Anyone have any luck with SP as therapy?

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For an incall I'm showing up, taking a 20m shower to shake the nerves. Then mostly cuddling while quiet to be real with you. Talking a bit about life, then usually leave. Haven't nutted once from fear had one SP call me a porn star because of it, definitely not a relaxed environment for me. Physical touch is definitely a struggle.

That carries over to dating, I'll be able to walk around have the normal interactions, but the moment it comes to escalating I freeze up and I "lose the window" to go further, even when I'm pretty sure they're interested.

That's a great idea about focusing more on the dinner date aspect, I think you're hitting pay dirt with making sure it's more of an accurate simulation with role playing and real world situations.
Absolutely.
And it is great to hear that you are also getting therapy, because, it all starts there. But I think even a therapist would have to agree that this is a logical step for helping to deal with it, if they could take the legality out of the assessment.

What you describe is much like a phobia. And most therapists at some point turn to exposure therapy to help one overcome a phobia. A full on, real world like, social interaction experience with an SP is exactly that. Exposure therapy. The difference being that it is more controlled to ensure it will go in the direction of intimacy you need it to, in order to get the exposure you require.
When you are comfortable, you can then attempt the social exercise with civilians and not SPs, so that if the scenario does lead to intimacy, you will have the built up comfort level to go with it.
 
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I congratulate you for taking action on trying to fix or self improve in areas of your life you're not happy about. Whether its right or wrong or dangerous doesn't really matter. So many people just don't do anything and let the years go by without earnestly attempting to address something. Kudos to you for taking some leaps and trying something new.

I can tell you that I have used this hobby and sugar daddy relationships over several decades to self improve. While I can't claim it was the smartest or safest or most efficient use of the money I earned, I can tell you that it absolutely aided me in improving in areas of my life that I set my mind to.

When my first marriage collapsed, this hobby helped me avoid plenty of ridiculous rebound relationship traps. I was a wreck, I had zero confidence, I was out of control on partying etc... but once I settled in and knowing I could get laid with just a phone call or email, helped me gain my confidence back, kept me focused on work and saved me from chasing women that weren't good for me. Saved me from taking shit from terrible girlfriends who tried to manipulate me because I could actually think with my head and not my dick knowing that if this girl left, I wouldn't be alone.

When I got really busy with work and had no time to date but I had the need for companionship with my fucked up schedule, doing the whole sugar daddy thing and continuing to hobby really worked. For nearly two decades, no matter what my schedule was, or where I travelled, or what not, the arrangements I had with my lovers really helped. I didn't get pressured to do her work events, or her friend's wedding, or show up every weekend predictably. I didn't have to argue labels in a relationship or "when are we going to move in together' or all the other headaches that came with relationships. We enjoyed our time together, set boundaries on time and expectation and still had some semblance intimacy. Out of 4 women I entered into this kind of relationship over the years, 3 are still my good friends and are aunts to my children and friends with my now wife. 4th... well, that was because someone caught feelings and we couldn't recover from it. Whatever it was, majority of them morphed from transaction to true friendship. When I did meet a woman I wanted to give a try at marrying, i could sunset some of those relationships (a little hard to do, but was needed to give an honest shot at dating someone) and when that relationship broke up, I went right back into paid companionship while I calmly started meeting new people. Its easy to do one and done dates or take a short time getting to know a woman and walk away because you're not horny and thinking about getting laid.

I'm married, we're all happy, have successful kids and we still have fun and experiment around as a couple with professionals which in my opinion, de-risks having threesomes turning into affairs. Hell, at one point in time, my wife and I were having some issues and one crazy weekend trip we took with a companion set us on our path because of something the companion said that really hit home for both of us. it was like a lightbulb went on in both our heads while we were chilling out late night after some fun.

I absolutely think if you're level headed, realistic and are able to set good boundaries with yourself and others, this hobby can really help many men figure shit out.
 
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I remember having this discussion with you in the past. If not you then it was a very similar story with some else. I don’t remember names but I remembered these type of exchanges. Glad things are getting better and you’re getting your shit together 👏 I think others may benefit from your positive experiences with SPs. There are many lurkers on here I find who never or rarely comment but you can tell are going through similar experiences and mindset.
If it was a tall bald guy with a beard in Ottawa, you might have!

Beautiful thing about the wide world is I'm not truly unique, so finding people who have walked similar paths can yield great insight. So cheers for yours.
Getting past the labels and challenging ourselves is always the way forward to a better future.
 
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Absolutely.
And it is great to hear that you are also getting therapy, because, it all starts there. But I think even a therapist would have to agree that this is a logical step for helping to deal with it, if they could take the legality out of the assessment.

What you describe is much like a phobia. And most therapists at some point turn to exposure therapy to help one overcome a phobia. A full on, real world like, social interaction experience with an SP is exactly that. Exposure therapy. The difference being that it is more controlled to ensure it will go in the direction of intimacy you need it to, in order to get the exposure you require.
When you are comfortable, you can then attempt the social exercise with civilians and not SPs, so that if the scenario does lead to intimacy, you will have the built up comfort level to go with it.
Lots of anxiety across the board, doing everything I can to work on it. I may have drawn a bad card earlier in life, but it's my responsibility to make the best of it.
 

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I absolutely think if you're level headed, realistic and are able to set good boundaries with yourself and others, this hobby can really help many men figure shit out.
I'm really happy to hear you've had such a revolutionary impact on your life.

Growing is definitely best done while moving, and this was the medium you chose to keep moving.

Great work dude.
 
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