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You should really read up on Iranian "democracy".

Perhaps we should have a real debate on whether Iranian or Israeli governments represent their minorities and protect them better.
Why not start with a discussion of which country puts more of their natives in prison camps?
Or which country doesn't allow nearly 2 million of their natives full rights or votes under their rule?

 

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So sad that you think the one state solution with equal rights is 'racist elitism'.....

You telling foreign people that their opinion isn't important because you know better is absolutely racist elitism, no different than what European colonizers claimed.

Sorry but the Israelis, Palestinians, and the UN all hate the idea you want to force people into. Hamas also rejects the idea but you would never criticize them for it.

 

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Perhaps we should have a real debate on whether Iranian or Israeli governments represent their minorities and protect them better....

You wouldn't like it because it would be yet another thread where your bullshit gets exposed.

Why don't you read the reports from the rights groups you pretend to support on Iran and religious minorities. Even an extremely superficial look at their treatment of Baha'i people would expose you as a complete fraud. Sorry but only one of those countries has complete legal freedom for people of all religions and where minority figures have hold prominent positions in all aspect of life.

But you have this obsession with Israel and Jews so you will continue to pretend Iran are the good guys.

 

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You telling foreign people that their opinion isn't important because you know better is absolutely racist elitism, no different than what European colonizers claimed.

Sorry but the Israelis, Palestinians, and the UN all hate the idea you want to force people into. Hamas also rejects the idea but you would never criticize them for it.

The one state apartheid solution you keep pushing isn't any more popular, you know.
Both sides say the two state solution is dead, so you can stop flogging that horse.

 

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You wouldn't like it because it would be yet another thread where your bullshit gets exposed.

Why don't you read the reports from the rights groups you pretend to support on Iran and religious minorities. Even an extremely superficial look at their treatment of Baha'i people would expose you as a complete fraud. Sorry but only one of those countries has complete legal freedom for people of all religions and where minority figures have hold prominent positions in all aspect of life.

But you have this obsession with Israel and Jews so you will continue to pretend Iran are the good guys.

I'm sure that Iran's treatment of minorities isn't good, but do they wall them in an open air prison where they are running out of food, water and power and then shoot them if they get too close to the fence or protest about their conditions?
Is Iran apartheid?

Should Iran sink to those levels it would be an interesting debate, until then, you'd lose bigly.

 

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I'm sure that Iran's treatment of minorities isn't good, but do they....

And once again you pretend Israel's Gaza policy is based on race. Sorry but 20% of Israel's population are the same religion as people in Gaza and they have full rights and 3 million in the West Bank don't suffer those deprivations (though they would be better of if PA corruption decreased).

There is religious hatred in the Gaza conflict but that is from the Hamas leadership who continue conflict and terrorism because they want to rid the area of Jews and create an Islamic state.

 

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The one state apartheid solution you keep pushing isn't any more popular, you know....

And just another case where you pathetically lie about my views. I support the UN on this (the actual UN, not some well-screened employee hired by a bunch of dictators.

I know you hate the idea of a Two State peace because it means Israel can continue to exist but that is the only peace concept endorsed by Israel, the PA, the Arab League, the UN, and most everyone else.

I know this won't stop you from trying to impose your will on the Palestinians who detest your idea and won't stop you from continued support for Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Fatah's armed wing who all think that their terrorism will eventually rid the region of Jews.

 

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And once again you pretend Israel's Gaza policy is based on race.

How big is the Jewish population in Gaza?
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Its based on race.

 

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And just another case where you pathetically lie about my views. I support the UN on this (the actual UN, not some well-screened employee hired by a bunch of dictators.

No, you keep backing more and more settlements and the government that took away all the chances for the two state solution.
You've repeatedly stated that you think the settlements 'aren't the problem', yet cannot name a solution that would work with the settlements.
You continue to back the ongoing apartheid rule while giving lip service only to the two state solution, continuing to try to blame its failure on Israel, while actively supporting more settlements and the end of the two state solution.

That's how you are backing the one state apartheid solution.

 

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How big is the Jewish population in Gaza?
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Its based on race.

