At least 2 dead and dozens injured in attack on German Christmas market

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Are all terrorists are from birth. No , they go to Mosques, get taught by Imams. His ideology will not change from 2006 to 2024 ?. Can't understand a "mild" Muslim will kill Christians in Christmas. May be he was promised 72 hoor by local Imams.
And what information exists that shows that he went to a mosque, got radicalized into Islam and conducted a Muslim terror attack?
More mental gymnastics with absolutely zero information.
You want a certain narrative to be true and bash Muslims.
However the truth is he is a right wing extremist, and Islamophobe and this attack had nothing to do with Islamic fundamentalism.
 
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Suspect in German Christmas market attack had history of troubling social media posts that grew increasingly dark

December 22, 2024

The man accused of killing five people and injuring more than 200 others by ramming a car into a crowded German Christmas market had a history of making anti-Islam statements, which had grown increasingly dark and threatening towards Germany in recent months.

The suspect, Taleb Al Abdulmohsen, was arrested at the scene of the deadly attack in Magdenburg on Friday. German authorities said they believe he acted alone.

A Saudi Arabian citizen, the 50-year-old psychiatrist came to Germany in 2006. Once settled in the country, he began sharing advice online with other people about how to escape repressive regimes in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, setting up the platform wearesaudis.net.

While initially appreciative of Germany, in recent years he appeared to grow increasingly disgruntled with the country and its immigration policies. In 2015, Germany welcomed more than a million refugees from the Middle East but has since moved to tighten border controls.

German authorities said on Saturday that they were examining Al Abdulmohsen’s “dissatisfaction” with Germany’s treatment of refugees, although they said more time was needed to establish a motive.

On social media, Al Abdulmohsen posted openly about renouncing his Islamic faith, expressed sympathy for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party and accused Germany of promoting the Islamization of the country.

Earlier this year, he made dark threats against Germany and the German people online – something the German authorities were apparently alerted to. On his account on X, formerly Twitter, he posted in May to his nearly 50,000 followers: “German terrorism will be brought to justice. It’s very likely that I will die this year in order to bring justice.”

He made a similar statement in August, when he posted: “I assure you that if Germany wants a war, we will fight it. If Germany wants to kill us, we will slaughter them, die, or go to prison with pride.”

As part of efforts to promote his activism work, Al Abdulmohsen had been in touch with many media organizations, including CNN. He told news outlets he had regular contact with vulnerable women and would often be their only point of contact outside Saudi Arabia. He said he helped them plan travel to visa-free countries, and, on several occasions, he facilitated contact between these women and the media.

CNN communicated with him when reporting a story about two women who had fled Saudi Arabia for the former Soviet state of Georgia that was published in 2019. He helped facilitate contact with the women, although he was not interviewed for the piece.

The BBC interviewed him about his activism in 2019. He told the broadcaster he left Saudi Arabia after his life was threatened there. He said he spent up to “10 to 16 hours a day helping” Saudi asylum seekers and added that 90% of people contacting him were women. He also gave interviews to German media about his work.

His contact with CNN subsided around the time of the Covid-19 pandemic. However, Al Abdulmohsen began reaching out again early this year, sending a barrage of aggressive messages to the CNN journalist with whom he was previously in touch, which contained unsubstantiated stories and claims related to his advocacy work.

CNN ceased direct communication with him, blocking notifications from him on WhatsApp and X. Subsequent messages from Al Abdulmohsen sent on X, including direct threats against the German people that were similar to those he made publicly, were not seen by CNN until after the attack.

CNN has reached out to the police and public prosecutor’s office in Magdeburg for comment on whether Al Abdulmohsen was known to mental health services or other relevant agencies before the attack. The police declined to comment due to the ongoing investigation.

Authorities said that Al Abdulmohsen worked as a psychiatrist in Bernburg, a small town about 25 miles south of Magdeburg. The clinic that employed Al Abdulmohsen said he had been a psychiatric specialist at a correctional facility for criminals with addictions in Bernburg since March 2020, but added he had not been to work since October 2024 due to vacation and illness.

Al Abdulmohsen appeared particularly frustrated with Atheist Refugee Relief, a German NGO that was supporting women who escaped Saudi Arabia and other oppressive regimes while they awaited the results of their asylum claims. Messages sent by Al Abdulmohsen to CNN suggest he believed the group was disrupting his efforts and accused them, among other charges, of questioning whether he had instructed the women to say they had renounced Islam while claiming asylum.

