxi ride to a methadone clinic, or medical appt. To and from. Sometimes it’s in another city. Just gets charged to ODSP.

Someone mentioned debt…

Again… we go into debt because of it.

* lost tax revenue as they generally don’t work, and deal in the black market
* Wasted police resources on petty crime
* Wasted police resources on organized crime
* Court costs
* Jail costs
* Many are on the system… ODSP. Welfare… and all that entails.
* Case workers.
* A gov’t building and department.
* Transportation costs to medical appointments.
* Benefits
* Wasted resources in Health care.
* Overdoses.
* Ambulances.
* And the long term damage that can require lifetime medical treatment. All avoidable.
* City resources being spent on shelters and short term housing solutions… and the ensuing repairs that the tax payers inevitably pay for.
* Safe injection sites.
* Detox treatment centres

 

[Claudia Love]

There are far too many drug out, unproductive Canadians that are dependent on the state in whole or in part, people who should be working. Fentanyl helps to ensure the destruction of the productive resource in Canada which might have otherwise made this country less dependant on the Chinese supply chain.

Don't forget the alcoholics who judge the drug addicts

 

[lomotil]

Don't forget the alcoholics who judge the drug addicts

Alcoholism is a form of drug addiction obviously but has been grandfathered into society a long time ago. Functional alcholism is well tolerated and integrated in to our society. In fact the government sells alcohol and now marijuana to addicts of these drugs. Is the government moving towards selling cocaine, heroin, psychedelic mushroom, Fentanyl to addicts, perhaps the next step after decriminalization to discourage criminal drug dealing and ensure the safety of addicts ?

No form of substance abuse should be funded, encouraged or underwritten by the Canadian government and is not in the best interest of non addicts or addicts.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Complete legaliziation of all hard drugs is whats next. It'll probably happen within the next 10 to 20 years

Can drug users’ lives be saved by giving them uncontaminated heroin and cocaine?

A Vancouver “compassion club” is buying illicit drugs and testing for impurities before distributing them to users at risk of overdose.

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[Jenesis]

Complete legaliziation of all hard drugs is whats next. It'll probably happen within the next 10 to 20 years

Can drug users’ lives be saved by giving them uncontaminated heroin and cocaine?

A Vancouver “compassion club” is buying illicit drugs and testing for impurities before distributing them to users at risk of overdose.

www.thestar.com

Didn’t you have your own thread on this? Where did it go? It is the only proof I have that I can actually apologize and admit when I was wrong!

 

[james t kirk]

Great, now we are normalizing hard drug use. Like what could go wrong. Can barely walk down at Union Station as it is now.

And I expect the government will pour billions more into drug rehab programs and paying for the overall fallout.

 

[Claudia Love]

Great, now we are normalizing hard drug use. Like what could go wrong. Can barely walk down at Union Station as it is now.

And I expect the government will pour billions more into drug rehab programs and paying for the overall fallout.

rehab is the answer

 

[basketcase]

It's fucked up and will only lead to more addiction issues with a greater number of people. ...

If it is partnered with addiction support, it would be more useful than the cycle of prison stays.

 

[basketcase]

...

Of the two option that I mentioned above, I prefer the later In terms of achieving a sustainable reduction in death by drug overdose. Massacre all the dope dealers.

Didn't the guy in the Philippines try that?

 

[Butler1000]

Great, now we are normalizing hard drug use. Like what could go wrong. Can barely walk down at Union Station as it is now.

And I expect the government will pour billions more into drug rehab programs and paying for the overall fallout.

You mean like Alcohol addiction is?

I think you will find the vast majority of the population has enough sense not to fall into it. Its so easy to get and has been for a long time. And quite frankly just from a cost perspective jail is more expensive than rehab.

Most people do drugs because they want to forget, avoid things in their life. Whether its self hatred, trauma, or other things. Jail doesn't solve those issues, in fact it increases them.

Go after the dealers. Leniency first offense. Second throw away the key. Users though are generally victims. And should be treated as such. Just like alcoholics.

 

[lomotil]

Didn't the guy in the Philippines try that?

Mao tried in in China and it worked.
Go damn the pusherman
Massacre all dope dealers like Mao did by firing squad, , however I must digress since Mao did not legalize pot and make the government a de facto grower and dealer like Trudeau did.
We are really, really between a rock and a hard place .

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

B.C. drug decriminalization experiment starts tomorrow. We'll see how it goes I guess

B.C.’s drug decriminalization experiment starts today. Toronto and other jurisdictions are watching

Toronto Public Health says it continues working with Health Canada on a revised version of its initial decriminalization proposal.

www.thestar.com

 

[y2kmark]

How do you define a small amount of fentanyl when a piece the size of a grain of salt can kill you?...

 

[Zoot Allures]

How are you supposed to buy them? From the street?

the worse part of street drugs is quality

Quality control by the Hells Angels?