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Dong Joe

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Nov 16, 2003
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Hi all,

Just wondering if Android has caught up to apple yet, or vice versa? Whats android got??

Anyone know the specs on the new screen for the Ipad? Is it four times as much?
How fast is it, anything compare or have the same chipset?

Thanks nerds,
 
Dong Joe said:
Hi all,

Just wondering if Android has caught up to apple yet, or vice versa? Whats android got??

Anyone know the specs on the new screen for the Ipad? Is it four times as much?
How fast is it, anything compare or have the same chipset?

Thanks nerds,
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Yes, the better tablet IMO has been available for a few months now. the new iPad just released today matches it in some ways, exceeds slightly in others but definitely fails to prove it's 4x better results, for which Apple were unable to substantiate in any way.

Gizmodo released a series of tests today which show the iPad ain't all that it claims to be....

iPad Test Notes: Speed (Versus Tegra 3)

Overall Winner: ???

Sorry to disappoint you, but there was no clear winner here. Results seem to indicate that for blasting through graphics, the GPU (graphics processing unit) in the iPad's A5X is faster. But for your average day-to-day usage, the CPU on Transformer Prime takes it. I'd love to see a good, cross-platform CPU test emerge, but until then, we'll just have to listen to nerds screaming at each other. Get your earplugs ready.
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As I pointed out the Asus Transformer Prime has been available for a few months now and is CLEARLY not outclassed by the new iPad. not only that but the Transformer Prime is about to release a new model with some nice improvements over what they have released thus far, including much higher resolution.

for power users there is no choice between the 2, the Asus wins hands down. For those that are already in the Apple ecosystem and prefer to leave things as they are(no customization etc) and just want it to "just work" the iPad is an excellent choice...it's what I would recommend to my mother perhaps, but not my friends.

Apple is now just catching up to the top tier Android tablets, but are about to fall below the curve again as new Androids are released and Apple wait for another year to refresh the current iPad.
 
Wins hands down? Where does it even say that? In the tests"

SunSpider - it's a tie
BrowserMark - the Asus is 7.2% faster but as the article states, it depends on the browser.
GLBenchmark - iPad wins (article says "solidly")
Subjective Speed Tests - it's a tie
Overall Winner - ???

Please stop reading more into something than there really is.
 
Whatever you get I'm sure you'll be happy with.


Don't fall into this technical crap you read on here. I do it shut OTB up with his incessant crap about how incredibly incredible apple is(N'T) ...as he claims.
They're all good and all do the same thing. BUT as b4u just stated, a new batch of Android tablets are coming out and will no doubt blow apple and steve jobs in his grave.
If you're a "must have it now mode" stick with Asus, Samsung or apple if you must, but make sure you do your homework.
check http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ I love her reviews and she seems to be unbiased and is quite sensible in her reviews as well.

But it is refreshing to see that you're open to other things and not falling for marketing overhype.
 
Dong Joe said:
Hi all,

Just wondering if Android has caught up to apple yet, or vice versa? Whats android got??

Anyone know the specs on the new screen for the Ipad? Is it four times as much?
How fast is it, anything compare or have the same chipset?

Thanks nerds,
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Do your homework. It's all about your needs. iPad might be the better fit. Android might be.

Head over to Future Shop, Best Buy and the Apple Store.

Play with both products extensively. Read reviews on both Apple and Android websites critically. Then make your decision.
 
Hardware it's reasonably close (except for display) but ecosystem it's not even close.

OTB
 
onthebottom said:
Hardware it's reasonably close (except for display) but ecosystem it's not even close.

OTB
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ECOSYSTEM, SMECKOSYSTEM ....FFS!!!

There you go again with your one trick pony, $829 ECOSYSTEM poppycock!....:rolleyes:
 
Hi Dong,

I don't know what your specific needs are. There are advantage to both systems. Hardware wise I'm not up to date on the latest stuff. I use a xoom and if I broke it today and I would buy the same again because it does everything and is now cheap because it's a year old. The screens on many of the tablets are already awesome and the better screens are nice but I wouldn't use them as deal breakers myself. Here's an article I read that made me laugh about the new ipad:

http://gizmodo.com/5894094/we-gave-people-an-ipad-2-told-them-it-was-the-new-ipad-and-they-loved-it

As bottom said hardware wise they are all pretty similar. I'm not sure what he means about the ecosystem of ipad being far ahead. If he's talking about apps, that's not really true (there's more apps to be sure, but the important apps are almost always available for android and apple). I dare say there are ipad specific apps that aren't available on android so if you need them, then the choice is obvious. I can connect a PS3 gamepad to my xoom, attach my xoom to a TV with HDMI and use various emulators to play video games (nintendo, sega genesis, mame, etc). You definitely can't do that on an ipad.

