Are Anarchist Taking Over Society?

[slowandeasy]

There seems to be a trend in our society to challenge every rule, law or contract. There used to be few people who felt they qualified as the exception to the rule, but it now seems that most people feel they should be exempt.

When people are finally caught and asked to pay the price, many resort to the claim that they are being made an example of and given an unusually harsh punishment.

No one seems to understand that "two wrongs do not make a right"

I can understand that people want to have/deserve personal freedom.
Many in our society don't seem to understand that they are part of society, and that their personal freedom should not
take precedence over the rest of society.

Many don't respect that it is our society that has banded together to provide us with the opportunity that we have, and as such, we have a duty to society, not the other way around.

There is alot more to this, that I can post later.

My goal in posting is not to start a bitchfest, just a discussion.

 

[Aardvark154]

There seems to be a trend in our society to challenge every rule, law or contract. There used to be few people who felt they qualified as the exception to the rule, but it now seems that most people feel they should be exempt.

While I agree you do have a point, I wouldn't describe that as Anarchism.

 

[acutus]

This could be a potentially interesting and worthwhile discussion, Mr. Slowandeasy; although one has to be aware of the context of this site for meaningful dialogue... Most discussions here on this site seem to degenerate into idiotic, anonymous, foul mouthed, 'pissing' matches. But still, in my view, an interesting topic for discussion. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[blackrock13]

This could be a potentially interesting and worthwhile discussion, Mr. Slowandeasy; although one has to be aware of the context of this site for meaningful dialogue... Most discussions here on this site seem to degenerate into idiotic, anoynomous, foul mouthed, 'pissing' matches. But still, in my view, an interesting topic for discussion. Sincerely, Jon .

Feel free to contribute then.

As Aartie said this is far from anarchy. With freedom comes responsibility and many of the loudest voices for freedom are also those who aren't willing t take the responsibilities that come with it.

 

[5hummer]

You mean hypocritical right wingers? :Eek:

 

[GPIDEAL]

Yes, two wrongs don't make a right (unless you're in the Mob or a criminal conspiracy, where the rule of law doesn't apply he he).

However, what may be considered peaceful protest or freedom of speech isn't necessarily anarchism (in case that's what the OP was implying).

 

[slowandeasy]

While I agree you do have a point, I wouldn't describe that as Anarchism.

It is not just one particular thing that is happening, but it is the overall attitude of "me before everyone else" that seems to have soaked into our society.
Its the lady who wants to cut down all the oak trees around the school because her child has an allergy; its the guy who gets pulled over by the cops
and gives them attitude, then gets upset that he was treated badly; its the peace protesters who turn violent; its all this and so much more.

 

[canada-man]

 

[escortsxxx]

Anarchism often gets a bad rap. Ironically, many people are anarchists without realizing: when it comes down to it they don't believe that another should have the right to their life troop there own right. Do you believe that the goverment has the moral right to give your tickets? Or do you believe that the system of tickets is right because it serves a useful purpose? Do you believe that the state should ban paid sex is then morally right? Or do you believe that it is just a way to control society, perhaps a good decsion perhaps a bad one but to disobey is not neceesarly immoral? That being said, there si a push away from any kind of pesonal responsiblity, a form of chaos, and in this use of the word Anarchy is on the rise. But that the same with any large community. More free riders, more newbies without interest in the old rules. And more options for immoral characters to steal unnoticed.

 

[diehard]

Hay gobierno, soy contra!

 

[basketcase]

While I agree you do have a point, I wouldn't describe that as Anarchism.

I agree. I would term it selfishness.

 

[Clear History]

If civilization were to implement anarchy as I understand it, we'd be back to hunting and gathering in no time.

 

[shack]

While I agree you do have a point, I wouldn't describe that as Anarchism.

I agree. I consider it extremism combined with people not willing to compromise. One need only look at American political gridlock.

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

BUT..... 2 Wrights made an airplane !! lol :dance:

 

[blackrock13]

If civilization were to implement anarchy as I understand it, we'd be back to hunting and gathering in no time.

...and billions would die. A really good reason it will not happen. The reason that kind of life all but died out was because it was inefficient.

 

[Moviefan-2]

There used to be few people who felt they qualified as the exception to the rule, but it now seems that most people feel they should be exempt.

I take exception to that remark.

 

[nobody123]

Methinks Canada Man has the gist of it: it's only Anarchy when it is smelly hippies and punks wanting to smoke dope. Which, come on, is a pretty insignificant issue in the grand scheme of things. But the increasing influence of libertarianism is a troubling thing all right. Governments reducing the scope of their activities and/or ceding authority and oversight to industries might sound like a cost-effective taxpayer-friendly way to run things, but the result is tragedies like Lac Migantic, Walkerton, e-coli in meat, etc etc etc. Not to mention that deregulation directly resulted in the US housing bubble and global financial clusterfuck of 2008 that we are still crawling out of.

So yeah, these "anarchists" are indeed taking over society, and people suffer and die as a result.

 

[Catherine St.Claire]

I had an extremely up close experience with anarchists this last year and I will say it changed my opinion of them entirely. I met a girl thru my daughter who immediately identified as an organized anarchist. This girl came and helped me in the final months of caring for my life partner who died of melanoma in April and she proved herself more than worthy of a spot in my life as did her companions. They arrived after his death to help us put his home straight so his family didn't have to see the mess left by the paramedics that final night. They brought food, cleaned the house top to bottom and took the yard on for the first spring clean up. I mean a swarm of 20 somethings that I can't even remember what they looked like descended, worked and left. Then they were gone and I sat in shock see how much they did in a matter of hours. They never asked for a thank you. If this is anarchy, I'd buy in. I also know that if I ended up in a serious life situation that I needed trench soldiers to stand beside me, they would be the first ones I'd call.

Thru her, I ended up with several of them staying at my home while they came from all over the country to support a SCC case being heard about police accountability here in Ottawa. I saw a group of young idealists that actually walked the walk. They are politically aware altho a tad naive, they are socially conscious, environmentally aware and most definitely sacrifice for the good of the "whole". They band together for common causes like fund raising for the lawyers of the families in court and those they know that are less fortunate. They all work, most have multiple jobs and they are not afraid to take a job that other kids their age feel is "below them". Their sense of responsibility is astounding. They are very tech savvy and well networked across the country. I know that a year ago my impressions of the hippy/witchy were very different and I feel I'm a more rounded person having known them. The last 5 years my faith in humanity has take several serious hits and these kids give me hope...

cat

 

[5hummer]

I saw a group of young idealists that actually walked the walk. They are politically aware altho a tad naive, they are socially conscious, environmentally aware and most definitely sacrifice for the good of the "whole". They band together for common causes like fund raising for the lawyers of the families in court and those they know that are less fortunate. They all work, most have multiple jobs and they are not afraid to take a job that other kids their age feel is "below them". Their sense of responsibility is astounding. They are very tech savvy and well networked across the country. ...

+1 Agree.

Non-believers are more evolved.

 

[Moviefan-2]

Governments reducing the scope of their activities and/or ceding authority and oversight to industries might sound like a cost-effective taxpayer-friendly way to run things, but the result is tragedies like Lac Migantic, Walkerton, e-coli in meat, etc etc etc.

And during periods of huge government expansion, we have C. difficile deaths, people dying in Ornge helicopters, people dying when a mall roof collapses in Elliot Lake, a young woman being shot to death on Yonge Street on Boxing Day, etc., etc., etc.

Big government hasn't made us any safer.

(By the way, the two brothers responsible for the Walkerton tragedy didn't work for "industries." They were both well-paid government employees).