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Lmao......list of symptoms includes death . Death is a symptom ?
 

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The doom sayer are at it again.

Do your own research. Call the various medical research groups. If you do a web search confirm the owner of the site.

I did my research 2 years ago this article I found yeaterday.

But if you still believe this drival after you do your own research remember what the web docter say. "Solar flares from alpha centuri cause impotancy" Headaches are cured by a simple operation which can be performed at home. "First you take a chainsaw and remove the skull cap just above the eyes." The cure to STDs is to castrate all male children at birth. Within 30 year STD will be a thing of the past.

As a you can see just because it is in print does not make it so. but stupid people will believe anything.

Again do your own research.

A Web of Deceit
The latest e-mail scare campaign attacks an artificial sweetener. Here's how to find the truth
BY CHRISTINE GORMAN

Heard the one about the common shampoo ingredient that causes cancer? Or how about the epidemic of blindness among toddlers who accidentally get waterproof sunscreen in their eyes? These absurd fictions used to be the stock-in-trade of ninth-graders bent on frightening the younger kids. But now such tall tales are appearing on the Internet, and many adults are taking them seriously.

Consider the latest electronic health scare: about the artificial sweetener aspartame, which is found in everything from Equal to Diet Coke. A widely disseminated e-mail by a "Nancy Markle" links aspartame to Alzheimer's, birth defects, brain cancer, diabetes, Gulf War syndrome, lupus, multiple sclerosis and seizures. Right away, the long list warrants skepticism. Just as no single chemical cures everything, none causes everything.

In this and similar cases, all the Nancy Markles of the world have to do to fabricate a health rumor is post it in some Usenet news groups and let ordinary folks, who may already distrust artificial products, forward it to all their friends and e-mail pals. I received several copies last week, as have many doctors and health organizations.

When I searched Altavista www.altavista.com) for aspartame AND brain AND seizure AND sclerosis, I learned that Markle's message is almost identical to an antiaspartame screed first penned under a different name in 1995. None of the specific allegations pan out, however. Among the more outrageous claims:

--Aspartame leads to "methanol toxicity." Not even close. Trace amounts of methanol exist naturally in many fruits and vegetables, and a tiny amount is released whenever the body digests aspartame. But there's four times as much methanol in a glass of tomato juice as in a can of aspartame-sweetened soda, and our bodies have no trouble handling such a tiny amount.

--Aspartame triggers headaches. Wrong again, says Susan Shiffman, a medical psychologist at Duke University who conducted a double-blind placebo-controlled trial of 40 "aspartame sensitive" people. A little probing often revealed the real trouble. One woman, who often ate peanuts with her diet soda, was allergic to peanuts. Another drank too much caffeine.

--Aspartame is responsible for the recent uptick in brain-cancer rates. So how do you explain that the trend dates back to 1973, eight years before aspartame was approved in the U.S.?

Curiously, Markle didn't warn against aspartame's single known health risk. Folks with an uncommon genetic disorder called phenylketonuria shouldn't consume the sweetener because they cannot metabolize one of its ingredients.

Before you decide to believe or, worse, forward an e-mail with serious health claims, do a little checking.
Start on the Web with
http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blasp.htm
http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blasp2.htm
which catalogues the more persistent rumors. Then go to reliable health sites, like
mayohealth.org, (for general health),
www.medhelp.org, (especially good for cardiology), www.oncolink.org or cancernet.nci.nih.gov (for cancer) or www.navigator.tufts.edu (for nutrition). Otherwise, you might get caught in a web of confusion.


Nothing But the Truth...
Waterproof sunscreen won't blind you Shampoo won't give you cancer Aspartame sweetens your life without shortening it
 

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Thanks AJA , I figured something was a little off-kilter when they classified death as a symptom . Amazing what people will believe just because it's in print .
 

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In the states, where health regs are more strict than Canada, Nutrasweet sugar bags have in red ink: Aspartame has been found to cause brain tumors in lab rats.
 

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train said:
Lmao......list of symptoms includes death . Death is a symptom ?
You gotta like the word death listed as a possible side-effect. :) Talk about Russian Roulette.



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Aspartame has been found to cause brain tumors in lab rats.
Before you quote stats get it right.