So really it comes down to your needs. Buy what works for you and don't focus so much on either how cutting edge the specs are or how slick a marketing campaign. Like I said, I would buy a xoom again even though I know there's "better" hardware out there, but it doesn't so anything amazingly different to justify the extra $. Even if I were buying a ipad today, I may well take an ipad 2 over an ipad 3.
 
ray liotta said:
Someone likes to count their pennies. Cheap , cheap. :wink:
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LOL!!!
So pray tell mister Big Time Harry, how may of these pricey $829 iPuds did you get???.....:eyebrows:
 
Tangwhich said:
As bottom said hardware wise they are all pretty similar. I'm not sure what he means about the ecosystem of ipad being far ahead. If he's talking about apps, that's not really true (there's more apps to be sure, but the important apps are almost always available for android and apple).
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Is the iPad ecosystem that far ahead of the rest? Well, yes, that's true and you can read all about it here:

Do Android tablet apps really suck? Yes. Yes, they do. We take a close look, and provide examples.
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iPad gets the award because its apps are generally better than the apps available for Android tablets
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Finding tablet-oriented apps for Android is a hunt, a chore, and a grind.
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competing tablets have apps that usually suck. Not all of them suck. CNN's Android tablet app is gorgeous. But most of them do.
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Android tablets' problem isn't app availability but app quality
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Android games don't generally suck when played on Android tablets. There are just fewer of them.
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until applications from major brands come out in not only similar number, but similar quality for Android tablets, it'll be hard for one of them to beat the iPad to our top award
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401676,00.asp
 
Tangwhich said:
Here's an article I read that made me laugh about the new iPad:

http://gizmodo.com/5894094/we-gave-people-an-ipad-2-told-them-it-was-the-new-ipad-and-they-loved-it
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To me that says most people (read non-geeks) don't care about specs (OMG!!! The iPhone 4S only has 512MB of RAM, SUXX0R!!!! LOLOLZ) just as long as its a product they think is best for their needs.


I'm not sure what he means about the ecosystem of ipad being far ahead.
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Two things.

1) There's not a lot of "universal" apps for Android. I see many apps running on Android tablets as stretched out smartphone apps.

2) App discovery and search blows on the Android Market. Google really needs to improve here.

If he's talking about apps, that's not really true (there's more apps to be sure, but the important apps are almost always available for android and apple).
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I disagree. ;)

For example, I'm a heavy user of RSS. I haven't found an app that runs circles around Reeder for iOS. I wish there was. And there's other apps on iOS that provide excellent user experience due to focus on design and execution.

Android definitely has some examples, too. But either due to lack of incentives (its more difficult monetize apps on Android) or poor app discovery/search, I haven't found many.

So really it comes down to your needs. Buy what works for you and don't focus so much on either how cutting edge the specs are or how slick a marketing campaign.
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1+. That's what OP needs to do.
 
Tangwhich said:
I'm not sure what he means about the ecosystem of ipad being far ahead.
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He's talking about content:

- movies
- music
- apps (where there is massive innovation)
- books
- magazines
- podcasts
- cloud distribution of all of this
- universally available across multiple platforms (phones, tablets, TV, computer)
- with a single ID, with nearly no administration, configuration, viruses
- all upgradable

OTB
 
onthebottom said:
He's talking about content:

- movies
- music
- apps (where there is massive innovation)
- books
- magazines
- podcasts
- cloud distribution of all of this
- universally available across multiple platforms (phones, tablets, TV, computer)
- with a single ID, with nearly no administration, configuration, viruses
- all upgradable
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Funny thing.... I do that all and more with Linux and the only difference is with Linux it's all FREE!....:cool:
 
onthebottom said:
He's talking about content:

- movies
- music
- apps (where there is massive innovation)
- books
- magazines
- podcasts
- cloud distribution of all of this
- universally available across multiple platforms (phones, tablets, TV, computer)
- with a single ID, with nearly no administration, configuration, viruses
- all upgradable
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Hmm.. that could well be a list for my xoom...
 
danibbler said:
Is the iPad ecosystem that far ahead of the rest? Well, yes, that's true and you can read all about it here:
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Well he's entitled to his opinion. I've used both and I find android to be just as satisfactory. More so actually because I use it for a lot of the emulators and viewing video files.
I certainly give the ipad an edge for quantity of apps, perhaps in some cases with apps that are a bit better, but it's not a huge one and the gap is constantly closing.
 
WoodPeckr said:
LOL!!!
So pray tell mister Big Time Harry, how may of these pricey $829 iPuds did you get???.....:eyebrows:
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Why would I buy more than one??
You're referring to the highest priced unit when you mention that price.
One only needs the wifi iPad.
That price is what most people earn at the very least in a day. No biggie.
When you talk about GM cars do you refer to them as $100 thousand prices?
Anyway as I've said iPads are certainly not for everyone-only 100 million or so people have bought so far. Lol.
 
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