An Inconvenient Truth...

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I know this should be in the movie section, but this is important.

Smart Politician= oxymoron!

Everyone has probably heard this saying before. Yeah, it makes us laugh. George W. Bush comes to mind.
However, this could not be further from the truth when writing about this film and Al Gore. After watching this documentary, I have a new appreciation for what Al is trying to accomplish, I really do!
The hot topic right now, probably on every corner of the planet is the weather. Not just here in Canada, where we are experiencing the warmest winter on record. But in Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa and the Poles. People, what we are doing to this planet is a travesty. Do we want to leave the world to future generations in this state? If we do, our own geneaology will surely end in a couple of generations. I am not sure that anyone, unless you are in the fossil fuel business, could not become extremely concerned with what is happening. Scientist are warning us of the shifts in nature and how we are distroying this ecological wonder. It is time we all do our part to help change the course. It starts small, but with momentum we can get the message out. Please, if you haven't watched the film, go out and rent it. Then, like we are doing at work, tell all your friends and family to watch it. It starts small, but throught he power of word of mouth the whole world will be talking about this problem in a short period of time. I highly recommend this movie.
 
To each his own.
 
The sky is falling!!

We went through this in the 70's when we had a cold spell...Ice age was imminent...

Gore should stick to hunting down Bear-Man-Pig
 
Chivas Regal said:
People, what we are doing to this planet is a travesty. Do we want to leave the world to future generations in this state?

Thanks CR for helping to get the word out. This may well be the single most urgent issue facing the planet. Al Gore's film is an eye opener. I recommend it to anyone who cares about the future of the planet.

I was watching a football game last week and the announcers were doing their idle chit chat before the game, which was in Chicago. The announcer was commenting on the unseasonably warm temperatures and said, "Well, I don't know if global warming is myth or reality, but these temperatures"...etc. etc. Does this guy live on the same planet or what? There is no myth. It is reality. No reputable scientist disputes the reality of global warming. The only debate is about how quickly it is happening and how irreversible it is. But sadly, ignorant people in the media refuse to take the issue seriously.

Watch "The Inconvenient Truth" if you have any doubt about global warming. And do something. Don't be a dinosaur.
 
Mao Tse Tongue said:
The CO2 levels in the Antarctic ice shield are the highest in 800,000 years! Will we wait until Manhattan is underwater and Canada's favourite sport is water hockey before you fossils come around? :rolleyes:




Wasn't Manhattan once under water???????????

Why is it called Greenland????????????

The Finger Lakes were formed by a glacier. What happened to the ice???????

Why did Al Gore divest himself from the Moral Majority????
 
I watched this, I was fairly impressed for a documentary.
Yeah we have issues with the planet.
Thats why ontario is the new florida...

I'm sure 50 years ago ontario would get 6-10 feet of snow each winter (well, Just outside of toronto) We get what? maybe 2 inches now?

Yup, I agree its getting warmer. Though, I think i'm safe i live on a VERY big hill at least 20 miles from Lake ontario ....

C.
 
Chuyo said:
I watched this, I was fairly impressed for a documentary.
Yeah we have issues with the planet.
Thats why ontario is the new florida...

I'm sure 50 years ago ontario would get 6-10 feet of snow each winter (well, Just outside of toronto) We get what? maybe 2 inches now?

Yup, I agree its getting warmer. Though, I think i'm safe i live on a VERY big hill at least 20 miles from Lake ontario ....

C.

What are you doing to prevent this thing that worries you???????

Do you walk to work????????

do you only work when natural light permits???????

Do you eat only raw food????
 
Heyyyy, AngrySmurf, you're back...lol...jk...welcome back :)
 
Thanks Cob

Good to be back
 
It's not uncertain at all.
The VAST MAJORITY of scientists disagree with your belief.
Yes, it really is that simple.
Over and out.
 
Ranger68 said:
It's not uncertain at all.
The VAST MAJORITY of scientists disagree with your belief.
Yes, it really is that simple.
Over and out.