He made some of the allegations against the group publicly on social media, which led to Atheist Refugee Relief making a formal complaint with the police in 2019. According to a statement published by the group on Saturday, Al Abdulmohsen was eventually ordered by the Cologne Regional Court to delete the defamatory and accusatory posts. The case is currently going through the appeals process.

Questions had also been raised about Al Abdulmohsen’s practice of publicizing the cases of some of the Saudi escapees despite the risks they would face if their asylum applications were rejected, and they had to return to Saudi Arabia.

The German Office for Migration and Refugees said Saturday it received a tipoff about him via social media. “This was taken seriously, as were all the other numerous tips,” the office said in a statement on X. “The person providing the information was referred directly to the responsible authorities, as is usual in such cases,” it said.

The warnings went well beyond social media statements.

Saudi authorities had warned their German counterparts about Al Abdulmohsen on several occasions, two sources with knowledge of the communications told CNN on Saturday.

The first warning came in 2007 and was connected to concerns held by Saudi authorities that Al Abdulmohsen had expressed radical views of varying kinds, one of the sources said.

Saudi Arabia considers the suspect a fugitive and requested his extradition from Germany between 2007 and 2008, the source said, adding that German authorities refused, citing concerns for the man’s safety should he return.

A second source told CNN the Saudis alerted Germany to the individual in four official notifications. Three of the notifications, known as “Notes Verbal,” were sent to the German intelligence services and one to the country’s foreign ministry. The source said all of the warnings were ignored.

CNN reached out to the German Foreign Ministry for comment about the warnings and was referred to the Ministry of Interior, which in turn referred CNN to the public prosecutor’s office in Magdeburg. CNN has not received a response from the prosecutor’s office.

Speaking to the German public broadcaster ZDF on Saturday, the president of the German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation Holger Münch confirmed that a tipoff from Saudi Arabia was received by his office and that “proceedings were initiated.”

Münch said the police in Saxony-Anhalt, where Magdenburg is the capital, then began investigating, but added the threats were too unspecific.

“The man also published a huge number of posts on the internet. He also had various contacts with the authorities, insults and threats. But he was not known for violent acts,” he told ZDF, adding that the case will need to be looked at again “to check again whether we, as security authorities, have let something slip.”

Münch said the action of the suspect appeared to follow “a completely atypical pattern” – something some experts have also pointed out.

“After 25 years in this ‘business’ you think nothing could surprise you anymore. But a 50-year-old Saudi ex-Muslim who lives in East Germany, loves the AfD and wants to punish Germany for its tolerance towards Islamists — that really wasn’t on my radar,” Peter Neumann, professor of security studies at King’s College London, wrote on X.

The German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser on Saturday described Al Abdulmohsen as “an Islamophobe,” but gave few other details and said the investigation was just starting.

A 9-year-old boy and four women, aged 45, 52, 67 and 75, died in the attack, police said in a statement on Sunday. Authorities are holding Al Abdulmohsen in pre-trial detention on five counts of murder, several counts of attempted murder and several counts of dangerous bodily harm.

 
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German authorities received tipoffs last year about the suspect in Christmas market attack
MICHAEL PROBST AND VANESSA GERA
December 22, 2024

MAGDEBURG, Germany (AP) — German authorities said they received tipoffs last year about the suspect in a car attack at a Christmas market in Magdeburg as more details emerged on Sunday about the five people killed.

Authorities have identified the suspect as a Saudi doctor who arrived in Germany in 2006 and had received permanent residency. Police haven’t publicly named the suspect, in line with privacy rules, but some German news outlets have identified him as Taleb A. and reported that he was a specialist in psychiatry and psychotherapy.

Authorities say he does not fit the usual profile of perpetrators of extremist attacks. The man described himself as an ex-Muslim who was highly critical of Islam and in many posts on social media expressed support for the far-right anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

He is being held in custody as authorities investigate him.

“This perpetrator acted in an unbelievably cruel and brutal manner — like an Islamist terrorist, although he was obviously ideologically an Islamophobe,” Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said Sunday.

The suspect originally lived in the state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, where he completed his specialist training in Stralsund and also came to the attention of authorities due to threatening criminal acts, the state interior minister, Christian Pegel, said Sunday.

In a dispute over the recognition of examination results, he threatened members of the state medical association with an act that would attract international attention, triggering an investigation and a search of his home, the dpa news agency reported, citing Pegel. No evidence was found of real preparations for an attack but a court found him guilty in 2013 of threatening an attack.

That was followed by other threats he made, Pegel said.

The head of the Federal Criminal Police Office, Holger Münch, said in an interview on the German broadcaster ZDF on Saturday that his office received a tipoff from Saudi Arabia in November 2023, which led authorities to launch “appropriate investigative measures.”

