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Assessing Emmanuel Macron’s apocalyptic vision

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From the Economist....

Assessing Emmanuel Macron’s apocalyptic vision

Today’s europe owes its existence to the United States. America fought two world wars on European soil; American diplomacy was midwife to what became the European Union; American arms protected western Europe from Soviet invasion; and American statesmen oversaw German unification. Now, in a dramatic plea to all Europeans, France’s president, Emmanuel Macron, has warned that America is cutting Europe loose. The old continent is “on the edge of a precipice”, he warns. Unless it wakes up, “we will no longer be in control of our destiny.”

In his Elysée Palace office, Mr Macron spoke to The Economist in apocalyptic terms (see article). nato, the transatlantic alliance, is suffering from “brain-death”, he says; Europe needs to develop a military force of its own. The eu thinks of itself as just a market, but it needs to act as a political bloc, with policies on technology, data and climate change to match. Past French presidents have argued that Europe cannot rely on America, and should look to France instead. Mr Macron is not just rehashing this view. He believes that America and Europe have shared interests and has worked tirelessly to keep good relations with President Donald Trump. But he argues that for the first time America has a president who “does not share our idea of the European project”. And even if Mr Trump is not re-elected, historical forces are pulling the old allies apart.

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https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/11/07/assessing-emmanuel-macrons-apocalyptic-vision
 

danmand

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More "exeptionalism" crap. Almost the entire first paragraph is fictional.

But that is of course why you love it.
 

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From the Economist....

Assessing Emmanuel Macron’s apocalyptic vision

Today’s europe owes its existence to the United States. America fought two world wars on European soil; American diplomacy was midwife to what became the European Union; American arms protected western Europe from Soviet invasion; and American statesmen oversaw German unification. Now, in a dramatic plea to all Europeans, France’s president, Emmanuel Macron, has warned that America is cutting Europe loose. The old continent is “on the edge of a precipice”, he warns. Unless it wakes up, “we will no longer be in control of our destiny.”

In his Elysée Palace office, Mr Macron spoke to The Economist in apocalyptic terms (see article). nato, the transatlantic alliance, is suffering from “brain-death”, he says; Europe needs to develop a military force of its own. The eu thinks of itself as just a market, but it needs to act as a political bloc, with policies on technology, data and climate change to match. Past French presidents have argued that Europe cannot rely on America, and should look to France instead. Mr Macron is not just rehashing this view. He believes that America and Europe have shared interests and has worked tirelessly to keep good relations with President Donald Trump. But he argues that for the first time America has a president who “does not share our idea of the European project”. And even if Mr Trump is not re-elected, historical forces are pulling the old allies apart.

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https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/11/07/assessing-emmanuel-macrons-apocalyptic-vision
This is a conversation that started at the end of WWI and will be with us long after we're gone. Macron is just rehashing old ideas and playing on even older fears.
 

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More "exeptionalism" crap. Almost the entire first paragraph is fictional.

But that is of course why you love it.
What exceptionalism did you read? American exceptionalism? European exceptionalism?

If the former bothers you, just ignore the first paragraph and get to the second. It's true for the European Union to be dynamic it needs to have a broader construct. France has always been the EU/NATO nation the most independent of the United States' influence.

By the way, I am an exceptional speller. Just sayin'. :wink:
 

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Sorry but how does this relate to apocalypse? Seems the only think 'dying' is Europe's dependence on the US.
 

danmand

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What exceptionalism did you read? American exceptionalism? European exceptionalism?

If the former bothers you, just ignore the first paragraph and get to the second. It's true for the European Union to be dynamic it needs to have a broader construct. France has always been the EU/NATO nation the most independent of the United States' influence.

By the way, I am an exceptional speller. Just sayin'. :wink:
Maybe I should have continued after the first paragraph, but after that many fantasies, I quit
 

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Merkel is on the way out, and her CDU party is suffering at the polls; Merkel's chosen replacement appears to be a total idiot. Macron sees the chance for France taking over Europe's leadership from Germany/Merkel. Interesting that he wants a new European army, with him at the head of it of course. In fact, I think that he sees himself as a new Napoleon.
 
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