And look at you complaining now that Israel evacuated settlements. You are a joke with your racist excuses.

p.s. Considering how often Hamas targets random Jews, how do you think any Jews would fare in Gaza?

 

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No, you keep backing more and more settlements

Show me one post where I supported more settlements?

and the government that took away all the chances for the two state solution.

Show me one post where I support Netanyahu's government.

You've repeatedly stated that you think the settlements 'aren't the problem',

I have said they arent the biggest problem. Settlements can be evacuated and handed over to new owners or as the UN/Arab League support, can be swapped for other land.

yet cannot name a solution that would work with the settlements.

WTF are you talking about? Settlements will either be evacuated again or traded for other land.


I get your anger and need for continual lying because you know your rejection Palestinian will, your support for groups like Hamas who completely reject peace and equal rights, and you racist obsession with Israel can't be justified.

 

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And look at you complaining now that Israel evacuated settlements. You are a joke with your racist excuses.

You claimed that Israel's policy in Gaza wasn't based on race and now admit that it is because Israel 'evacuated settlements'.
This confirms you think Israel's policies in settlements are racist as well as Gaza.

Thanks.

 

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Show me one post where I supported more settlements?

Show me one post where I support Netanyahu's government.


I have said they arent the biggest problem. Settlements can be evacuated and handed over to new owners or as the UN/Arab League support, can be swapped for other land.

WTF are you talking about? Settlements will either be evacuated again or traded for other land.


I get your anger and need for continual lying because you know your rejection Palestinian will, your support for groups like Hamas who completely reject peace and equal rights, and you racist obsession with Israel can't be justified.

Traded for what land?
Banthustans?

Draw a map where you think this 'land' is that will be 'traded'?
Why is Israel trading land that you have previously stated is Palestine?
Do you really think Israel will abandon all settlements, or give up land inside of Israel?

This supposed support of the two state solution is like butlers support of Sanders.
Its trolling.

 

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And once again you pretend Israel's Gaza policy is based on race.

Israel killed about 300 and injured about 14,000 protesters in Gaza.
How many of those were Jewish?
How many were Palestinian?
Why do you claim that is not based on race?

 

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Traded for what land?...

Abbas had previously agreed in principle to the idea. The only disagreement was how much land with last time they actually had talks, Abbas was okay with something like 3% of the West Bank while Israel wanted 5%. But here you are once again telling the Palestinians you know better.

Of course what you are doing is looking for excuses to justify your hatred of Israel and your desire to eliminate it. Sadly you think Hamas' terrorism is a better plan that peace talks.

How do you think Hamas terrorism is doing anything to further peace?

 

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How many of those were Jewish?...

Your arguments are getting stupider by the second. Next you are going to be praising Hamas because some of their terror attacks accidentally kill Arabs proves they support equality.


Of course your stupidity is expected since you have no rebuttal to 20% of Israeli citizens being Arabs.

 

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Abbas had previously

Right, in other words you have no other solution so you go back to blaming Palestinians for the occupation.
Back to justifying the apartheid status quo with minor lip service to the failed two state solution.

You broke it, you bought it.

 

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Your arguments are getting stupider by the second.

You claimed Israel's policy in Gaza wasn't racist.
If that policy isn't racist how do you explain this:

Israel killed about 300 and injured about 14,000 protesters in Gaza.
How many of those were Jewish?
How many were Palestinian?
Why do you claim that is not based on race?

 

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You claimed Israel's policy in Gaza wasn't racist....

Yes, it is a policy to stop the racists of Hamas and Islamic Jihad from ethnically cleansing Jews from the region. Of course you never comment on those racists.

 

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Right, in other words you have no other solution so you go back to blaming Palestinians for the occupation.
Back to justifying the apartheid status quo with minor lip service to the failed two state solution.

You broke it, you bought it.

Sadly it is the Palestinian and Arab leadership that have spent the past 80 years refusing to "buy" peace with Jewish neighbours. How do you suggest peace be achieved when the side you back is violently opposed to anything less than a region without Jews?

I find it amazing that you claim to support equal rights but don't have a word or criticism for the Palestinian leadership or the Palestinian people who outright reject you idea. If I didn't know better I'd think that you are driven more by racism than you are by human rights.