“The man also published a huge number of posts on the internet. He also had contact with various authorities, made insults and even threats. However, he was not known to have committed acts of violence,” said Münch, whose office is the German equivalent of the FBI.

He said that the warnings, however, proved to be very unspecific.

The Federal Office for Migration and Refugees also said it received a tipoff about the suspect in the late summer of last year.

“This was taken seriously, like every other of the numerous tips,” the office said on X on Saturday. But it also noted that it is not an investigative authority and that it referred the information to the responsible authorities. It gave no other details.

The Central Council of Ex-Muslims said in a statement that the suspect had “terrorized” them for years as it expressed shock at the attack.

“He apparently shared beliefs from the far-right spectrum of the AfD and believed in a large-scale conspiracy aimed at Islamizing Germany. His delusional ideas went so far that he assumed that even organizations critical of Islamism were part of the Islamist conspiracy,” said the statement.

The group’s chairwoman, Mina Ahadi, said in the same statement: “At first we suspected that he might be a mole in the Islamist movement. But now I think he is a psychopath who adheres to ultra-right conspiracy ideologies.”

Police in Magdeburg, the capital of the state of Saxony-Anhalt, said Sunday that those who died were four women aged 45, 52, 67 and 75, as well as a 9-year-old boy.

Authorities said 200 people were injured, including 41 in serious condition. They were being treated in multiple hospitals in Magdeburg, which is about 130 kilometers (80 miles) west of Berlin, and beyond.

The suspect was on Saturday evening brought before a judge, who behind closed doors ordered him to be kept in custody on allegations of murder and attempted murder. He is facing a possible indictment.

The horror triggered by yet another act of mass violence in Germany makes it likely that migration will remain a key issue as the country heads toward an early election on Feb. 23. A deadly knife attack by a suspected Islamic extremist from Syria in Solingen in August pushed the issue to the top of the agenda, and led the government of Chancellor Olaf Scholz to tighten border security measures.

Right-wing figures from across Europe have criticized German authorities for having allowed high levels of migration in the past and for what they see as security failures now.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who is known for a strong anti-migration position going back years, used the attack in Germany to lash out at the European Union’s migration policies and described it as a “terrorist act.”

At an annual press conference in Budapest on Saturday, Orbán insisted that “there is no doubt that there is a link between the changed world in Western Europe, the migration that flows there, especially illegal migration and terrorist acts.”

 
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Saudi warnings about market attack suspect were ignored
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The Saudi authorities, I am told, are currently working flat out to collate everything they have on the Magdeburg market suspect, Taleb al-Abdulmohsen, and to share it with Germany's ongoing investigation "in every way possible".

Inside the imposing sand coloured and fortress-like walls of the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Riyadh there is a perhaps justifiable sense of pique.

The ministry previously warned the German government about al-Abdulmohsen's extremist views.

It sent four so-called "Notes Verbal", three of them to Germany's intelligence agencies and one to the foreign ministry in Berlin. There was, the Saudis say, no response.

Part of the explanation for this may lie in the fact that Taleb al-Abdulmohsen was granted asylum by Germany in 2016, one year after the former Chancellor Angela Merkel threw open her country's borders to let in more than a million migrants from the Middle East, and 10 years after al-Abdulmohsen had taken up residence in Germany.

Coming from a country where Islam is the only religion permitted to be practised in public, al-Abdulmohsen was a very unusual citizen.

He had turned his back on Islam, making himself a heretic in the eyes of many.

Born in the Saudi date palm oasis town of Hofuf in 1974, little is known about his early life before he decided to leave Saudi Arabia and move to Europe aged 32.

Active on social media, on his Twitter (later X) account he labels himself as both a psychiatrist and founder of a Saudi rights movement, together with the tag @SaudiExMuslims.

He founded a website aimed at helping Saudi women flee their country to Europe.

The Saudis say he was a people trafficker and the Ministry of Interior's investigators, the Mabaatheth, are said to have an extensive file on him.

There have been reports in recent years of dissident Saudis coming under hostile surveillance from Saudi government agents, in Canada, the US and in Germany.

There is no question that the German authorities, both federal and state, have made some serious errors of omission in the case of al-Abdulmohsen.

Whatever their reasons for not responding, as the Saudis claim, to the repeated warnings about his extremism, he was seemingly a danger to his adopted host country.

There is also, separately, the failure to close off, or at least guard, the emergency access route to Magdeburg Alter Markt that allowed him to allegedly drive his BMW into the crowds.

