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Anbarandy and those waiting for Olivia Chow miracle are running out of time

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If she doesn't rally the anti-Rob Ford voters to her side by the end of the month, her campaign is probably just an empty ritual

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha...ow_miracle_are_running_out_of_time_james.html

Olivia Chow is in trouble. The candidate for mayor is not connecting with voters. Her campaign appears disjointed and out of ideas that inspire. The entire enterprise is out of steam, crumbling just when it must soar.

That’s the unvarnished and painful truth for those who view Chow as the Ford Buster, someone with great promise; the first non-white mayor in Toronto’s history (W. P. Hubbard’s fill-in stint notwithstanding); the first woman mayor since amalgamation; a return to urban sanity after a failed experiment with the brutish bumpkins from the bad side of Etobicoke.

A reasonable calculation concludes it will take a miracle to salvage an unimaginative, lacklustre seven-month campaign seven weeks from voting day.

As Toronto turns its attention to the contest for mayor, post-Labour Day as anticipated, desperation has replaced smug confidence among the supporters of the candidate who led the polls for some six months.

More than one poll now positions Chow in third place among decided voters (and all eligible voters), trailing John Tory and incumbent bad boy Rob Ford (Open Rob Ford’s policard).

If the pollsters are right when they report that about two in three citizens want Ford excised from Toronto’s civic life and consciousness (they say they would not vote Ford under any circumstances), then a good number have begun looking at someone other than Chow for rescue.

That may explain two numbers in the recent Nanos poll. Tory is at 42 per cent among decided voters. And 17 per cent of eligible voters are undecided. Add those voter intents to the pressing desire to stop Ford and the trend away from Chow is difficult to reverse.

If Chow has anything left, now is the time to unleash it. Likely, it is already too late. In desperation football language that Ford likes to use, it’s Hail Mary time.

At the height of Thursday’s spirited and entertaining mayoral debate at the Toronto Hilton — John Tory slicing and dicing Rob Ford to the delight of the Toronto Region Board of Trade members — Chow appeared outclassed, overmatched, sidelined. David Soknacki, a brave candidate with residual spunk, at least tried to lob haymakers, even if his jabs fell harmlessly. Chow was just . . . there.

If there is a reset or a reboot button, hit it now, please!

Come next week, Soknacki and others on the long list of candidates will have to decide if they will take their names off the ballot. Deadline is Sept. 12. The thinking is Soknacki will drop out. Chow will stay in the race — but another week like the past four weeks and her candidacy will be maintained out of respect, just a courtesy, to the hardcore supporters who are in the “Chow or nobody” category.

Seven weeks is an eternity in politics, you say, and that is correct on several levels. For instance, there is a lot of time for front-runner Tory to unveil platform planks that so upset the populace that they turn against him. Or he might go into a shell and appear as uninspiring and boring — leaving the door open for a resurgence.

But that is unlikely.

In fact, Tory has found his stride. To see him at the board of trade debate was to witness a transformed candidate — comfortable, funny, aggressive, toying with Ford like a skilled boxer setting up a punch-drunk brawler before the late-round knockout.

To the majority who say they want Ford gone, Tory has presented himself as the viable alternative. Chow must now summon all the clichés to keep hope alive: “It ain’t over till it’s over.” The “only poll that matters is on Oct. 27.”

Is there time for one more twist and turn? Conventional wisdom says, not after Sept. 30. By then, minds are made up. Televised debates on Oct. 16 and 22 provide last-minute hope. But it’s not comforting to depend on an opponent’s catastrophic failure. Better to create one’s own buzz and breaks.

During this last leg, as the field narrows even further, Tory can expect an avalanche of attacks and heightened scrutiny. Is he an elitist or the man who’s spent his life bringing people together? Can he build city council into an engine that will tackle the transportation challenge of a generation? Would he engage all sectors — listen to those who have been muted, learn from those who would teach, empower those waiting to unleash their skills and talent?

Chow descent has been Tory’s ascent. We always knew it could only be one or the other. The sense is a Ford-fatigued Toronto will choose relief sooner rather than later.


Anbarandy, I heard there is a paid director opening in Olivia Chow Campaign War Room why don't go over and give your idol a hand?
 

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Marcus Gee in the Globe and Matt Gurney in the Post have also written about Chow's struggles.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com//new...-traction/article20377137/#dashboard/follows/

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/09/03/matt-gurney-chow-campaign-comes-back-down-to-reality/

Perhaps Chow was a little too guilty of running a front-runner's campaign, but it does seem the utter vacuousness of her responses to issues has caught up with her. On many policy files, it has felt like her response has been to talk about how much she likes seeing smiles on the children's faces.

I'm certainly not opposed to smiling children, but I suspect voters are looking for a bit more substance.

It's definitely amusing that Chow has rebranded herself as the underdog.
 

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Olivia got bad advice.

She does not know Toronto. Fact that she lived here her adult life, that is surprising, but other than her home turf, and her union friends, and her elitist friends, she does not know Toronto.

Everyone will vote for her in her home ward or riding. No one will vote for her outside of it.
 

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Olivia got bad advice.

