Author says Book of Revelation was put in Bible by mistake

Aardvark154

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Oh, I love how the righties get their shorts all in a twist over satire, which none of them understand.
Fine, you point out for us the TERB poster who has used a Khmer Rouge or Bolshevik poster altered to describe MSNBC commentators as being "just like that."
 

Aardvark154

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The americans would waste little time to send a drone over to kill that socialist SOB that healed poor people for nuthin.
Please go back to saying nasty things about Swedes, Danes have so much longer a history in that regard.
 

blackrock13

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Oh, I love how the righties get their shorts all in a twist over satire, which none of them understand. And I have "gross disrespect for the victims of the Nazis"? Both of my parents took on the nazis with their service in the RAF. I spent 15 years in the infantry. I have served alongside men and women who fought the bastards. Men who still carried the physical and emotional scars from places like Dieppe, Normandy, Italy, Singapore, Hong Kong, and North Africa. Men who helped liberate concentration camps. I can tell you from experience that many of them still had a sense of humour, and laughed at their enemy. I have friends whose parents were in concentration camps, and I have spent many hours socializing with them. You kids, you think you can read a history book and watch the History Channel, and become experts on how people were and how they thought. Live alongside such people, drink with them, share a slit trench with them, fight alongside them in a barroom brawl.

Now, let's get back to the original thread, the veracity of the bible. Nothing, absolutely sweet fuck all, of what you have said, has any bearing on whether it's true. Allegory is not fact, and a collection of bronze-age stories is not truth unless you can find evidence for all of it.

So far you have nothing more than a few archeological hits, but you follow the Erich von Däniken school of history, which allows you to construct a massive confabulation around some old walls.

I ain't falling for it.
A few archeology hits? WTF does that means other than you know so little about the archeology of the middle east. There probably isn't a more examined part of the world than the middle east and it has offered up countless records and artifacts covering most of the timeline of modern man. Just as was said in an earlier thread, the fact that nothing has been found doesn't mean it didn't or doesn't exist.

Having spent hours working on three historical documentaries and a half dozen or so museum presentations/displays and talked to 100s of people who lived it, read uncountable records relaying the events and personally visiting the sights, I still realize I don't have the whole picture and may never will, but I do have a better idea than many.

You just worry about what you know and how it reflects reality.
 

CapitalGuy

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Oh, I love how the righties get their shorts all in a twist over satire, which none of them understand. And I have "gross disrespect for the victims of the Nazis"? Both of my parents took on the nazis with their service in the RAF. I spent 15 years in the infantry. I have served alongside men and women who fought the bastards. Men who still carried the physical and emotional scars from places like Dieppe, Normandy, Italy, Singapore, Hong Kong, and North Africa. Men who helped liberate concentration camps. I can tell you from experience that many of them still had a sense of humour, and laughed at their enemy. I have friends whose parents were in concentration camps, and I have spent many hours socializing with them. You kids, you think you can read a history book and watch the History Channel, and become experts on how people were and how they thought. Live alongside such people, drink with them, share a slit trench with them, fight alongside them in a barroom brawl.

Now, let's get back to the original thread, the veracity of the bible. Nothing, absolutely sweet fuck all, of what you have said, has any bearing on whether it's true. Allegory is not fact, and a collection of bronze-age stories is not truth unless you can find evidence for all of it.

So far you have nothing more than a few archeological hits, but you follow the Erich von Däniken school of history, which allows you to construct a massive confabulation around some old walls.

I ain't falling for it.
Blah blah blah. First of all... you reveal your cards when you assume I'm a conservative. Second of all, if your little stories about your military service are true, then a) that explains why you don't have a refined sense of humour and b) it makes your Nazi references that much more offensive.

Sad.
 

basketcase

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Well you should read a little more slowly next time.

I read in many accounts that what was written has often panned out through archeological findings
So do a bunch of historical fiction books. That ancient aliens guy says he has archeological evidence too.
 

blackrock13

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So do a bunch of historical fiction books. That ancient aliens guy says he has archeological evidence too.
Saying he has evidence doesn't mean that the evidence will hold up to close examination and this guys evidence doesn't.

Historical fiction books do the opposite, They take historical events and rap a story around it, not the other way a round. I laughed at the presentations in the video.

Historical novels are the one written gendre that I can rightfully claim I've read hundredx and maybe nearer a thousand, some as a reader and some as a critic.
 

GPIDEAL

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The occasional archeological match-up, but nothing of consequence. No garden of Eden, no ark of either kind, no tower of Babel. And certainly no proof of any kind of miracle. Many works of fiction are set in places that really exist, the bible is no different.
Not that I don't respect the Bible (or the New Testament), but I couldn't have said what you just said better myself.
 

GPIDEAL

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So do a bunch of historical fiction books. That ancient aliens guy says he has archeological evidence too.
I'm not a big Ancient Aliens fan as I prefer to believe in present day true UFO sightings as possible ETs, but I don't think that Eric Von Daniken says that his findings are absolute proof of ancient aliens, or does he? He calls into question many things. Some of his findings though perhaps can be attributed to ancient folklore or idolic beliefs.

Question to Boss Nass, Blackrock13 and yourself: Have any of you seen The Lost Tomb of Jesus?

This Wiki-pedia article tells a different story of how Jacobovici's documentary is not sound from both an archeological and historical perspective, but when you watch the documentary, they sure try to make you think that it is Jesus' tomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Tomb_of_Jesus
 
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