The National Cancer Institute web site states

Aspartame

Aspartame, an artificial sweetener distributed under several trade names (e.g., Nutrasweet or Equal), was approved in 1981 by the FDA after tests showed that it did not cause cancer in laboratory animals, although not all of the laboratory experiments agreed. Interest in aspartame was renewed by a 1996 report suggesting that an increase in the number of people with brain tumors between 1975 and 1992 might be associated with the introduction and use of this sweetener in the United States. However, an analysis of then-current NCI statistics showed that the overall incidence of brain and central nervous system cancers began to rise in 1973, 8 years prior to the approval of aspartame, and continued to rise until 1985. Moreover, increases in overall brain cancer incidence occurred primarily in people 70 and older, a group that was not exposed to the highest doses of aspartame since its 1981 introduction. These and other data do not point to a clear link, based on animal or human studies, between the use of aspartame and the development of brain tumors. The FDA still considers aspartame safe.

Their URL is
http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/3_19.htm


American Cancer Society web site states

Aspartame

Does aspartame cause cancer?

Aspartame is a low-calorie artificial sweetener that is about 200 times sweeter than sugar. Currently, evidence does not show any link between aspartame ingestion and increased cancer risk. People with the genetic disorder known as phenylketonuria should avoid aspartame in their diets.

Their URL is
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_3_2X_Common_Questions_About_Diet_and_Cancer.asp

If this does not work try this one and do a search for Aspartame

http://www.cancer.org/guide/giudswsee.html

does more have to be said on this subject.

Wake up.
 

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gimme a break

Please...they did this with cyclamate years ago..

Check the sugar industry for the link to the web site..

Too much water will kill ya too.........
 

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Aspartame

I can't wait for my taxes to go up when we have to start paying for all the 60 year olds who need constant care because of the chemicals voluntarily injested. Call it what you want, aspartame is a chemical, sugar is not. I know what sugar does to me.
Did you know what the insulation in your walls did to you 40-50 years ago?
How about the thalidomide babies born without arms in the 60's.
Take your chances but I like mine with sugar and butter. I can work off the fat. How can I get rid of Parkinson's disease?

It's all goverment mind control anyway.
 

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Don't know if it's harmful or not, although I tend to be skeptical of subtitutes for the real thing in general. Personally, I never liked Nutrasweet, et al, because I thought it tasted like crap.
 
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It wouls not surprise me if it had some long term side effects.. after all.. what is not bad for us???

for about the last 10 years, I have lived on Diet Coke.. drinking 6-10 cans a day. until I recently decided to cut the bad stuff out of my diet (transfats and aspartame).

when will there be a class acion suit against the companies who used aspartame and the one which manufactured it???
 

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AJA

Your attempts to validate your viewpoint by insulting those with other views, not withstanding, I think you need to check your facts AJA. What are you relying on? Research by the producers of Nutra Sweet? A psychologist Susan Shiffman (not a doctor) who studied 40 people? What is a double blind placebo-controlled trial anyway?

AJA Wrote:
Again do your own research.
Link> Try reading Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic. by H. J. Roberts, M.D., F.A.C.P., F.C.C.P.
Dr. Roberts is a world renowned Board Certified and Recertified Internist. Internationally known as a medical consultant and independent researcher. He is the Director of the Palm Beach Institute for Medical Research since l964 and a member of prestigious medical and scientific organizations. They include the American College of Physicians, the Endocrine Society and the American Academy of Neurology. The editors of a national medical publication selected Dr. Roberts as "The Best Doctor in the U.S." He has been knighted by the Order of St. George for his professional and humanitarian effort. His first text, Difficult Diagnosis, was used by 60,000 doctors, especially to prepare for their Board examinations. And most importantly (to me anyway) it was he who declared Aspartame Disease to be a global plague.

Just as no single chemical cures everything, none causes everything.
Dr. Roberts said, "Aspartame doesn't spare any structure or system in the body so its not logical to try and mentally isolate it to a few structures or few systems of the body. In fact, the FDA identified 92 documented symptoms triggered by aspartame including death, the ultimate symptom."


Even your math is flawed.
--Aspartame leads to "methanol toxicity." Not even close. Trace amounts of methanol exist naturally in many fruits and vegetables, and a tiny amount is released whenever the body digests aspartame. But there's four times as much methanol in a glass of tomato juice as in a can of aspartame-sweetened soda, and our bodies have no trouble handling such a tiny amount.
The 10% Methanol content (wood grain alcohol) places about 18 mg in a 300ml serving of diet soda. That's more than twice the daily tolerance set by the EPA of 7.8mg. And who only drinks one diet cola per day?
Wife, mother, Sunday School teacher wrongfully convicted of murdering her husband with methanol poison; aspartame not even indicted (yet)

I myself have been a long-time sufferer from the effects of Aspartame without knowing it. Chronic headaches, and eye inflamation (iritis) and sarchoid (in the form of respiratory inflammation) manifesting itself as sleep apnea.