She does not know Toronto. Fact that she lived here her adult life, that is surprising, but other than her home turf, and her union friends, and her elitist friends, she does not know Toronto.

Everyone will vote for her in her home ward or riding. No one will vote for her outside of it.
Not even the Chinese in Scarborough? Don't Chinese in Scarborough love waiting outdoor for LRT?
 

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Not even the Chinese in Scarborough? Don't Chinese in Scarborough love waiting outdoor for LRT?
You haven't been keeping up. They're now waiting years and years longer for a subway. That isn't even planned yet, never mind funded.

If it hadn't been for Rob and his, "Gimme a subway" chats with McG they'd be watching the LRT tracks being laid and the platforms poured right now to be up and running for the Games in 2015.

But keep your fingers crossed. The Stintz Subway may be a line on a funding map by then. Or not; who can say.

One thing we can say for certain: Rob never got his Line past a Council meeting.
 

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i agree she got bad advice. she's a nice lady who appears to have no plan about anything. and i doubt if the well-educated chinese vote on ethnic lines. and would really doubt if any of them are waiting for public transit. hahaha
 

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Did not think this deserved a new thread, If anyone cares, Sarah Thomson drops out of mayoral race

Will Chow be next?
Ford needs Chow to stay in race to split the anti votes.

Without Chow the 60% solid anti-ford vote will go to Tory.

With Chow still in the 60% anti votes might split between 35 to 40% for Tory and 20 to 25% for Chow. Ford will move up from his current 28 - 31% polling support to a higher ground let say 35% and more when Tory is unable to defend his ignoring Jane and Finch, lack of real DRL planning and closer scrutiny at his Smart Track including the all important whether Metrolink will give up the control and the controversies arise on Eglinton line from Mt Dennis to Airport Corporation Centre.

When Ford and Tory both enjoy or being forced to enjoy 35 to 40% voter support the race will be very interesting the next 2 months.
 

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Ford needs Chow to stay in race to split the anti votes.
I don't think she really will. I bet there are a LOT of people like me who will vote for whichever candidate is most likely to beat Ford.

Right now I would vote Tory. If Chow is ahead of him in the polls b Oct 27, I will vote Chow.
 

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I don't think she really will. I bet there are a LOT of people like me who will vote for whichever candidate is most likely to beat Ford.

Right now I would vote Tory. If Chow is ahead of him in the polls b Oct 27, I will vote Chow.
I think she is staying. She has been fighting to stay and she has been throwing everything including kitchen sink at Tory but not so much at Ford.
 

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I always wondered why Chow would leave a cushy job of MP to run for mayor. I mean the perks and pension of all else of being an MP, why give that all up for the shittiest job in Canada.
 

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I always wondered why Chow would leave a cushy job of MP to run for mayor. I mean the perks and pension of all else of being an MP, why give that all up for the shittiest job in Canada.
She was being shuffled to the back by Munclair who wants to put his own stamp on the party IMO.

Also there were so many clamoring for her at the time I'm sure ego came into play.

I think she is more comfortable in local civic politics as well.

As for person she qualified for hers and she also get Jack's as well as a spouse.
 

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Did not think this deserved a new thread, If anyone cares.
I don't think it matters. Thomson's support wasn't even on the radar.

Chow must be facing a lot of pressure to drop out, particularly from the Anyone But Ford crowd.
 

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I don't think it matters. Thomson's support wasn't even on the radar.

Chow must be facing a lot of pressure to drop out, particularly from the Anyone But Ford crowd.
I don't think anyone is really calling for it yet, but its an 800 pound gorrilla waiting outside. I actually doubt she will. Too many will be saying stay in her circle. She does have money backing too.

7 weekd can be an eternity in politics. Anything can happen.

But I'm standing by my prediction of low to mid 40's for Tory. High 20's Ford. Low 20's Chow.
 

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And then there were three.

CP24 is reporting that David Soknacki has dropped out. He will formally withdraw on Wednesday.

I'm thinking this will be good news for Tory, although any increase in the polls may not be outside the margin of error.
 

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I always wondered why Chow would leave a cushy job of MP to run for mayor. I mean the perks and pension of all else of being an MP, why give that all up for the shittiest job in Canada.
Always make me wonder how many MP pension cheques Chow receives every month? Just one? Or two, one for herself and one for Jack Lapton?

Financially she was looking at the salary and the prestige being the Mayor of Toronto (way back then the job was in her pocket) plus the pension or two from Ottawa. Not bad.
 

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Always make me wonder how many MP pension cheques Chow receives every month? Just one? Or two, one for herself and one for Jack Lapton?

Financially she was looking at the salary and the prestige being the Mayor of Toronto (way back then the job was in her pocket) plus the pension or two from Ottawa. Not bad.
She gets I believe about 36,000 from Jack's as a widow plus whatever she accrued. I think I remember hers amounted to about 25,000 range.
 

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She gets I believe about 36,000 from Jack's as a widow plus whatever she accrued. I think I remember hers amounted to about 25,000 range.
Those numbers sound small. Guess you got them from reliable sources? I understand Jack taught at Ryerson's for a while so wonder Olivia got widow pension from there too?
 
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