Were it as simple as you present it you would have answers to my questions. Fact is the earth has gone through many warming and cooling cycles even without us.
 
What are you doing to prevent this thing that worries you???????

Do you walk to work????????

do you only work when natural light permits???????

Do you eat only raw food????

Are you serious???

Maybe we should all drive cars that run on granola.

I am not saying that it's NOT getting warmer, but I believe that it's part of the natural cycle of the planet. We have very little (if anything) to do with it.
 
papasmerf said:
Were it as simple as you present it you would have answers to my questions. Fact is the earth has gone through many warming and cooling cycles even without us.
What do your questions have to do with your second sentence?
Nothing.
Nobody denies that the earth goes through heating and cooling cycles. This is a straw man.

Here is the only fact you need to know: the vast majority of scientists think that human beings are driving the warming of the earth to unprecedented levels.

That's all.

Let me know if you disagree with the vast majority of the scientists.
 
Ranger68 said:
What do your questions have to do with your second sentence?
Nothing.

Here is the only fact you need to know: the vast majority of scientists think that human beings are driving the warming of the earth to unprecedented levels.

That's all.

Let me know if you disagree with the vast majority of the scientists.
Ranger, just because you keep saying does not make it fact.

Why isn't the vast majority of New York State still under ice???
 
I'll answer your question, and then you answer mine.
(Because maybe you really just don't understand the underlying science. You should watch the film.)
The glaciers retreated because the earth left the ice age. It entered a warming cycle.

Now, most scientists concur that the CURRENT warming cycle is being driven to *unprecedented* and *dangerous* levels due to human contributions.

Do you disagree with the majority of the planet's scientists? (???????? - I added a few question marks so you'd recognize my question ;) )
 
Ranger68 said:
I'll answer your question, and then you answer mine.
(Because maybe you really just don't understand the underlying science. You should watch the film.)
The glaciers retreated because the earth left the ice age. It entered a warming cycle.

Now, most scientists concur that the CURRENT warming cycle is being driven to *unprecedented* and *dangerous* levels due to human contributions.

Do you disagree with the majority of the planet's scientists? (???????? - I added a few question marks so you'd recognize my question ;) )


When you say vast majority you indicate that many are of the opposite opinion. I just happen to agree with them. In the world of science you are backing people making a guess based on facts they sought out to back their guess. Reality is the earth will warm and cool. We are guests here and the master of it.
 
Right.
So, you disagree with the VAST MAJORITY of the planet's scientists. (Despite *clearly* not having a clue about the science - as evidenced by your repeated, sophomoric questions.) You really don't have a CLUE about "reality".
I get it.
Just so we're all clear.
Your call, sparky.
 
Chivas Regal said:
Smart Politician= oxymoron!

Some, if not most, politicians (who, btw, tend to be either lawyers or major corporate businessmen) are much smarter than people give them credit for. Savvy might be a better word though.

Politicians, for the most part, act for one reason and one reason alone: to stay elected and to get re-elected. That means keeping YOU, the voter, happy. And that means NOT raising your taxes, which is what is needed to pay for all the environmental action people "claim" to want. That is, they want it until they have to pay for it and then it's, "Fuck you for raising my taxes, I'm voting for the other guy who is going to give me a tax CUT!!!"

And on and on the cycle goes. If you're looking for someone to blame, you need only look in the mirror.

Politicians are reflections of society and it's society that is the problem. Yet society (desperately) wants someone else to blame. That's where politicians come in.
 
Ranger68 said:
Right.
So, you disagree with the VAST MAJORITY of the planet's scientists. (Despite *clearly* not having a clue about the science - as evidenced by your repeated, sophomoric questions.) You really don't have a CLUE about "reality".
I get it.
Just so we're all clear.
Your call, sparky.

my questions are phrased to not show linguistic ability but rather clear questions. Here is an easy one for you. Does the de-forestation of the world have any effect on the CO2 levels??????