It took me 15 years to realize my problems had a trigger and other 5 to realize it was aspartame. I suspected and tried to compensate for poor sleep, dehydration, caffeine, you name it. Eventually I cut out all forms of Aspartame and suffered no ill effects or flareups until I challenged my own judgement just this past month and switched back to diet beverages.

And that's how I ended up here in my tin-foil hat spouting off.
 

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And who says that sugar is chemical free now either, unless you grow your own sugar cane. Is anything actually chemical free now? Even organically grown products are coated with unregulated pesticides and fertilizers. Soap based products are commonly used as pesticides.

It's six of one and half dozen of another. I don't believe that any food taken in moderation presents much more of a hazard than any other.
 

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Re: Aspartame

Mac Daddy said:
I can't wait for my taxes to go up when we have to start paying for all the 60 year olds who need constant care because of the chemicals voluntarily injested. Call it what you want, aspartame is a chemical, sugar is not. I know what sugar does to me.
Did you know what the insulation in your walls did to you 40-50 years ago?
How about the thalidomide babies born without arms in the 60's.
Take your chances but I like mine with sugar and butter. I can work off the fat. How can I get rid of Parkinson's disease?

It's all goverment mind control anyway.
Wow ....someone who believes that sugar and butter isn't bad for you . Guess I better save up so my taxes will pay for your treatments for stoke , heart attack , vision problems , adult onset diabetes drugs etc etc . On second thought you will be cheap 'cause you won't live past 60 and the Gov doesn't normally pay for dental .
 

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What's worse - a food that's bad for you or an insidious poison marketed as a healthier alternative to food that's bad for you?

I'm not here to suggest to anyone that they change their lifestyle - or adopt a macrobiotic diet (cane sugar vs. refined argument...) just that as I sit here putting drops in my eyes for the second time today, and put on my glasses due to premature nearsightedness caused by eroded corneas, I am wondering why I wasn't given fair warning?

Our bodies process sugar and fat in moderation. Of course sugar and fat in excess is bad for us as well. Anything in excess -- even water is bad for us -- and can cause encephalitis (this message buffer needs a spell checker). But aspartame in any quantity small or large is simply poisonous.
 

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Hey boys,

Aspartame in all likelyhood 'causes'(its all risk probability dude) cancer as well as who knows what else, there is evidence to point toward mirror images of the molecule being formed in its production. By mirror images I just mean left and right handed orientations of the molecules. Living things only use one orientation most of the time, so the other does not get metabolized so it is toxic. Think Thalidomide.

Processed sugar is not too good either but probably not as bad, kind of like butter compared to margarine.

I would advise against aspartame, just stop being such a friggin pig and eat less.

My $0.02. Oh, and I am a biologist, in fact I am doing my Ph.D, for what it is worth to you terbites.
 

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Hey AJA, when you're laying in bed dying from cancer, make sure you don't blame your shampoo or artificial sweetners. I read articles published in the 80s and early 90s that talk about everyday products that we come in contact with that have increased the risk of cancer.

How long was asbestos used, and they were still mining it in 78? Silica can cause serious problems in the lungs. They built houses with Ureaformaldehyde as the insulation in the late 60s and 70s. A Ureaformaldehyde dome house was built in Muskoka, and I saw what radiation from the sun did to it. Look at SM that has sat in the sun, and don't breathe the dust from it.

The FDA banned a fat that was used by a potato chip company, because it acted as a laxative. binding fibre and nutrients together so they weren't being absorbed. Health Canada said it was ok, not to worry.

The point I'm going to make is that there are several thousands of chemicals out there, that have never been tested for safety when they are used in conjunction with other chemicals. I have a sensitivity to glycol, PVC and some oils, after continuous exposure from previous jobs. I can eat natural ascorbic acid, but the synthetic form gives me a rash.
 

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but aspartame isn't a food. It's a chemical
And food isn't? It's all chemistry son, except the stuff that's physics. Of course, YMMV
 

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Chemistry 101

oldjones said:
And food isn't? It's all chemistry son, except the stuff that's physics. Of course, YMMV
What I think he was trying to say was that some things occur naturally in food, rather than man made chemical substitutes that are put in processed foods
 
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