ayahuasca retreat

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ayahuasca is a hallucinogenic of the rain forest


tribes have been taking it for centuries and is a popular tourist drug as it is legal in Brazil and most rain forest countries ignore the laws anyways, Canada and the USA have shut down any attempt at a retreat

Drug appears to have wonderful results for those with psychological issues as the mind expands and we have new understandings


It has been taking hundreds of times by some individuals with no bad effects

Of course, quality control is always an issue under such circumstances as a pretend, or even real, shaman could have a bad hair day when making the stuff




www.ayahuascaassociation.org
 
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Yeah...once you stop puking, the experience is quite intense. But the 'retreats' are in South America. Joe Rogan has often talked about shamans, ayahuasca and DMT on his podcast. #142, with Graham Hancock is a really interesting discussion at times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kyN3JUmXCc


they are also found in central America

I believe there was one on the east coast of Canada but it got shut down

yes, you do puke

thx for the link

what infuriates me is the governments complete unwillingness to study the efficacy and dangers of ayahuasca. As a result , if you think it would be a good medicine, and that is what it is it is not a recreational drug, you have to be willing to be a guinea pig in less than ideal conditions which is BS as this should not be the situation.
 
Have you tried this

nope

but I am intrigued

going to the jungle and drinking stuff boiled in a pot (then throwing up because your body considerers it a poison) by someone who claims to be a shaman is a shaky proposition at best, but there are some genuine American and Canadian trained scientists and doctors down there setting up retreats because they refuse to be told what to think by their governments and their corporate masters

they are on the cutting edge of understanding of the mind

they risk all in their noble venture

they are heroes

 
would be interested in trying it but events like this makes me question the decision to do so.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...-tea-given-to-her-by-a-shaman-during-ceremony

any first person experiences would be welcome.

the problem is it has become so popular so now there is money to be made and where there is money you get greedy capitalists who are not competent

but the bigger problem is our own government prevents studies to be done caveat emptor




ayahuasca ceremony

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one of the great psychedelic songs from the sixties

would have loved to hear Hendrix play lead while he was on an ayahuasca trip


 
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Drug appears to have wonderful results for those with psychological issues as the mind expands and we have new understandings


It has been taking hundreds of times by some individuals with no bad effects






www.ayahuascaassociation.org

I'd venture to suggest that anyone taking it for psychological issues, for the 100th time...will have acquired a new psychological issue..to say the least
 
I'd venture to suggest that anyone taking it for psychological issues, for the 100th time...will have acquired a new psychological issue..to say the least


good point

maybe it is addictive and the users are fooling themselves


but

maybe insight becomes deeper and deeper and deeper

I have no idea nor do you

this freaking drug should be tested by scientists, along with all psychedelics , but our nannie state refuses us the freedom to do so
 
I wonder if they have a ayahuasca ceremony at Burning Man :confused:


 
Robin on the Howard Stern show did this and they've talked about it ever since. It was bizarre and left me with the impression that people that do this are just looking for meaning in their otherwise empty lives.
 
I wonder same thing

Interesting that Robin has done it and talks about it on the show

but I find Robin to be a pin head mouth piece that is there to compliment Stern and his amazing ego

Have small respect for her or the show, although they do some things that are not allowed on traditional shows, such as discussion on ayahuasca and farting lessons and dirty talk and insulting

Stopped listening to that show real fast

A lot of bright people have established retreats outside of north America because our government refuses to allow studies here

I find it difficult to believe there is no value in this drug other then recreation
 
would be interested in trying it but events like this makes me question the decision to do so.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...-tea-given-to-her-by-a-shaman-during-ceremony

any first person experiences would be welcome.

You beat me to it. I was thinking of this exact same example of stupid is as stupid does.

That woman would have refused to take doctor prescribed medication because she would have considered it poison and a product of capitalist pharmaceutical companies. (After all, doctors, scientists, researchers, biologists, engineers - what do they know. They've only devoted the better part of their entire lives studying in intense courses in accredited universities around the world. Now a shaman, a shaman who lives in a grass hut packed with cow dung, hey, he's obviously far more learned than any formally trained western doctor or scientist, so I will put in my mouth anything he gives me.)
 
A lot of bright people have established retreats outside of north America because our government refuses to allow studies here

I find it difficult to believe there is no value in this drug other then recreation

Take one for the team and let us know how it goes.
 
I read a study that said magic mushrooms taken once a month for a year can help stop anxiety/panic attacks. Thinking about doing that - it can't hurt. Better than the crazy pills that the doctors are so willing and happy to prescribe.
 
as a PhD in organic chemistry who is employed as a chemical engineer, I must say i am not surprised by the complete LACK of sophistication in this thread... Has ANYONE hear even taken a psychedelic? I mean, let's open this right up to the whole (and wonderful) world of tryptamines; LSD, psilocybin, DMT, etc... for technical reasons, and because of the nature of the OP, this discussion shouldn't include phenethylamines and amphetamines such as MDMA... I'm talking classic psychedelics.... Because it would appear as though none of you have. And I won't pontificate or preach, but, all of you know very little. And I would encourage all of you to do good research...

There is as much to gain from taking LSD as there is to gain from visiting the art gallery of ontario or the science centre. Some people really want to visit paris to see the louvre or go to florence to see the renaissance art, etc etc etc... just experiences to make being alive worthwhile. To deny yourself such an experience knowing its possible, easy, feasible, affordable, safe, positive, and arguably therapeutic would be to deny yourself what makes us human.... can you imagine going from birth to the grave without ever having sex?! to me, that's like going from birth to death without a full-blown psychedelic experience.

I mean, reading some of you write about psychedelics is bizarre. What does an 8 year old boy know about sex? nothing. so it would be foolish to ask him about it and to have him discuss it intelligently...

just my 2 cents and i love banging hot Sps
 
as a PhD in organic chemistry who is employed as a chemical engineer, I must say i am not surprised by the complete LACK of sophistication in this thread... Has ANYONE hear even taken a psychedelic? I mean, let's open this right up to the whole (and wonderful) world of tryptamines; LSD, psilocybin, DMT, etc... for technical reasons, and because of the nature of the OP, this discussion shouldn't include phenethylamines and amphetamines such as MDMA... I'm talking classic psychedelics.... Because it would appear as though none of you have. And I won't pontificate or preach, but, all of you know very little. And I would encourage all of you to do good research...

There is as much to gain from taking LSD as there is to gain from visiting the art gallery of ontario or the science centre. Some people really want to visit paris to see the louvre or go to florence to see the renaissance art, etc etc etc... just experiences to make being alive worthwhile. To deny yourself such an experience knowing its possible, easy, feasible, affordable, safe, positive, and arguably therapeutic would be to deny yourself what makes us human.... can you imagine going from birth to the grave without ever having sex?! to me, that's like going from birth to death without a full-blown psychedelic experience.

I mean, reading some of you write about psychedelics is bizarre. What does an 8 year old boy know about sex? nothing. so it would be foolish to ask him about it and to have him discuss it intelligently...

just my 2 cents and i love banging hot Sps

Get of your HIGH horse - ha ha

I've done LSD and it was awesome. Life changing? No. But I definitely recommend to put it on your bucket list. Unless you are a paranoid schizophrenic.
 
Get of your HIGH horse - ha ha

I've done LSD and it was awesome. Life changing? No. But I definitely recommend to put it on your bucket list. Unless you are a paranoid schizophrenic.

i agree, should be on everyone's bucket list. But i maintain that with the correct dose, with the ideal set and setting, LSD can be life changing