Andrew Prescott = Pierre Poutine?

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Actually, surprising as it may seem, Elections Canada does not care about election results and has no mandate to look into them. Elections Canada is 100% and only interest in whether the elections law was followed. If the fraud influenced the elections results that is a matter for the courts, and not for Elections Canada. Elections Canada has no power to change the results, even if it finds fraud. It hasn't even got a mandate to look into that sort of thing. All it can do is prosecute individuals for breaking elections law.
 

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whether the cons' foul play made a difference or not, the very-likely fact that the cons played dirty (well we already know they played dirty re. campaign budget) should be enough to make all of us (regardless of our political leanings) stand up and take notice.

Why can't people seem to see clearly beyond their political affiliations when stuff is obviously f'd. I lose respect for people's arguments when they try to defend parties to the death when the party these people are defending obviously did wrong.

I remember adscam - i had friends who worked for the Liberals at that time. Many Liberal supporters walked away despite that issue being nothing compared to the list of Conservative bs that's occurred just in the past few months. Yet Conservatives will support their party till their last breath - despite how ridiculous it looks from the other side....

argh
Remember the oerlikon helicopters scandal in Mulroney's first term. The press outside Quebec was all agog that someone in power would have been caught with his hands in the cookie jar. The Quebec press attitude was "shucks, you got caught. Better Luck next time."

Mulroney accepted a brown paper bag of cash. Is he sitting in jail while we sit on his Airbus'?

Harper could be caught buggering little boys (since his wife long ago gave up accepting his Reform spunk) and the Reform supporters here would not see anything wrong.

What I would like to see:
1. Absolutely no advertising between elections. Govt ads detailing programs would be highly controlled.
2. Ban on all personal attack ads. We are rapidly degenerating into Americans as the Reform party rolls out more and more Chretien crooked mouth type ads
3. Outlaw robocall of all types. All calls must be made from unblocked phones. I worked as an election volunteer and spent election day personal calling voters. It is not an easy thing to do.
 

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What I would like to see:
1. Absolutely no advertising between elections. Govt ads detailing programs would be highly controlled.
2. Ban on all personal attack ads. We are rapidly degenerating into Americans as the Reform party rolls out more and more Chretien crooked mouth type ads
3. Outlaw robocall of all types. All calls must be made from unblocked phones. I worked as an election volunteer and spent election day personal calling voters. It is not an easy thing to do.
Those are all good ideas towards remedying an erosion of our democracy.
 

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Yes he did say it was serious. Never said he didn't say that. He also said that it had no impact of the outcome of the election. Check it out. If you want me to explain the difference to you between the two statements let me know as you obviously didn't comprehend it the first time around. I had you pegged above groggy in comprehension ability. Obviously I was wrong.
Actually if you don't understand the difference it's going to make it seriously difficult to have an intelligent conversation of any complexity with you whatsoever in the future. Let's try this.....to continue on with your killing analogies which by some strange twist you seem to understand....... If an individual soldier gets killed its serious but in itself does not impact the outcome of the war.

Like most biased people you only hear what you want to hear and ignore the inconvenient facts.




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so if I point a gun at Harper and pull the trigger, but miss....it's all ok because I didn't hurt anyone....I get your logic now.

If The conservatives had a pattern of fraudulent robocalling, it is a serious offence, regardless of whether it impacted the election outcome.
 

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so if I point a gun at Harper and pull the trigger, but miss....it's all ok because I didn't hurt anyone....I get your logic now.
It would not be OK but you would only be guilty of attempted murder which is a lessor offence than Murder. The justification for attempted murder being less serious is that less harm has been done in that no one died. I think that was Train's basic point.
 

groggy

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It would not be OK but you would only be guilty of attempted murder which is a lessor offence than Murder. The justification for attempted murder being less serious is that less harm has been done in that no one died. I think that was Train's basic point.
Its still fraud, win or lose.
So now we have Saanich Island.
Robocall fraud, which goes to the top of the party (who deleted the database entries?)
Two books for the F-35
Two books for Fantino's election
In and Out scandal
Bev Oda, lying and staying in power, trying to get the people to pay for her lavish upgrades.

How can you trust that party anymore?
 

groggy

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There are rumours out now that a blogger has the conservative government's emails from 2006 to present, including Blackberry's.

According to them, Senator Findley orchestrated the whole illegal robocall campaign, and there are emails between RMG and Racknine and him to prove it.
As well as bribery in the PMO.....


If this is all true it will come out in the next week or two and Harper and his gang are finished.
Interesting.
 
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