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frankcastle

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Canada was "founded" quite a while back, something like 150 years back, and at that point in time, the vast majority of Canadians were religious.

Don't think we should rewrite history.

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Agreed. Not to mention I just added to my previous post that the Charter goes on to explicitly talk about freedom of religion.
 

Frankfooter

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Agreed. Not to mention I just added to my previous post that the Charter goes on to explicitly talk about freedom of religion.
Though I'd be for amending the Ontario charter to end provincial funding of the Catholic school board.
 

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OK but this was written in 1981 not 1867. The national anthem has been changed to remove discrimination against women, I don't see why they would keep this reference to God in charter when many canadians aren't represented by it
Look up the word "founded".

It is still correct about when Canada was "founded", regardless when it was "originally" written.

I am a none believer,...but rewriting history would be a lie.

Canada being only 150 years old, how the hell could it be influenced by ancient pre-christian Roman and Greek civilisation than Christianity

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frankcastle

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I disagree western countries laws are more influenced by ancient pre-christian Roman and Greek civilisation than Christianity.
Sure if you mean the roots of democracy.

But when you look at Canadian laws/values they reflect Christian beliefs/thoughts...... see prostitution, abortion, gay rights etc.

I thought Greeks were more open about homosexuality..... if that is the case then bath houses should not have been a problem.

Gladiators, feeding minorities to lions...... not really Canadian things if you ask me.

I know I'm picking sensational things but Christian belief is a big part of Canada that's why we pay for Catholic schools or why we tried to convert Aboriginals to Christianity. Our holidays show our Christian roots.
 

frankcastle

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I didn't say that christianity didn't have any influence at all but the influence of ancient roman and greek is more significant than christian influence.I'm not talking only about the roots of democracy but also Roman civil law influenced much of modern western laws, also the republican model of Rome influenced french and american revolution. Even human rights and justice were influenced by ancient Rome, for example romans were the first to come up with the concept that everyone who's accused of a crime should have the right to be heard and defend himself in a court.
As you can see in the three example you mentioned ( prostitution, abortion, gay rights) , Christianity influenced the laws in a negative way rather than positive. Canadians had to fight against their christian heritage to reform abortion laws and gay rights. Even with the ongoing debate about reforming prostitution laws, you can see that evangelical groups are the ones lobbying the government against decriminalization of sex trade . Romans had more positive attitude towards sex as you can see in the ancient brothels discovered in Pompeii
Whether the effects are positive or negative was not my point.

The format of the law may have the roots you suggested but the actual content was shaped by Christianity.

Also if you want to look at negatives you are glossing over slavery.
 

Galseigin

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Or in your case, the almighty God of nitpicking. Methinks you worship him above all others.
Nah, I worship Pink Pussy..has to be nice and symmetrical.
Once the Higher Pussy lowers on my face, I'm in heaven. :encouragement:
 

IM469

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If cops arrest you for soliciting or purchasing sex . They don't give you any other choice other than going to religious program run by salvation army or getting charged
I am not a religious person and I'd take Salvation Army over getting charged. I have nothing to fear from religion and worst case - they save my soul. My only problem during the religious incantations and chorus of hallelujahs is trying to stay awake.
 

frankcastle

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I recall the case of an atheist California man who was arrested for drugs possession. He successfully sued the cops and the government for not giving him the choice other than going to religious rehab program or getting charged. The courts said the cops violated his constitutional rights as an atheist and he should have been given the choice to go to a non religious rehab program.
I think John schools run by Salvation Army here in Canada could be sued by anyone who's atheist for the same reasons
In the case of suing over John school I imagine it won't happen as the John wants to stay anonymous.
 
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