German authorities have defended the market's layout and said an investigation into the suspect's past is ongoing.

But a complicating factor here is that Saudi Arabia, although considered a friend and ally of the West, has a poor human rights record.

Until June 2018 Saudi women were forbidden to drive and even those women who publicly called for that ban to be lifted before then have been persecuted and imprisoned.

Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, still only in his 30s, just, is immensely popular in his own country.

While Western leaders largely distanced themselves from him after his alleged involvement in the grisly murder of the Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi in 2018, which the crown prince denies, at home his star is still in the ascendant.

Under his de-facto rule, Saudi public life has transformed for the better, with men and women allowed to associate freely, and cinemas reopening, along with big, spectacular sports and entertainment events, even gigs performed by Western artists like David Guetta and the Black Eyed Peas.

But there is a paradox here.

While Saudi public life has flourished there has been a simultaneous crackdown on anything that even hints at more political or religious freedom.

Harsh prison sentences of 10 years or more have been handed down for simple tweets.

No-one is permitted to even question the way the country is run.

It is against this backdrop that Germany appears to have dropped the ball with Taleb al-Abdulmohsen.

 

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You grant asylum to a trouble maker then you have to
accept the risk that comes with it.

Some years ago the U.S. granted asylum to this teen
Amos Yee who got into trouble for the insults made to
the government in Singapore.The chap turned out to be
a pedophile and ended up jailed in the country that offered
him protection all for defense of his right to free speech.
Now the U.S. has to face the dilemma of finding a country
to deport him away after he is released from jail..

Terrorist attack like this one has more to do with immigration
policy than religion.
 
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"Pro-AfD" terror attack in Germany

The attack is likely to intensify calls for greater restrictions on free speech — and even for the AfD to be banned outright

THOMAS FAZI
DEC 21, 2024

In a chilling incident that has sent shockwaves through Germany, a terror attack unfolded yesterday at a Christmas market in Magdeburg, claiming the lives of at least two individuals, including a child, and injuring 68 others. Initially, Alternative for Germany (AfD) supporters — in Germany and abroad — seized on the attack, which displayed all the hallmarks of Islamist extremism, to criticise the German government’s pro-immigration policies, especially after it emerged that the suspect was a man from Saudi Arabia. “When will this madness end?” asked Alice Weidel, chair of the AfD. Elon Musk weighed in as well, targeting German authorities and calling for chancellor Olaf Scholz’s resignation. Overall, the attack appeared poised to boost support for the AfD in the upcoming German elections.

However, in a surprising twist of events, it has emerged that the suspect, Taleb Al Abdulmohsen, is, in fact, an anti-Islam ex-Muslim — and AfD supporter himself. Al Abdulmohsen has been living in Germany since 2006 and was granted refugee status in 2016. His social media activity indicates a strong anti-Islam stance and support for AfD’s policies, particularly concerning immigration and cultural assimilation. He was vocal about his belief that Germany should protect its borders against illegal migration, particularly from regions associated with Islamic fundamentalism. His public statements suggest that he views uncontrolled immigration as a threat to German society, advocating for stringent border controls and expressing disdain for what he perceived as the country’s leniency towards Muslim immigrants. He is also a fervent Israel supporter.

This latest development means that the attack’s impact could differ significantly from initial predictions. Far from bringing grist to AfD’s mill, the attack is likely to reinforce the establishment’s narrative that the party represents a dangerous threat to democracy, potentially leading to a backlash against the AfD, with voters associating the party with extremism and terrorism, thereby affecting its electoral prospects negatively. At the same time, the incident might polarise the electorate further, with some AfD supporters feeling vindicated by the attack in their support for the party. This polarisation could lead to unpredictable voter behavior in the upcoming elections, scheduled for February, with potential shifts in alliances and policy focus among the political spectrum.

Much will depend on how the AfD, the other parties and the government decide to respond to the incident. The attack will likely be used to justify increased scrutiny and monitoring of the AfD, already under surveillance by Germany’s intelligence services due to suspected extremist tendencies, especially if the party attempts to exploit the attack to further its anti-immigration stance. Furthermore, the attack is likely to intensify calls for greater restrictions on free speech — and even for the AfD to be banned outright. Just two days ago, the German parliament’s lower house, the Bundestag, approved a modification of the constitution in a bid to stop “extremists and populists” — i.e., the AfD — from influencing the federal constitutional court.

Overall, the impact of this attack is likely to be profound. Indeed, it’s hard not to see this as an attempt to influence the upcoming elections. For now, the mainstream establishment seems to be the primary beneficiary, but in these turbulent times, anything remains possible.


 
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